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djjaguar64 Oct 20, 2011 7:22 am


Originally Posted by global_happy_traveller (Post 17304060)
why buy 2 tickets?

Some of the travel agent contract rates allow two airlines to be on the same ticket for one price.....

The AC Tango Plus + SQ/UA are all 100% mileage eligible... Last time I did this, it was about $1200ai

Yep, that is precisely what we do, and I book with toureast.

omkhar Oct 20, 2011 7:44 am

Thanks for all the suggestions, as it would be for business, all booking would be done via AmEx.

AC_flyer Oct 20, 2011 11:01 am

I just did the YYZ-SIN route and returned last week. I flew YYZ-YVR-HKG-SIN, used eUpgrades to upgrade on YYZ-YVR (at the gate) and YVR-HKG (Upgrade confirmed 4 days before departure) 17 eUpgrades for that journey

As I reached my next threshold, I received another 10eUpgrades credits, which allowed me to upgrade on the return and again got HKG-YVR upgrade confirmed 4 days before departure and got by YVR-YYZ confirmed at the gate. I did have a 6 hr layover in YVR.

My HKG-SIN-HKG sectors were booked under SQ flight numbers in 'L' class I believe to get the 100% mileage accrual... Booked it through a travel agent....

djjaguar64 Oct 20, 2011 11:28 am

Hw full was the J cabin? I know that is a difficult flight to upgrade. Also is it low season for that route(HKG)?

worldtraveller73 Oct 20, 2011 11:44 am

Healthwise, I find connecting through HKG much more pleasent than NRT, PVG, or PEK for the simple reason of its location.

If I'm travelling all in one day, a 3.5 hour flight against a long one is much nicer to me than a 7hr one against a long one.

The HKG airport is groovy too.

My preference.

global happy traveller Oct 20, 2011 12:10 pm

The reason(s) I do YYZ-NRT-SIN is because:

1. Gives one of the highest mileage with a shorter travel time (approx 9403mi HKG vs 9736mi NRT)

2. Like some more SQ time than 3 hours...... (with 7 hours I can complete approx 2 movies and some time on a more superior IFE system)

3. I like the Japanese meals

4. I personally find the Japanese passengers tend to keep their washrooms/surroundings cleaner. Also they are more courteous.

5. I like the NRT lounge (showers, noodles, soup) as opposed to HKG...... lounges so/so and the SQ one doesn't even have washrooms.

6. I find NRT airport is less congested than HKG

7. For AC/SQ connection, the walk @ NRT is shorter

8. I cant sit for long, so a split mid way is perfect....... (not sure why but after mid flight i start counting down the time)

9. Easier to use E-upgrades

AC_flyer Oct 20, 2011 1:07 pm


Originally Posted by djjaguar64 (Post 17307231)
Hw full was the J cabin? I know that is a difficult flight to upgrade. Also is it low season for that route(HKG)?

I flew YYZ-YVR-HKG on Oct 5 and the J cabin was full on the YVR-HKG sector. Returned on HKG-YVR-YYZ on Oct 12. HKG-YVR was only 50%~60% in J. YVR-YYZ on the AC 156 (B763) flight was full in J.

I believe Oct 13 was the day the FA's were supposed to go on strike...

Flying YYZ-YVR-HKG-SIN netted me 10,060 miles one way...

I preferred the HKG stopover personally due to the ability to get upgraded on a longer sector.... YYZ-YVR-HKG ~ 17h30 in J on the Westbound

djjaguar64 Oct 20, 2011 1:18 pm


Originally Posted by AC_flyer (Post 17307795)
I flew YYZ-YVR-HKG on Oct 5 and the J cabin was full on the YVR-HKG sector. Returned on HKG-YVR-YYZ on Oct 12. HKG-YVR was only 50%~60% in J. YVR-YYZ on the AC 156 (B763) flight was full in J.

I believe Oct 13 was the day the FA's were supposed to go on strike...

Flying YYZ-YVR-HKG-SIN netted me 10,060 miles one way...

I preferred the HKG stopover personally due to the ability to get upgraded on a longer sector.... YYZ-YVR-HKG ~ 17h30 in J on the Westbound

Thanks, I am planning my trip for SIN for next year and am looking at all the options. Planning on leaving May 31 and return Jun 16.

