Fares, points and operating carrier question
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Fares, points and operating carrier question
I know, I know, there is a whole rant post on it, but as I went thru it, unless I missed it, I did not see my particular question:
If I book a UA fare, that is operated by Air Canada in K class, will I get mileage?
United Airlines 8501
operated by AIR CANADA -- AC 0605
United Airlines 8132
operated by QK /JAZZ DBA AIR CANADA JAZZ -- AC 7903
United Airlines 1407
operated by CONTINENTAL AIRLINES -- CO 1407
I assume for flights UA8132 it is a yes, as AC does not have no mileage earning buckets on transborder flights.
UA1407 is a deff yes as UA and CO only have 100% earning buckets, (and are the same company afterall)
But my concern is the first flight on AC605 UA8501
Any experiences to share?
If I book a UA fare, that is operated by Air Canada in K class, will I get mileage?
United Airlines 8501
operated by AIR CANADA -- AC 0605
United Airlines 8132
operated by QK /JAZZ DBA AIR CANADA JAZZ -- AC 7903
United Airlines 1407
operated by CONTINENTAL AIRLINES -- CO 1407
I assume for flights UA8132 it is a yes, as AC does not have no mileage earning buckets on transborder flights.
UA1407 is a deff yes as UA and CO only have 100% earning buckets, (and are the same company afterall)
But my concern is the first flight on AC605 UA8501
Any experiences to share?
#2
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The booking class of the operating carrier is all that matters to Aeroplan. The booking class of the carriers that sell you the ticket means absolutely nothing.
AC K class earns 100% miles. See http://www2.aeroplan.com/earn_miles/...tner=AirCanada
AC K class earns 100% miles. See http://www2.aeroplan.com/earn_miles/...tner=AirCanada
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The booking class of the operating carrier is all that matters to Aeroplan. The booking class of the carriers that sell you the ticket means absolutely nothing.
AC K class earns 100% miles. See http://www2.aeroplan.com/earn_miles/...tner=AirCanada
AC K class earns 100% miles. See http://www2.aeroplan.com/earn_miles/...tner=AirCanada
#4
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I know, I know, there is a whole rant post on it, but as I went thru it, unless I missed it, I did not see my particular question:
If I book a UA fare, that is operated by Air Canada in K class, will I get mileage?
United Airlines 8501
operated by AIR CANADA -- AC 0605
United Airlines 8132
operated by QK /JAZZ DBA AIR CANADA JAZZ -- AC 7903
United Airlines 1407
operated by CONTINENTAL AIRLINES -- CO 1407
I assume for flights UA8132 it is a yes, as AC does not have no mileage earning buckets on transborder flights.
UA1407 is a deff yes as UA and CO only have 100% earning buckets, (and are the same company afterall)
But my concern is the first flight on AC605 UA8501
Any experiences to share?
If I book a UA fare, that is operated by Air Canada in K class, will I get mileage?
United Airlines 8501
operated by AIR CANADA -- AC 0605
United Airlines 8132
operated by QK /JAZZ DBA AIR CANADA JAZZ -- AC 7903
United Airlines 1407
operated by CONTINENTAL AIRLINES -- CO 1407
I assume for flights UA8132 it is a yes, as AC does not have no mileage earning buckets on transborder flights.
UA1407 is a deff yes as UA and CO only have 100% earning buckets, (and are the same company afterall)
But my concern is the first flight on AC605 UA8501
Any experiences to share?
Tango fare buckets are typically available on transborder tickets; its just that on transborder tickets AC typically does not sell fares that correspond to any of those fare buckets.
For example, I looked up fare bucket availability on flightstats.com for YHZ-YYZ-CLE for AC 605 and AC 7903 on March 17, 2012 (I picked a date over a month out to hopefully maximise the number of seats that would be available for sale).
Here are the results:
AC605 Y9 B9 M9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T2 L1 K1 N9 G9 P9 E2 A1
AC7903 Y9 B9 M9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 L9 K9 N9 G9 A9
The Tango fare buckets are N G P E A. As you can see, there is certainly availability in the Tango fare bucket on both the domestic and the transborder flight.
