May 5, 2014, 8:21 pm
Last edit by: Arcanum
Flights operated by Air Canada rouge
NOTE: Rouge Wifi information can be found here
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/air-c...l#post28448087
Dates in brackets indicate planned start of rouge service (either as a new route or replacing mainline service). ML placed before a date indicates the date that service is reverting to mainline.
All Airbus A319/A321 service is in the new Premium Rouge configuration with 2x2J seats. All other routes are Boeing 767-300ER aircraft in a 24J/258Y layout.
Airport codes in blue indicate that these routes are Boeing 767-300ER aircraft for all services.
Airport codes in red indicate that these routes are split between Boeing 767-300ER and Airbus services.
Airport codes in black indicate that these routes are Airbus aircraft for all services.
Routes are organized based on the established rouge bases of YYZ, YUL, YYC, and YVR
*Seasonal Summer Service
YYZ
Canada
YQT YQY YXX YLW YYG (02MAY-OCT) YDF YQB YQM (01MAY19) YFC (01JUL19)
USA
MCO TPA LAS FLL HNL SRQ RSW SAN PHX MIA PSP (14DEC16)
Mexico
CUN PVR SJD
Caribbean
KIN NAS LIR GND MBJ AZS CCC CUR HUX PUJ POP SKB SJO SXM LRM HOG SNU UVF VRA BGI (07JAN) POS (21DEC16)
Europe
ATH BCN EDI VCE MAN LIS PRG BUD GLA LGW
Central and South America
LIM BOG PTY
YUL
USA
LAS MCO FLL PBI TPA MIA
Mexico
CUN MEX PVR (18NOV16)
Caribbean
ZSA CCC HOG PUJ SNU PLS POP PAP NAS (17JAN) PTP
Europe
FCO ATH BCN NCE VCE
Central and South America
SJO (22DEC16)
Africa
CMN
YYC
Canada
YHZ* YHM (2016)
USA
LAS PHX (winter only - PHX AC Express in summer)
YVR
USA
LAS HNL OGG PHX PSP KOA SAN (02JUN)
Mexico
CUN PVR
Asia
KIX
Europe
DUB LGA KEF
What to Do If Your Flight Has Been Rouged According to the AC Rep "Air Canada Altitude": call AC Reservations, cancel and get a refund.
Air Canada rouge, a leisure airline
Dec 15, 2018, 4:17 pm
#7771
Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 733
Thank you for the feedback guys. I've changed to 3A.
Yesterday I was the only one to have selected their seat in that cabin. Today I saw the only other seats taken were now 2A and 2K. Clearly bulkhead isn't the place to be in this case.
Yesterday I was the only one to have selected their seat in that cabin. Today I saw the only other seats taken were now 2A and 2K. Clearly bulkhead isn't the place to be in this case.
Dec 15, 2018, 8:55 pm
#7772
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Canada
Programs: Aeroplan E50/MM, HH gold, Nat Exec Elite, Kimpton Karma
Posts: 2,350
Another opinion — I always take row 1 on Rouge 319. I dislike people reclining back towards me and row one has room for my knees. Feels more spacious to me. I’ve had good luck with row 2 people responding affirmatively to my request to put something small under my seat for take off/landing.
Last edited by Bartolo; Dec 16, 2018 at 5:31 pm
Dec 16, 2018, 12:01 pm
#7773
Join Date: Sep 2011
Programs: Aeroplan Elite for life; Fairmont Platinum; Delta Platinum Plus
Posts: 324
Risking being accused of being inconsiderate once more on here, in row three I have less qualms about putting my seat back in row three than I do in rows one or two.
Jan 25, 2019, 12:23 pm
#7774
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: YVR
Programs: TK*G
Posts: 312
Perhaps this is worthy of it's own thread, but any speculation (wild or otherwise) about when/what might be replacements for the Rouge fleet? Despite AC's best efforts, those 767s aren't going to last forever. I think it's quite possible and reasonable to expect that some of the new A220s and/or 73Ms (and/or an increased order for these types) could serve as narrowbody replacements, but the widebody fleet seems to be anyone's guess at this point?
Jan 25, 2019, 12:30 pm
#7775
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Feb 2000
Posts: 12,068
Did the YVR/LAS r/t this week. Found the a/c J cabin OK.
scRouge did not disappoint, still dirty.
scRouge did not disappoint, still dirty.
