What would you do - R0 J0 All ZERO

Old Sep 23, 12, 7:09 pm
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What would you do - R0 J0 All ZERO

I'm on a flight south next week. I have a full fare Exec ticket.

I can bill the client. The full ticket will be pretty significant. I don't know if I have the stomach to do it.

I can also use a Flight Pass booking which I have -- and upgrade at T48. The client gets a smaller bill.

What are the chances I can cancel the Exec, free up the seat (J is full, the flight is full), and then on another computer hit upgrade on the flight pass booking and snag the seat I just freed up.

Possible? Or am I likely to lose it in milliseconds?
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Old Sep 23, 12, 7:14 pm
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Bill the client. No need to risk sitting in the back.
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Old Sep 23, 12, 7:21 pm
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Old Sep 23, 12, 7:23 pm
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Old Sep 23, 12, 8:28 pm
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Originally Posted by InTheAirGuy View Post

What are the chances I can cancel the Exec, free up the seat (J is full, the flight is full), and then on another computer hit upgrade on the flight pass booking and snag the seat I just freed up.

Possible? Or am I likely to lose it in milliseconds?
It is very possible that the flight is overbooked in C and, if you cancel your ticket, it won't go back to availability at all.
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Old Sep 23, 12, 8:29 pm
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It is very possible that the flight is overbooked in C and, if you cancel your ticket, it won't go back to availability at all.
It's widely held that AC doesn't overbook C.
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Old Sep 23, 12, 8:37 pm
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I'd cut the client a break and fly Y if you are "only" going to the southern US.
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Old Sep 23, 12, 9:14 pm
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Originally Posted by YQMer View Post
It's widely held that AC doesn't overbook C.
Widely known? If they really don't overbook C, they most certainly should. People flying on flexible tickets, like the op, are likely to cancel/rebook/reroute.
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Old Sep 23, 12, 9:22 pm
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I'd cut the client a break and fly Y if you are "only" going to the southern US.
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Old Sep 23, 12, 10:14 pm
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It's widely held that AC doesn't overbook C.
Apparently they did at one time.

But even if they don't now, there are still reasons why a flight might end up being overbooked in J.
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Old Sep 23, 12, 10:38 pm
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They do have waiting lists for C/J apparently though. I know I've been on a waiting list for C on a flight to Peru before.. on a full fare ticket. (I assume by south you mean south america?)
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It is very possible that the flight is overbooked in C and, if you cancel your ticket, it won't go back to availability at all.
It's widely held that AC doesn't overbook C.
But if the entire flight is oversold, there is no reason why the availabilty in any fare category would change based on a single cancellation at the (relative) last moment.
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But if the entire flight is oversold, there is no reason why the availabilty in any fare category would change based on a single cancellation at the (relative) last moment.
True. You'd have to make sure the flight wasn't oversold... Assuming it isn't (and this can be checked with the call centre), then I doubt anyone on a waitlist would clear immediately upon freeing up a J seat (or that the J seat would disappear in milliseconds) as OP had asked.

I've done this a few times (not with releasing a full fare J but rather with releasing an R/J and then converting to the complimentary upgrade). I've never missed, but have always been warned by the call centre staff that it's possible the J wouldn't reappear. The R hasn't sometimes reappeared, but the J always has.
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What would you do - R0 J0 All ZERO

Of course, there is no guarantee that R comes back straight away since it is the lowest subset of J. As soon as a seat up front becomes available it would show up as J1 and the first on the waitlist for a ticket in that booking class would clear.

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