An interesting sample of AC defectors?
Mar 15, 2013, 8:48 pm
#16
Join Date: Sep 2009
Programs: AC SE; SPG Plat, Fairmont Plat
Posts: 251
I'm halfway there. Still doing 100k with AC, TATL mostly, but the second 100 which used to go to them has moved to cathay/OW. Qatar joining OW will be a game changer for me in Montreal, as it is the easiest, and by far most pleasant way for me to get to Asia without travelling through toronto or vancouver.
Mar 15, 2013, 8:55 pm
#17
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Join Date: May 1998
Location: Vancouver, Canada
Posts: 6,222
'Course the instant the economy tips and loads/profits start to decline, they will all in unison proclaim how it's all the economy's fault.
Mar 15, 2013, 8:56 pm
#19
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: YYZ
Programs: AC E50K (*Gold), DL, CZ
Posts: 1,252
Thought about jumping, but decided to use my Star Gold 50K status recently to board in UA's Group 2. Got empty overhead bins everytime ^.
I'll stay with Altitude/Aeroplan, but do most of the flying with UA, since we get free Club access and my Nexus card helped bypass them March Break lines departing from/arriving at YYZ. Flying UA or AC out of YYZ doesn't really matter to me; whatever's cheaper, since I travel only for vacations.
I'll stay with Altitude/Aeroplan, but do most of the flying with UA, since we get free Club access and my Nexus card helped bypass them March Break lines departing from/arriving at YYZ. Flying UA or AC out of YYZ doesn't really matter to me; whatever's cheaper, since I travel only for vacations.
Mar 15, 2013, 9:44 pm
#20
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: YYZ
Programs: AC SE MM, Bonvoy Plat, Hilton G,Nexus, Amex MR Plat,IHG Plat
Posts: 4,425
I have thought of it but stayed with AC for one year as a lowly E35. So far no upg cleared over the last six months. Company pays for Flex in NA and more importantly half my flights are YYZ-YVR. I already have Nexus and Amex Plat and AA Gold and am laying the steps for a defection. I moved my CC from Aeroplan to Amex Plat. If I dont hit E50 this year I will likely move as there is not much benefit to being E35 (no Star Gold). No chance of hitting E75. On TATL I earn nothing while flying on vacation on LH. I have flown UA before and upg on my own dime. So the choice will be AA or MP.
I believe AC likes 2 types of customers - the low end once or twice a year flyer with no benefits/status (think Rouge or the new 77) or the high end SE or J customer. Everyone else is disposable specially if they fly within Canada.
I believe AC likes 2 types of customers - the low end once or twice a year flyer with no benefits/status (think Rouge or the new 77) or the high end SE or J customer. Everyone else is disposable specially if they fly within Canada.
Mar 15, 2013, 9:58 pm
#21
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Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Denver • DEN-APA
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Mar 16, 2013, 1:23 am
#23
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: YXU, ON Canada
Programs: AC LT E50K; AC*MM; SPG LT Gold
Posts: 4,665
This is probably my last year as SE, but I'm cutting back on my non-domestic AC flights and flyimng other * carriers. Right now I'm at ZRH on my way to HKG on LX. Apart from the bizarre requirement that you need a cell phone to get a text message to log in to the wi-fi, I'm very pleased with LX. Next time it will likely be TK.
Mar 16, 2013, 2:38 am
#24
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Location: Vancouver, Canada
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Are you sure you weren't on the previous flight?
Originally Posted by acysb87
On the shuttle bus this am from hotel to SFO. A bunch of flight attendants from various airlines,including AA. The AA bunch were vocal about routes,distances to commute for work and passengers on board.
One AA attendant quipped she told a recent pax that" we are here for your safety,we do not have to like you."
Someone answered back, 'Remind me why I do not fly AA?"
^
Someone else took a quick dig as well at the FAs
So I guess that my sample of 2 people taking shots at AA FAs would mean 20% .......
BTW , my AC flights today were on-time,100% capacity from SFO.
One AA attendant quipped she told a recent pax that" we are here for your safety,we do not have to like you."
Someone answered back, 'Remind me why I do not fly AA?"
^Someone else took a quick dig as well at the FAs
So I guess that my sample of 2 people taking shots at AA FAs would mean 20% .......
BTW , my AC flights today were on-time,100% capacity from SFO.
Mar 16, 2013, 2:48 am
#25
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: YYZ
Posts: 286
I'm not going to make SE next year. Not even sure about 50K at this point.
I moved the majority of my premium business to EY & EK. They simply offer prices that LH+AC can't touch. The one-way first class from CMB to NA is especially delicious.
I moved the majority of my premium business to EY & EK. They simply offer prices that LH+AC can't touch. The one-way first class from CMB to NA is especially delicious.
Mar 16, 2013, 5:13 am
#26
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Join Date: Feb 2000
Posts: 12,068
BTW, just bought a rail pass for intra Europe travel in April. Bought 1st class,to give it a try. So much easier than flying/driving there.Driving not the issue,parking the car in a hard to find parking spot is the problem
Mar 16, 2013, 8:21 am
#27
Join Date: Feb 2006
Programs: various
Posts: 623
Last year I did my annual YYZ-Australia using any star alliance except AC, a bit long but really enjoyed the change.
Next month I'll be flying BA TATL for the first time in almost 20 years......see how that goes. Maybe a switch to OW....who knows.
Next month I'll be flying BA TATL for the first time in almost 20 years......see how that goes. Maybe a switch to OW....who knows.
Mar 16, 2013, 9:39 am
#28
Join Date: Dec 2002
Posts: 8,002
Of the 16 people in the full front cabin, I counted three who sported not only AA ExecPlat tags but the new AC 75KElite tags. Counting me, that would represent 1/4 of those on the flight who have obviously decided it was better to give AA their money to fly to the US than AC.
Probably a typical Canadian who will trash AC even if it's not the truth.
Mar 16, 2013, 9:45 am
#29
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Mar 16, 2013, 10:46 am
#30
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: YYJ
Programs: 50K
Posts: 307
My situation is a bit different. Our group is on paid J and almost 95% TPAC/TATL or YYZ.
Kind of obvious to people here but when you are paid J, status is kind of irrelevant. This means we can fly whatever carrier we like while taking in to account fare.
What has happened over the past year is that far more of our flights have been on CX, QR, EK, LH, etc.
We really used to be severely loyal to AC...but we've been burned time and time again by the executive...so we gave up caring.
Kind of obvious to people here but when you are paid J, status is kind of irrelevant. This means we can fly whatever carrier we like while taking in to account fare.
What has happened over the past year is that far more of our flights have been on CX, QR, EK, LH, etc.
We really used to be severely loyal to AC...but we've been burned time and time again by the executive...so we gave up caring.