AC in talks to lease five AC 777LRs from AI
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Let the guessing games begin. Where would they fly?
Guangzhou? India? Johannesburg? Tel Aviv (763 Upgauge)? |
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And will they have purple interiors? |
Originally Posted by KenHamer
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Kinda ironic, the two likeliest airlines to next declare bankruptcy... As noted, AI is getting its 787s next month, too bad AC can't get those ahead of its own trench in the Boeing queue.
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If you read the link, they would be 777-200LRs. Would this be in lieu of, or in addition to, the 5 777s now on order from Boeing?
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Originally Posted by Shareholder
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Kinda ironic, the two likeliest airlines to next declare bankruptcy... As noted, AI is getting its 787s next month, too bad AC can't get those ahead of its own trench in the Boeing queue.
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Can AC also wet lease SQ stewardesses?
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Originally Posted by fin 645
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If you read the link, they would be 777-200LRs. Would this be in lieu of, or in addition to, the 5 777s now on order form Boeing?
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AI may be better off leasing the 787's to AC. That will improve their finances and the Indian Govt. will have to spend less in the subsidies.
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Originally Posted by ACYYZ/SD
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Let the guessing games begin. Where would they fly?
Guangzhou? India? Johannesburg? Tel Aviv (763 Upgauge)? How about this as a new route: YYZ-LOS? YYZ-DXB? Let's just hope they do not add capacity to Europe. |
Originally Posted by JTXC
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How about this as a new route: YYZ-LOS? YYZ-DXB? |
Originally Posted by fin 645
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If you read the link, they would be 777-200LRs. Would this be in lieu of, or in addition to, the 5 777s now on order form Boeing?
Big question is whether these are for AC or will AC flip the airplanes for a quick profit. Boeing likely gave AC a geat deal on the 77W as 787 delay compensation. There are a couple of options open to AC: 1) Use both the 77W and leased 772LR to replace the 333. 2) Use new aircraft for route expansion. 3) Use the new aircraft on existing AC mainline routes and quickly transfer 763s to leisure LCC to add new cities to the LCC. Another question is whether the J-pod in the 763 is an exact replica of the J-pod in 77W? If so, then AC could transfer 763s to the LCC, pull out the pods and put them into 77W. |
Originally Posted by JTXC
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If AC uses these to add routes (possibly they want these to retire 763s?), I would say Guangzhou is top of the list. I strong doubt AC will return to India given the economics of it. JNB is unlikely, since I think LH would object. A TLV upguage would make sense.
How about this as a new route: YYZ-LOS? YYZ-DXB? Let's just hope they do not add capacity to Europe. Here is the go long strategy. LH pulls out of Canada and hands the market over to AC. This would entail AC going onto YVR-FRA with 77W, YYC-FRA up to 77W, YYZ-FRA transfer of 1 frequency, YYZ-DUS with 763, YUL-MUC with 77L or 333. With AT++ in place there is no reason for both airlines to serve the market equally, further it appears that LH has discovered that Canada cannot sustain F class and AC J is better (more saleable) than LH C. |
If these aircraft had been used for some time by AI , I would be very concerned about the maintenance. AI is hardly at the forefront of equipment upkeep and servicing. Perhaps I can be accused of hyperbole, but if there were ever to be an infestation of an aircraft by vermin I would expect it on AI (and PIA) equipment.
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