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Also curious to note that AC has removed the OTP page (http://www.aircanada.com/en/about/otp/index.html) from their website since my original post - coincidence?
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Originally Posted by fly_yag
(Post 19212511)
Also curious to note that AC has removed the OTP page (http://www.aircanada.com/en/about/otp/index.html) from their website since my original post - coincidence?
It's a modern automated web update story. |
Originally Posted by fly_yag
(Post 19188015)
For example the most common route I fly is AC10 between YYC and YYZ. From looking at Flightaware it appears that flight has almost never arrived on time. This said, AC10 is not a typical example. That flight comes from tokyo and continues to YYZ. Not a very good choice for YYC-YYZ. If anything goes wrong coming from NRT, it will obviously get delayed. Or replaced by a smaller plane and upgrades will get lost. |
Originally Posted by fly_yag
(Post 19212511)
Also curious to note that AC has removed the OTP page (http://www.aircanada.com/en/about/otp/index.html) from their website since my original post - coincidence?
I guess they realized they weren't doing themselves any favors. Incidentally, WS is still providing theirs at: http://www.westjet.com/guest/en/busi...formance.shtml But I should note that the website explicitly states that "Canadian carriers are not required to report on-time performance statistics." Ah Canada, where the flying public (aka taxpayers) don't matter. Why is Transport Canada not collecting the statistics? |
I also wonder if AC has been decreasing scheduled flight times? It used to be that on a transcontinental flight that a delay of 15 minutes or so could still result in an on time arrival. This no longer seems to be the case on my last few flights, where the usual 15 - 30 minute delay in push back meant a similar delay on arrival.
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Originally Posted by Jrsx
(Post 19212146)
The on-time performance of AC is bad and getting worse. My next AC flight will be YYZ to YVR on Saturday, so I looked up the performance of AC's flights over the last two days. Yesterday 1 of 19 flights arrived on-time with 5 being more than 30 minutes late. So far today 0 of 15 flights are on-time with 11 being at least 30 minutes late. I don't think AC cares about this at all.
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Here's a cached version for those who missed it.
http://webcache.googleusercontent.co...&ct=clnk&gl=us On time performance of 55%, 12% worse than the next worst airline. No wonder they took it off! |
Originally Posted by mountainboy
(Post 19212931)
They care. Enough to delete a web page. Deep caring.
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Originally Posted by Allvest
(Post 19212949)
You can get it here: http://www.flightstats.com/go/Flight....do?airline=AC
The previous poster has a cached version from AC. Looks much worse, straight from the horse's mouth. |
Originally Posted by yulred
(Post 19212882)
Incidentally, WS is still providing theirs at:
http://www.westjet.com/guest/en/busi...formance.shtml I guess that Westjet couldn't give a damn either. |
Originally Posted by m.y
(Post 19212944)
Here's a cached version for those who missed it.
http://webcache.googleusercontent.co...&ct=clnk&gl=us On time performance of 55%, 12% worse than the next worst airline. No wonder they took it off! AC's poor performance is so prominent on their own page. |
Originally Posted by ACYYZ/SD
(Post 19212142)
Many of the posters have already outlined many of the reasons. Tight scheduling, wicked weather patterns, maximum aircraft utilization, some maintenance issues to name a few.
Further, AC has the luxury of hubbing at far less congested airports than the airlines who lap their OTP. I know all US employees receive monthly bonus when the airline is Top3 (I believe) OTP ...... Perhaps AC should consider |
As previously discussed here http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/air-c...y-captain.html. Air Canada would do itself a big favour to defuse extreme dissatisfaction by telling their customers the truth. Last Friday, YYZ to YYC, we were delayed, due to;
1. plane arriving late from origin, then 2. finally board, but now needing to replace a computer, (stand-by's were still boarding)... 3. boarded, then plane was grounded, moved to a new gate, then 4. there was NO WAY our flight was leaving at the new scheduled time - revised gate agent didn't even show up until AFTER the departure time! Had a good laugh as the gate next to us, also leaving for YYC at the same time, delayed due to shortage of flight attendant. Yes, I'd rather be safe than on-time, but c'mon AC - I'd trade in "free drinks" any time for some straight talk. |
I've also noticed this summer. For me, most delays seem to be missing crew (because they were on other plans that were late for either mx or, recursively, missing crew), especially in YYZ. It is worse this year for certain.
Generally, within an hour I don't care so long as I make my connection. What annoys me is the lack of communication (and the occasional downright lie) from gate agents though. |
Originally Posted by ceaton
(Post 19220930)
I've also noticed this summer. For me, most delays seem to be missing crew (because they were on other plans that were late for either mx or, recursively, missing crew), especially in YYZ. It is worse this year for certain.
Generally, within an hour I don't care so long as I make my connection. What annoys me is the lack of communication (and the occasional downright lie) from gate agents though. AC is also dealing with a significant shortage of flight attendants at this time; many have resigned this year and the company has not bothered to replace them. Their crew scheduling department frantically scrambles to take FAs off some flights to crew others, as well as calling FAs in on their day off. Problem is, many FAs are maxed out already. |
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