Jun 23, 2013, 10:09 pm
Last edit by: imverge
Aeroplan fuel surcharges (YQ) collected on the following airlines:
Air Canada (AC)
Lufthansa (LH)
All Nippon Airways (NH)
Asiana (OZ)
Thai (TG)
Austrian Airlines (OS)
LOT Polish Airlines (LO)
TAP Portugal (TP)
Adria Airways (JP)
Aeroplan fuel surcharges (YQ) NOT charged on these airlines:
Aegean Airlines (A3)
Air China (CA)
Air India (AI)
Air New Zealand (NZ)
Avianca/TACA (AV)
Brussels (SN)
Copa (CM)
Croatia (OU)
EgyptAir (MS)
Ethiopian (ET)
Eva Air (BR)
SAS (SK)
Shenzhen (ZH)
Singapore (SQ)
South African Airways (SA)
Swiss (LX)
Turkish (TK)
United (UA)
*Keep in mind AC charges YQ for the entire trip sometimes, so if you do YYZ-PVG-MEL on AC/CA or YYZ-NRT-AKL on AC/NZ, even though the last two segments are not supposed to be charged YQ - AC will charge YQ based on distance of YYZ-MEL/AKL.
Aeroplan's last official statement on fuel surcharges including an important statement that all fuel surcharges are requested by AC, and not by AE or the operating carriers: All fuel surcharge amounts are applied by Aeroplan on behalf of the ticketing carrier and are passed through directly to the ticketing carrier.
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Air Canada (AC)
Lufthansa (LH)
All Nippon Airways (NH)
Asiana (OZ)
Thai (TG)
Austrian Airlines (OS)
LOT Polish Airlines (LO)
TAP Portugal (TP)
Adria Airways (JP)
Aeroplan fuel surcharges (YQ) NOT charged on these airlines:
Aegean Airlines (A3)
Air China (CA)
Air India (AI)
Air New Zealand (NZ)
Avianca/TACA (AV)
Brussels (SN)
Copa (CM)
Croatia (OU)
EgyptAir (MS)
Ethiopian (ET)
Eva Air (BR)
SAS (SK)
Shenzhen (ZH)
Singapore (SQ)
South African Airways (SA)
Swiss (LX)
Turkish (TK)
United (UA)
*Keep in mind AC charges YQ for the entire trip sometimes, so if you do YYZ-PVG-MEL on AC/CA or YYZ-NRT-AKL on AC/NZ, even though the last two segments are not supposed to be charged YQ - AC will charge YQ based on distance of YYZ-MEL/AKL.
Aeroplan's last official statement on fuel surcharges including an important statement that all fuel surcharges are requested by AC, and not by AE or the operating carriers: All fuel surcharge amounts are applied by Aeroplan on behalf of the ticketing carrier and are passed through directly to the ticketing carrier.
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carriers with little or no fuel surcharges for award travel
Mar 28, 2013, 12:38 pm
#46
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: ARN
Programs: AC UA TK FI DL
Posts: 800
May 29, 2013, 6:31 pm
#47
Join Date: Dec 2012
Programs: AY Plat, AA ExP, NH Gold, AMEX PLAT
Posts: 312
Quick ref list to avoid AP scamcharges YQ
Charged when flying on:
Adria
Air Canada
ANA
Asiana
Austrian
LOT Polish
Lufthansa
TAP Portugal
Thai
NOT charged when flying on:
Aegean
Air China
Air New Zealand
Avianca/TACA
Brussels
Copa
Croatia
EgyptAir
Ethiopian
SAS
Singapore
South African Airways
Swiss
TAM
Turkish
United
USAirways
Adria
Air Canada
ANA
Asiana
Austrian
LOT Polish
Lufthansa
TAP Portugal
Thai
NOT charged when flying on:
Aegean
Air China
Air New Zealand
Avianca/TACA
Brussels
Copa
Croatia
EgyptAir
Ethiopian
SAS
Singapore
South African Airways
Swiss
TAM
Turkish
United
USAirways
May 29, 2013, 6:49 pm
#49
Join Date: Jun 1999
Location: YVR
Programs: ACSEMM QRGold SPGLifetimePlat FairmontPlat HyattD AMEXCenturion SerenaPlat TalkBoard Founding Member
Posts: 8,963
May 29, 2013, 8:03 pm
#51
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Canada
Programs: UA*1K MM
Posts: 23,297
May 29, 2013, 8:11 pm
#52
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 309
Is it worth the time to try and minimize YQ or should I just accept it and find the flights that are the most convenient?
May 29, 2013, 10:33 pm
#53
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 4,784
Personally I'd always try for no-YQ options first
then some YQ
then worst case all-YQ airlines (but if that's the case I'd just buy the flight instead of redeeming)
May 30, 2013, 5:04 am
#54
Join Date: May 2007
Location: YYZ, but my heart is in Asia
Programs: AC-SE, CX-DM, DL-G, Hyatt-DM, Hilton-DM, Fairmont-Plt, Marriott-S, Accor-Plt, SPG-G, IHG-Plt
Posts: 4,396
Time is money too. Trying to save a few dollars (or a few hundred dollars) but taking a lot of unnecessary connections and/or crappy UA flights is not worth it in my books.
