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Flights operated by Air Canada rouge
NOTE: Rouge Wifi information can be found here
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/air-c...l#post28448087
Dates in brackets indicate planned start of rouge service (either as a new route or replacing mainline service). ML placed before a date indicates the date that service is reverting to mainline.
All Airbus A319/A321 service is in the new Premium Rouge configuration with 2x2J seats. All other routes are Boeing 767-300ER aircraft in a 24J/258Y layout.
Airport codes in blue indicate that these routes are Boeing 767-300ER aircraft for all services.
Airport codes in red indicate that these routes are split between Boeing 767-300ER and Airbus services.
Airport codes in black indicate that these routes are Airbus aircraft for all services.
Routes are organized based on the established rouge bases of YYZ, YUL, YYC, and YVR
*Seasonal Summer Service
YYZ
Canada
YQT YQY YXX YLW YYG (02MAY-OCT) YDF YQB YQM (01MAY19) YFC (01JUL19)
USA
MCO TPA LAS FLL HNL SRQ RSW SAN PHX MIA PSP (14DEC16)
Mexico
CUN PVR SJD
Caribbean
KIN NAS LIR GND MBJ AZS CCC CUR HUX PUJ POP SKB SJO SXM LRM HOG SNU UVF VRA BGI (07JAN) POS (21DEC16)
Europe
ATH BCN EDI VCE MAN LIS PRG BUD GLA LGW
Central and South America
LIM BOG PTY
YUL
USA
LAS MCO FLL PBI TPA MIA
Mexico
CUN MEX PVR (18NOV16)
Caribbean
ZSA CCC HOG PUJ SNU PLS POP PAP NAS (17JAN) PTP
Europe
FCO ATH BCN NCE VCE
Central and South America
SJO (22DEC16)
Africa
CMN
YYC
Canada
YHZ* YHM (2016)
USA
LAS PHX (winter only - PHX AC Express in summer)
YVR
USA
LAS HNL OGG PHX PSP KOA SAN (02JUN)
Mexico
CUN PVR
Asia
KIX
Europe
DUB LGA KEF
What to Do If Your Flight Has Been Rouged According to the AC Rep "Air Canada Altitude": call AC Reservations, cancel and get a refund.
Air Canada rouge, a leisure airline
#7846
Join Date: May 2014
Location: YYJ/YYT
Programs: AC 75K (*G), NEXUS
Posts: 652
#7847
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: YXY
Posts: 3,506
I am trying to find non-rouge service to Orlando in July. Is AC1262 from YOW the only option? Or are there any other AC mainline or AC express flights to MCO?
TNX
TNX
#7848
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: May 2009
Location: FRA / YEG
Programs: AC Super Elite, Radisson Platinum, Accor Platinum
Posts: 11,874
I'd have to disagree with that. "Premium Rouge" on the 763 is nothing like NA J on AC ML or even "Premium Rouge" on the 319 / 321. The seat dimensions are closer to (preferred) Y than J, the overhead bins are tiny, the crew : pax ratio is poor and the overall experience is rather absymal IME.
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#7849
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Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: SFO
Programs: AC SE MM, BA Gold, SQ Silver, Bonvoy Tit LTG, Hyatt Glob, HH Diamond
Posts: 44,324
I'd have to disagree with that. "Premium Rouge" on the 763 is nothing like NA J on AC ML or even "Premium Rouge" on the 319 / 321. The seat dimensions are closer to (preferred) Y than J, the overhead bins are tiny, the crewax ratio is poor and the overall experience is rather absymal IME.
Crew ratio is the same on every flight.
#7850
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Join Date: Feb 2000
Posts: 12,068
I'd have to disagree with that. "Premium Rouge" on the 763 is nothing like NA J on AC ML or even "Premium Rouge" on the 319 / 321. The seat dimensions are closer to (preferred) Y than J, the overhead bins are tiny, the crewax ratio is poor and the overall experience is rather absymal IME.