Jan 26, 2019, 12:49 pm
#7776
Suspended
Join Date: May 2018
Location: ord
Programs: UA 1k SPG Platinum
Posts: 365
Perhaps this is worthy of it's own thread, but any speculation (wild or otherwise) about when/what might be replacements for the Rouge fleet? Despite AC's best efforts, those 767s aren't going to last forever. I think it's quite possible and reasonable to expect that some of the new A220s and/or 73Ms (and/or an increased order for these types) could serve as narrowbody replacements, but the widebody fleet seems to be anyone's guess at this point?
Jan 26, 2019, 1:15 pm
#7777
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Toronto, ON
Programs: AC 75K
Posts: 6,360
AC has started to buy more used junk from other airlines. some 330s coming from TAP, yup TAP will buy new 330s and send some 10 year old planes to AC. And AC is flying the oldest A320s in the world lets hope the 220s replace them because the 737 deliveries have been delayed.
Those A330s spent a year or two at TAP. They’re originally from SQ...hardly junk. Similar to UAs used ‘junk’ A319s from China Southern.
Jan 26, 2019, 1:31 pm
#7778
Join Date: Aug 2018
Location: YYC
Programs: Air Canada SE100K, Westjet Platinum, Marriott Platinum Elite, NEXUS
Posts: 144
According to an article dated Feb 2018, Air Canada wont be exploring replacement options for the 767s at Rouge until the early 2020s.
‘Air Canada is also slowly preparing for the upcoming replacement of its B767-300(ER)s.....The airline is currently exploring "tactical" options of replacing some of the oldest aircraft with younger units and will not decide on a complete replacement before 2020.’
https://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/n...growth-options
‘Air Canada is also slowly preparing for the upcoming replacement of its B767-300(ER)s.....The airline is currently exploring "tactical" options of replacing some of the oldest aircraft with younger units and will not decide on a complete replacement before 2020.’
https://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/n...growth-options
Jan 26, 2019, 1:50 pm
#7779
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Halifax
Programs: AC SE100K, Marriott Lifetime Platinum Elite. NEXUS
Posts: 4,566
According to an article dated Feb 2018, Air Canada wont be exploring replacement options for the 767s at Rouge until the early 2020s.
‘Air Canada is also slowly preparing for the upcoming replacement of its B767-300(ER)s.....The airline is currently exploring "tactical" options of replacing some of the oldest aircraft with younger units and will not decide on a complete replacement before 2020.’
https://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/n...growth-options
‘Air Canada is also slowly preparing for the upcoming replacement of its B767-300(ER)s.....The airline is currently exploring "tactical" options of replacing some of the oldest aircraft with younger units and will not decide on a complete replacement before 2020.’
https://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/n...growth-options
Jan 26, 2019, 4:42 pm
#7780
Join Date: Aug 2018
Location: YYC
Programs: Air Canada SE100K, Westjet Platinum, Marriott Platinum Elite, NEXUS
Posts: 144
Jan 26, 2019, 5:11 pm
#7781
Suspended
Join Date: Aug 2018
Posts: 669
AC wants to replace all the Rouge 767’s with the 787-8’s but mainline pilots are holding this up because of the 787’s range.
Jan 26, 2019, 9:25 pm
#7783
Join Date: Aug 2018
Location: YYC
Programs: Air Canada SE100K, Westjet Platinum, Marriott Platinum Elite, NEXUS
Posts: 144
Maybe they will purchase more used A330s, move them all to Rouge to replace the 767s.
Jan 26, 2019, 10:01 pm
#7784
Suspended
Join Date: Aug 2018
Posts: 669
Source? Newer 787s at Rouge would only raise costs. What makes Rouge viable is using unencumbered high-density planes. Besides, who is to say AC will buy new aircraft to replace the 767s?
Maybe they will purchase more used A330s, move them all to Rouge to replace the 767s.
Jan 26, 2019, 11:20 pm
#7785
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Halifax
Programs: AC SE100K, Marriott Lifetime Platinum Elite. NEXUS
Posts: 4,566
Source? Newer 787s at Rouge would only raise costs. What makes Rouge viable is using unencumbered high-density planes. Besides, who is to say AC will buy new aircraft to replace the 767s?
Maybe they will purchase more used A330s, move them all to Rouge to replace the 767s.
Maybe they will purchase more used A330s, move them all to Rouge to replace the 767s.
Aircraft A, the 1000th off the line, with a open market of parts, from OEM A, paired with engines P, SN 5343 and 5344 from OEM P with cloth seats replaced every 10 years, could well end up being cheaper then Aircraft B, 14 off the line that ends up being shut down after 74, from OEM B, paired with engines 28 and 29 from OEM G with leather seats replaced every 5 years. Even if A & P cost 2x per mile of gas to fly then B & G.