The 2013 Air Canada Top Tier Program
#46
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: YXU
Programs: AC SE100K, National E/E, HH Diamond, IHG Diamond, MB, Avis PC
Posts: 967
What you don't seem to understand is that 2013 requirements, are effective starting January 1, 2012!!!! People have already made travel plans which would have changed if they knew that AC planned to devalue their current reward level and increase the requirements for this so called new levels.
There goes your so far in advance theory.
Basically giving people 2 weeks noticed, for travel where plans are made well in advance.
As a 5+ yr Elite member, I am not happy with the changes. I will be switching programs. Thank you for convincing me it was the right move as I've been considering it for a while now.
If I had known this all my *A flights would be cancelled. Thankfully I only have one, which is a rewarding booking.
There goes your so far in advance theory.
Basically giving people 2 weeks noticed, for travel where plans are made well in advance.
As a 5+ yr Elite member, I am not happy with the changes. I will be switching programs. Thank you for convincing me it was the right move as I've been considering it for a while now.
If I had known this all my *A flights would be cancelled. Thankfully I only have one, which is a rewarding booking.
#47
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: CHI
Programs: UA 1K, MR Titanium, IHG Gold, National Exec
Posts: 3,841
#48
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: PHL, NYC, DC
Posts: 9,708
Interesting observation, so far majority of the people commented 'happy' with the program are SEs
The fun part will be the E reaction coming forward
Here is my question to this:
"Members who have earned Million Mile recognition will continue to enjoy benefits similar to those awarded upon their initial qualification: If your status is to never fall below Elite, in 2013 you will be entitled to the same recognition as those members who earn 50,000 Status Miles or 50 Status Flight Segments. Of course, you will still be entitled to qualify for a higher level of recognition based on your annual flight activities."
What if your a MM member and fell below Elite? Do you get the 35,000 mile level? The answer above only address "if you never fall below"
Any for yvr76...... the new 35K Elite = *S, *S will not permit you to other carrier's lounges.
The fun part will be the E reaction coming forward
Here is my question to this:
"Members who have earned Million Mile recognition will continue to enjoy benefits similar to those awarded upon their initial qualification: If your status is to never fall below Elite, in 2013 you will be entitled to the same recognition as those members who earn 50,000 Status Miles or 50 Status Flight Segments. Of course, you will still be entitled to qualify for a higher level of recognition based on your annual flight activities."
What if your a MM member and fell below Elite? Do you get the 35,000 mile level? The answer above only address "if you never fall below"
Any for yvr76...... the new 35K Elite = *S, *S will not permit you to other carrier's lounges.
#49
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: YUL
Programs: AC*E
Posts: 779
I did 48k status miles in 2011, all for leisure. I'm cant do 50K for 2013 is not doable, 35K is not worth it to me. The changes means they lost the ~48k in revenue ticket from me for 2012.
#50
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: YUL
Programs: AC-E50K, IHG-P, Bonvoy-G
Posts: 1,268
I think the 35K (35 segments) level is a good product for the domestic traveler. I’ve had many years over 35 segments but below 35K. This new level will now offer the frequent domestic traveler MLL access, priority security clearance and upgrades from T+ on the NA routes. We’ll lose priority baggage handling for whatever that’s worth! I understand that some will be disappointed to loose *G status but we had a feeling that the new 50K *G requirement was coming. I’m overall pleased with the new structure.
#51
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: PHL, NYC, DC
Posts: 9,708
The good thing for us.... 50-75K range people.... is the ability to shop around.....
I have enough ecredits to cover the first 40K plus two transcons i guess?!
I have enough ecredits to cover the first 40K plus two transcons i guess?!
#52
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Canada/US
Programs: AC SE, Marriott LTPP, Avis +
Posts: 213
the change makes sense. there was just too many AC ppl with Gold status. Most of plane is half boarded on Thursday evenings after letting Gold members pre-board.
I'm disappointed by the lack of addition benefits. Most of the other airlines like Delta, US Airways, United offer complimentary upgrades for their 100K flyers, yet AC hasn't added that.
I'll hit SE this year but i'm not sure i'll bother in 2012.
I'm disappointed by the lack of addition benefits. Most of the other airlines like Delta, US Airways, United offer complimentary upgrades for their 100K flyers, yet AC hasn't added that.
I'll hit SE this year but i'm not sure i'll bother in 2012.
#53
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: YYR
Programs: AC-2MM & 75K
Posts: 1,355
As "million mile" I am elite for life. I wonder what benefits I have now?
#54
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: YOW
Programs: AC SE, SPG Plat, FPC Plat, Marriott Plat, Hilton Diamond, Hyatt Diamond
Posts: 553
As others have posted, it is nice to have a difference between someone who flies 35k and 95k, especially when it comes to upgrades, rather than be by fare and then time of request. I would have hated to not received my upgrade having 95k status miles when someone with 35k did.
Am I happy or not? I'm indifferent. What really pissed me off 1) Fuel surcharges on partner airlines booking, and 2) increases in mileage for Business/First Class redemptions.
Either way, we all have a choice, and that's to not fly with Air Canada. I know a lot of ppl complained about the "crowd-ness" of the lounges, perhaps this will make it better.
Am I happy or not? I'm indifferent. What really pissed me off 1) Fuel surcharges on partner airlines booking, and 2) increases in mileage for Business/First Class redemptions.
Either way, we all have a choice, and that's to not fly with Air Canada. I know a lot of ppl complained about the "crowd-ness" of the lounges, perhaps this will make it better.
#55
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: YVR
Programs: AC*SE MM, Marriott Lifetime Titanium
Posts: 4,604
Overall I don't like these changes. 5-tiered Elite programme? Seriously? AC is a small airline compared to the US airlines which have 4 elite tiers to "thin out" the elites. No other airline has 2 *S tiers, and I can only think of one (VN) which has two silver tiers at all. I would prefer it if it stayed at 3 tiers like most airlines. I'm glad I'm not flying AC anymore next year.
#56
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Vancouver, BC
Programs: AE, SPG, HH
Posts: 340
It's been um... interesting!
Still, thanks for letting us know sooner than later. Much better than finding out Dec 2012!
Last edited by helraiser; Dec 22, 2011 at 11:31 am
#57
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: PHL, NYC, DC
Posts: 9,708
Wait........ 35K gets to choose this option????!!!
"Complimentary Star Alliance Lounge access"
and Priority Boarding still?
Source: http://www.aircanada.com/en/aeroplan...2013.html#none
"Complimentary Star Alliance Lounge access"
and Priority Boarding still?
Source: http://www.aircanada.com/en/aeroplan...2013.html#none
#60
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: YOW
Programs: 2MM, Lifetime E75K, Lifetime Hilton Diamond
Posts: 211
Does this mean there will be less gate lice when pre-boarding?
I wonder if there are also plans to introduce pre-boarding by status - that is to offer pre-boarding to J Class and SE's first, and then down the hierarchy list?
I wonder if there are also plans to introduce pre-boarding by status - that is to offer pre-boarding to J Class and SE's first, and then down the hierarchy list?