I just heard ...... fuel surcharges are coming on other carriers!
Nov 8, 2011, 4:36 pm
#32
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If this does turn out to be true, this would hurt Amex MR the most. With AE's award chart devaluation, CO's leaving and now fuel surcharges and impending BA devaluation, the value of Amex MR points has really plummeted in the past 6 months or so.
As for fuel surcharges on awards, yes, most other carriers do charge them on award flights- such as OZ and ANA. This is one of the reasons that ANA awards aren't popular despite often requiring less miles than AE (or UA/CO/US)
As for fuel surcharges on awards, yes, most other carriers do charge them on award flights- such as OZ and ANA. This is one of the reasons that ANA awards aren't popular despite often requiring less miles than AE (or UA/CO/US)
Nov 8, 2011, 7:30 pm
#33
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I had hoped not to lock horns with you but .....
OP is just stirring the waters with unfounded and irresponsible rumours.
Having read some of you other posts I am not surprised that you take the most negative view possible at the earliest convienance.
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Nov 8, 2011, 7:33 pm
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Having read some of you other posts I am not surprised that you take the most negative view possible at the earliest convienance.
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Nov 9, 2011, 8:02 am
#36
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In light of this discussion, I called yesterday to book a trip for next summer. I called at 9:15 mountain time with all my flight legs identified -- the woman was so slow and inept that we never were able to book and she said, "well, I am done for the night, so we'll have to call you tomorrow to finish the booking." I said, "well, I want to avoid the LH fuel surcharge that will be charged tomorrow, can you note my file that I called today to book and therefore shouldn't be charged the fee?" Her response was very AE ... they must take cues from AC. 
She said I would receive a call at 7am today upon opening of the call centre ... 8am now and no call yet. I will call in a bit and try my best. Oh well, perhaps an even more creative routing is in order!
She said I would receive a call at 7am today upon opening of the call centre ... 8am now and no call yet. I will call in a bit and try my best. Oh well, perhaps an even more creative routing is in order!
Nov 9, 2011, 8:03 am
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Nov 9, 2011, 5:53 pm
#42
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ITS TRUE!!!!
soooo glad I cleaned out me AE account, and stuck with UA MP this year.
I think we all owe CanuckOnFire an apology
YYZ-FRA - Sep.6-27,2012 Y class - select LH flights
edit: OS flights as well - but it only appears these two
no YQ on UA, LO, LX charged
Total airport taxes, fees and surcharges (CAD) $511.86
Airport taxes, fees, and surcharges will appear on your credit card statement as an Air Canada charge and will display your ticket number.
Adult(s)
Fuel Surcharge $340.00
Canada Domestic/International Airport Improvement Fee $25.00
Canada Harmonized Sales Tax $3.25
Canada Domestic/International Air Travel Security Charge $25.91
Germany Airport Security Charge $9.30
Germany International Passenger Service Charge $43.20
Germany Air Transport tax $65.20
Total airport taxes, fees and surcharges per passenger $511.86
Total passengers 1
Mods, perhaps a new thread, as this will surely become huge.
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Nov 9, 2011, 6:07 pm
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JFK-FRA Y
Fuel Surcharge $437.40
U.S. International Transportation Tax $34.00
U.S. Passenger Safety Fee $2.60
U.S Passenger Facility Charge $4.70 U.S Agriculture Fee $5.20
U.S.A Immigration User Fee $7.30
U.S. Customs User Fee $5.70
Germany Airport Security Charge $9.30
Germany International Passenger Service Charge $43.20
Germany Air Transport tax $65.20
Total airport taxes, fees and surcharges per passenger $614.60
Total passengers 1
Fuel Surcharge $437.40
U.S. International Transportation Tax $34.00
U.S. Passenger Safety Fee $2.60
U.S Passenger Facility Charge $4.70 U.S Agriculture Fee $5.20
U.S.A Immigration User Fee $7.30
U.S. Customs User Fee $5.70
Germany Airport Security Charge $9.30
Germany International Passenger Service Charge $43.20
Germany Air Transport tax $65.20
Total airport taxes, fees and surcharges per passenger $614.60
Total passengers 1
Nov 9, 2011, 6:08 pm
#45
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soooo glad I cleaned out me AE account, and stuck with UA MP this year.
I think we all owe CanuckOnFire an apology
YYZ-FRA - Sep.6-27,2012 Y class - select LH flights
edit: OS flights as well
no YQ on UA charged
Total airport taxes, fees and surcharges (CAD) $511.86
Airport taxes, fees, and surcharges will appear on your credit card statement as an Air Canada charge and will display your ticket number.
Adult(s)
Fuel Surcharge $340.00
Canada Domestic/International Airport Improvement Fee $25.00
Canada Harmonized Sales Tax $3.25
Canada Domestic/International Air Travel Security Charge $25.91
Germany Airport Security Charge $9.30
Germany International Passenger Service Charge $43.20
Germany Air Transport tax $65.20
Total airport taxes, fees and surcharges per passenger $511.86
Total passengers 1
Mods, perhaps a new thread, as this will surely become huge.
Although I rarely book LH cause of the mediocre C/F product this is definitely not good news.
Looks like 2011 will be a year "which will live in infamy" as far as AC/AP are concerned!