AC 869 LHR-YYZ Jan 15: Where did they find the plane?
Jan 16, 2012, 10:34 am
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AC 869 LHR-YYZ Jan 15: Where did they find the plane?
On 869 LHR-YYZ yesterday (15th) and we had to deplane because a truck hit one of the cargo doors. The 767 was pulled out of service, but we were on another 767 within an hour.
Considering the plane change, was impressed we were just two hour late arriving in YYZ. Where'd they find the extra 767 in LHR?
Considering the plane change, was impressed we were just two hour late arriving in YYZ. Where'd they find the extra 767 in LHR?
Jan 16, 2012, 11:04 am
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Recently happened to me on AC 161 to Vancouver as well from YYZ.
We were already 2 hours delayed when the captain came out to the waiting area and announced that they couldnt get the problem fixed, but he had arranged for another aircraft. About one hour later luggage and food was moved over and we were boarded.
Was impressed that the flight crew came out to speak to us. When they said there would be a switch I feared that we might get a pineapple or an amigo, but it was an XM'd 767.
We were already 2 hours delayed when the captain came out to the waiting area and announced that they couldnt get the problem fixed, but he had arranged for another aircraft. About one hour later luggage and food was moved over and we were boarded.
Was impressed that the flight crew came out to speak to us. When they said there would be a switch I feared that we might get a pineapple or an amigo, but it was an XM'd 767.
Jan 16, 2012, 11:41 am
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This is the main advantage to flying a major carrier instead of Air Transat or the like. If Transat loses a plane you wait until it's fixed. They don't have spare planes just lying around waiting to substitute.
Presumably they had to do quick turn-arounds on all the remaining flights that day until they could get a new plane over. I think there's lots of padding on the LHR turnarounds because of the variability in the length of the flight and the LHR delays. Also they can't really get more than one round trip TATL so they end up with extra time anyways.
Presumably they had to do quick turn-arounds on all the remaining flights that day until they could get a new plane over. I think there's lots of padding on the LHR turnarounds because of the variability in the length of the flight and the LHR delays. Also they can't really get more than one round trip TATL so they end up with extra time anyways.
Jan 16, 2012, 12:07 pm
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Jan 16, 2012, 12:55 pm
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Jan 16, 2012, 1:05 pm
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I'm probably wrong on this, but I thought I read it on FT somewhere before...
IIRC due to the high frequecy of flights at LHR, the way that AC schedules its plans at LHR essentially allowed for there to be a spare stationed at that airport. That way, if an AC aircraft goes mechanical in Europe, the "spare" at LHR could be dispatched without needing to wait for a replacement to come in all the way from Canada. Does anyone remember/know if this is true?
IIRC due to the high frequecy of flights at LHR, the way that AC schedules its plans at LHR essentially allowed for there to be a spare stationed at that airport. That way, if an AC aircraft goes mechanical in Europe, the "spare" at LHR could be dispatched without needing to wait for a replacement to come in all the way from Canada. Does anyone remember/know if this is true?
Jan 16, 2012, 1:26 pm
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I'm probably wrong on this, but I thought I read it on FT somewhere before...
IIRC due to the high frequecy of flights at LHR, the way that AC schedules its plans at LHR essentially allowed for there to be a spare stationed at that airport. That way, if an AC aircraft goes mechanical in Europe, the "spare" at LHR could be dispatched without needing to wait for a replacement to come in all the way from Canada. Does anyone remember/know if this is true?
IIRC due to the high frequecy of flights at LHR, the way that AC schedules its plans at LHR essentially allowed for there to be a spare stationed at that airport. That way, if an AC aircraft goes mechanical in Europe, the "spare" at LHR could be dispatched without needing to wait for a replacement to come in all the way from Canada. Does anyone remember/know if this is true?
Taking the aircraft from another flight probably just bought them time to address the issue and then dispatch the fixed aircraft on a later flight.
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Jan 16, 2012, 1:40 pm
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However they worked it out, I was impressed with how it was all handled. Nice
Jan 16, 2012, 1:45 pm
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I'm probably wrong on this, but I thought I read it on FT somewhere before...
IIRC due to the high frequecy of flights at LHR, the way that AC schedules its plans at LHR essentially allowed for there to be a spare stationed at that airport. That way, if an AC aircraft goes mechanical in Europe, the "spare" at LHR could be dispatched without needing to wait for a replacement to come in all the way from Canada. Does anyone remember/know if this is true?
IIRC due to the high frequecy of flights at LHR, the way that AC schedules its plans at LHR essentially allowed for there to be a spare stationed at that airport. That way, if an AC aircraft goes mechanical in Europe, the "spare" at LHR could be dispatched without needing to wait for a replacement to come in all the way from Canada. Does anyone remember/know if this is true?
Jan 16, 2012, 2:14 pm
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Why? You would need a crew to be stationed somewhere to ferry the a/c. Takes time and co-ordination. and would likely be easier to dispatch from NA.I envision a scenario of a 763 in FRA with a crew available that is trained on a B777 or A330. Does not make sense,perhaps someone could enlighten me.
Jan 16, 2012, 2:22 pm
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Why? You would need a crew to be stationed somewhere to ferry the a/c. Takes time and co-ordination. and would likely be easier to dispatch from NA.I envision a scenario of a 763 in FRA with a crew available that is trained on a B777 or A330. Does not make sense,perhaps someone could enlighten me.
Jan 16, 2012, 2:50 pm
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There is definitely no spare AC aircraft at FRA, if there was one anywhere in Europe it would be at LHR due to the number of destinations served from there.
Jan 16, 2012, 4:15 pm
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Why? You would need a crew to be stationed somewhere to ferry the a/c. Takes time and co-ordination. and would likely be easier to dispatch from NA.I envision a scenario of a 763 in FRA with a crew available that is trained on a B777 or A330. Does not make sense,perhaps someone could enlighten me.