#7852
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Join Date: May 2009
Location: FRA / YEG
Programs: AC Super Elite, Radisson Platinum, Accor Platinum
Posts: 11,874
It's admittedly been a while, but the last time I flew Rouge on the 763, there was only one dedicated FA in J servicing 24 pax. Compare that with the 12-14 J seats on most other AC narrowbodies, and it shouldn't be a surprise that service tends to be less impressive on the 763s (unless AC has recently upgraded the service / staff : pax ratio in J)
#7853
Join Date: May 2013
Location: YYT/YYC/TPE
Programs: AC SE, UA, National Exec Elite, Nexus, GE
Posts: 1,810
For the crew ratio to be the same (or similar) there would need to be two dedicating FAs servicing the "Premium Rouge" cabin on the 763. Is that the case?
It's admittedly been a while, but the last time I flew Rouge on the 763, there was only one dedicated FA in J servicing 24 pax. Compare that with the 12-14 J seats on most other AC narrowbodies, and it shouldn't be a surprise that service tends to be less impressive on the 763s (unless AC has recently upgraded the service / staff : pax ratio in J)
It's admittedly been a while, but the last time I flew Rouge on the 763, there was only one dedicated FA in J servicing 24 pax. Compare that with the 12-14 J seats on most other AC narrowbodies, and it shouldn't be a surprise that service tends to be less impressive on the 763s (unless AC has recently upgraded the service / staff : pax ratio in J)
#7854
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Moncton, NB, Canada
Programs: AC MM+
Posts: 197
On my Rouge B763 flights last month (South America), there were two FAs dedicated for the PY cabin. However, my beef with international Rouge flights is that usually, at time of check-in, I am amongst the very few passengers who actually pay for PY. When the flight closes, because the back is often oversold, FOTSGs get upgraded to the front cabin and then ask for free booze and chat all flight. I almost always needed to sleep with my noise-cancelling headphones on.
#7855
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: YYZ
Programs: AC 50K, Marriott Lifetime Platinum
Posts: 1,548
100% what happened on 1813 from CUN. was Premium cabin was booked 8/24, a few SE and myself SEM in the back. Flight boards, minutes after, Premium cabin fills with passengers that had GTE on their boarding passes. Absolutely unacceptable. Another reason to always go mainline or other carrier, NEVER Rouge.
Lazy GA is what this is.
#7856
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Halifax
Programs: AC SE100K, Marriott Lifetime Platinum Elite. NEXUS
Posts: 4,568
100% what happened on 1813 from CUN. was Premium cabin was booked 8/24, a few SE and myself SEM in the back. Flight boards, minutes after, Premium cabin fills with passengers that had GTE on their boarding passes. Absolutely unacceptable. Another reason to always go mainline or other carrier, NEVER Rouge.
#7857
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Moncton, NB, Canada
Programs: AC MM+
Posts: 197
Ok, contract ground crew is responsible for this. Who's responsible for the ground crew and which company did I have a contract with, Rouge. Rouge is looking the other way on this so I don't agree. You see very little of this on mainline, Jazz or Georgian. They know better and get slapped if caught being lazy when reported.
#7858
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Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: YVR
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Posts: 35,255
Ok, contract ground crew is responsible for this. Who's responsible for the ground crew and which company did I have a contract with, Rouge. Rouge is looking the other way on this so I don't agree. You see very little of this on mainline, Jazz or Georgian. They know better and get slapped if caught being lazy when reported.
Exploitation details can be heard at the YVR DO on April 6.
#7859
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Halifax
Programs: AC SE100K, Marriott Lifetime Platinum Elite. NEXUS
Posts: 4,568
Sorry, @mamau, ground staff is ground staff. Rouge tends to leaf outports, and less picky PAX, and thus less picky AC head office suits, but even DFW (which j can't imagine visiting unless you are getting paid) has the same less attentive GAs as the vacation destinations more typically served by Rouge.
#7860
Join Date: Sep 2012
Programs: AA plat, Hertz, gold , Bonvoy gold,IHGplat
Posts: 312
Flying Rouge International on 763. I know the IFE are not seatback. Silly question but anywhere on the plane are there GPS maps indicating plane location?