May 30, 2013, 6:29 am
#55
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Canada
Programs: UA*1K MM
Posts: 23,297
I purposely got ANA to reroute me last minute NRT-ORD-YYZ on NH/UA from codeshare AC metal, just to avoid crappy AC longhaul on a recent paid J ticket.
May 30, 2013, 6:34 am
#56
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Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Canada
Programs: UA*1K MM
Posts: 23,297
Why take AC/LH/OS longhaul to Europe for $1000 in fees, especially slopey LH seats, when one can do LO for 1/3 of YQ on a 787, or UA/US/SK/SN/TK without YQ.
Jun 25, 2013, 4:10 pm
#58
Join Date: Jun 1999
Location: YVR
Programs: ACSEMM QRGold SPGLifetimePlat FairmontPlat HyattD AMEXCenturion SerenaPlat TalkBoard Founding Member
Posts: 8,963
Dec 8, 2013, 6:53 am
#59
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
Programs: Aeroplan SE AND 1MM, HHonors Gold, Marriott Bonvoy Platinum , L'Accor Platinum
Posts: 9,580
Charged when flying on:
Adria
Air Canada
ANA
Asiana
Austrian
LOT Polish
Lufthansa
TAP Portugal
Thai
NOT charged when flying on:
Aegean
Air China
Air New Zealand
Avianca/TACA
Brussels
Copa
Croatia
EgyptAir
Ethiopian
SAS
Singapore
South African Airways
Swiss
TAM
Turkish
United
USAirways
Adria
Air Canada
ANA
Asiana
Austrian
LOT Polish
Lufthansa
TAP Portugal
Thai
NOT charged when flying on:
Aegean
Air China
Air New Zealand
Avianca/TACA
Brussels
Copa
Croatia
EgyptAir
Ethiopian
SAS
Singapore
South African Airways
Swiss
TAM
Turkish
United
USAirways
I ask, because I am planning a trip for my family and myself for 2 weeks during March, where we go to IST and DXB. Fuel Surcharge may be a component of the decision making process - I have no issues going via USA (now that we have nexus/GE).
At least one ticket will be paid business class (ie me). So, from a class of bonus point of view, that limits the options to AC or now LX (non P class). If we take the surcharges into account, that limits the international component to LX or TK.
Dec 8, 2013, 7:22 am
#60
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 4,784
I have read post#19 suggesting that booking on SN one will be charged the fuel surcharge, but you say that this is not the case.
I ask, because I am planning a trip for my family and myself for 2 weeks during March, where we go to IST and DXB. Fuel Surcharge may be a component of the decision making process - I have no issues going via USA (now that we have nexus/GE).
At least one ticket will be paid business class (ie me). So, from a class of bonus point of view, that limits the options to AC or now LX (non P class). If we take the surcharges into account, that limits the international component to LX or TK.
I ask, because I am planning a trip for my family and myself for 2 weeks during March, where we go to IST and DXB. Fuel Surcharge may be a component of the decision making process - I have no issues going via USA (now that we have nexus/GE).
At least one ticket will be paid business class (ie me). So, from a class of bonus point of view, that limits the options to AC or now LX (non P class). If we take the surcharges into account, that limits the international component to LX or TK.
As per AE site:
"With the increasing cost of fuel, many airlines have started charging fuel surcharges on redemption tickets. All fuel surcharge amounts are applied by Aeroplan on behalf of the ticketing carrier and are passed through directly to the ticketing carrier. Fuel surcharge amounts are determined by each airline and may change from time to time. Aeroplan has applied fuel surcharges for flight rewards on Air Canada since 2004. The fuel surcharge amounts to be applied by Aeroplan for flights on Star Alliance airlines will be the same as those applied by the individual airlines within their own frequent flyer programs.
Fuel surcharges applied to flight rewards on the following Star Alliance airlines will be effective as of January 18th, 2012: Adria Airways, Brussels and TAP Portugal.
These are in addition to fuel surcharges applied to flight rewards on Lufthansa that became effective on November 9th, 2011 as well as: ANA, Asiana Airlines, Austrian Airlines, bmi, LOT Polish Airlines and THAI that came into effect on November 30th, 2011.
"With the increasing cost of fuel, many airlines have started charging fuel surcharges on redemption tickets. All fuel surcharge amounts are applied by Aeroplan on behalf of the ticketing carrier and are passed through directly to the ticketing carrier. Fuel surcharge amounts are determined by each airline and may change from time to time. Aeroplan has applied fuel surcharges for flight rewards on Air Canada since 2004. The fuel surcharge amounts to be applied by Aeroplan for flights on Star Alliance airlines will be the same as those applied by the individual airlines within their own frequent flyer programs.
Fuel surcharges applied to flight rewards on the following Star Alliance airlines will be effective as of January 18th, 2012: Adria Airways, Brussels and TAP Portugal.
These are in addition to fuel surcharges applied to flight rewards on Lufthansa that became effective on November 9th, 2011 as well as: ANA, Asiana Airlines, Austrian Airlines, bmi, LOT Polish Airlines and THAI that came into effect on November 30th, 2011.