While highly unlikely, it is certainly possible that your UA flight could map to a Tango fare bucket despite the fact that you are on a transborder trip. If you can avoid booking the codeshare, I'd certainly try.
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The part of your post that I have underlined is certainly not true (unless you put the double negative on purpose, in which case your sentence would be true).
Tango fare buckets are typically available on transborder tickets; its just that on transborder tickets AC typically does not sell fares that correspond to any of those fare buckets.
For example, I looked up fare bucket availability on flightstats.com for YHZ-YYZ-CLE for AC 605 and AC 7903 on March 17, 2012 (I picked a date over a month out to hopefully maximise the number of seats that would be available for sale).
Here are the results:
AC605 Y9 B9 M9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T2 L1 K1 N9 G9 P9 E2 A1
AC7903 Y9 B9 M9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 L9 K9 N9 G9 A9
The Tango fare buckets are N G P E A. As you can see, there is certainly availability in the Tango fare bucket on both the domestic and the transborder flight.
While highly unlikely, it is certainly possible that your UA flight could map to a Tango fare bucket despite the fact that you are on a transborder trip. If you can avoid booking the codeshare, I'd certainly try.
Tango fare buckets are typically available on transborder tickets; its just that on transborder tickets AC typically does not sell fares that correspond to any of those fare buckets.
For example, I looked up fare bucket availability on flightstats.com for YHZ-YYZ-CLE for AC 605 and AC 7903 on March 17, 2012 (I picked a date over a month out to hopefully maximise the number of seats that would be available for sale).
Here are the results:
AC605 Y9 B9 M9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T2 L1 K1 N9 G9 P9 E2 A1
AC7903 Y9 B9 M9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 L9 K9 N9 G9 A9
The Tango fare buckets are N G P E A. As you can see, there is certainly availability in the Tango fare bucket on both the domestic and the transborder flight.
While highly unlikely, it is certainly possible that your UA flight could map to a Tango fare bucket despite the fact that you are on a transborder trip. If you can avoid booking the codeshare, I'd certainly try.
If i book on orbitz does the 24h cancelation rule apply? I could book, check with AC and if it is not a good fare bucket cancel?
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i don't think AC's 24 hour cancellation policy applies to TAs, you would be subjected to orbitz's own policy
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I've book with UA to fly AC metal on several occasions. I can't recall what the fare class was for all of the flights but the AC metal flight was either from YYZ to a US destination or a US destination to YYZ. In all instances I received status miles from AE.
I hope that helps.
I hope that helps.
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Sorry to dig up this not-so-old thread, as I am in the same position, and I don't see any updates from the OP as to the outcome
I'm looking at YYZ-MSY-IAH route, where YYZ-MSY is operated by Jazz but has UA flight number 8623. According to UA it is booked under their "L" fare bucket. Wondering whether OP got the miles for his/her UA codeshare flights?
I'm looking at YYZ-MSY-IAH route, where YYZ-MSY is operated by Jazz but has UA flight number 8623. According to UA it is booked under their "L" fare bucket. Wondering whether OP got the miles for his/her UA codeshare flights?
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Sorry to dig up this not-so-old thread, as I am in the same position, and I don't see any updates from the OP as to the outcome
I'm looking at YYZ-MSY-IAH route, where YYZ-MSY is operated by Jazz but has UA flight number 8623. According to UA it is booked under their "L" fare bucket. Wondering whether OP got the miles for his/her UA codeshare flights?
I'm looking at YYZ-MSY-IAH route, where YYZ-MSY is operated by Jazz but has UA flight number 8623. According to UA it is booked under their "L" fare bucket. Wondering whether OP got the miles for his/her UA codeshare flights?
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did you try look up your reservation on www.aircanada.com, if it doesn't work, just call Air Canada and ask for the PNR number for your flight.. then look it up. You will be able to find out exactly what is the fare class.