Santander Oct 20, 2011 1:45 pm


Originally Posted by global_happy_traveller (Post 17307450)
4. I personally find the Japanese passengers tend to keep their washrooms/surroundings cleaner. Also they are more courteous.

5. I like the NRT lounge (showers, noodles, soup) as opposed to HKG...... lounges so/so and the SQ one doesn't even have washrooms.

9. Easier to use E-upgrades

4. ^ I think Japanese and Taiwanese passengers are always very orderly and pleasant to be around, especially if you end up getting stuck in the back of the bus.

5. Like the food at NH's NRT lounges but can't compete with SQ's fully-loaded offerings at HKG. However, I agree that the NRT NH lounges themselves are better than the somewhat stuffy area of the HKG SKL. Plus you get washrooms, showers and very clean smoking rooms. Some of the lounge attendants at NRT are very pretty, too!

9. This is the big one, really. Ex-YYZ it's a decently long flight without too much loads in contrast to the flights from YVR.

global happy traveller Oct 20, 2011 2:51 pm

if i recall for a 2 stopper, the longest is via LAX or SFO followed by NRT, HKG or ICN.

but then to net the longest AC J, your route would be correct


Originally Posted by AC_flyer (Post 17307795)
I flew YYZ-YVR-HKG on Oct 5 and the J cabin was full on the YVR-HKG sector. Returned on HKG-YVR-YYZ on Oct 12. HKG-YVR was only 50%~60% in J. YVR-YYZ on the AC 156 (B763) flight was full in J.

I believe Oct 13 was the day the FA's were supposed to go on strike...

Flying YYZ-YVR-HKG-SIN netted me 10,060 miles one way...

I preferred the HKG stopover personally due to the ability to get upgraded on a longer sector.... YYZ-YVR-HKG ~ 17h30 in J on the Westbound


Keops Oct 20, 2011 7:26 pm

Not quite on subject here, but I've been 5 times in Singapore over the last 18 months and I am quite sure that the Air Canada website showed routes from YQB to SIN.

I need to go back in a few weeks and now that same search comes up empty and asks to call in. I don't mind calling in, just wondering what changed.

YYZ-SIN works ok. YUL-SIN also.

Thanks,

Keops

AC_flyer Oct 21, 2011 7:26 am


Originally Posted by global_happy_traveller (Post 17308356)
if i recall for a 2 stopper, the longest is via LAX or SFO followed by NRT, HKG or ICN.

but then to net the longest AC J, your route would be correct

It was either flying longer in SQ in Y vs AC in J using eUpgrades. I did take a risk with the latter and I was lucky. :D
If I had known that I had no chance of getting J using eUpgrades, I would have opted for SQ via LAX or SFO. One thing about SQ I noticed was the huge fuel surcharge they are tagging on. Usually SQ tickets are about $1900 ai for Q Class (No mileage) and probably another $200 more for W class (for 100% Mileage) vs less than $1500 for AC flights via HKG, NRT, PVG or PEK with 100 Mileage... I guess if you want to fly longer in SQ, be prepared to pay the premium....:(

global happy traveller Oct 21, 2011 7:43 am


Originally Posted by AC_flyer (Post 17311699)
It was either flying longer in SQ in Y vs AC in J using eUpgrades. I did take a risk with the latter and I was lucky. :D
If I had known that I had no chance of getting J using eUpgrades, I would have opted for SQ via LAX or SFO. One thing about SQ I noticed was the huge fuel surcharge they are tagging on. Usually SQ tickets are about $1900 ai for Q Class (No mileage) and probably another $200 more for W class (for 100% Mileage) vs less than $1500 for AC flights via HKG, NRT, PVG or PEK with 100 Mileage... I guess if you want to fly longer in SQ, be prepared to pay the premium....:(

The YVR-HKG is okay with upgrades....i mean Mrs GHT (back then w/o status) and I got upgraded both ways using the old SSWU and SWU certs

AC_flyer Oct 21, 2011 9:04 am


Originally Posted by Keops (Post 17309574)
Not quite on subject here, but I've been 5 times in Singapore over the last 18 months and I am quite sure that the Air Canada website showed routes from YQB to SIN.

I need to go back in a few weeks and now that same search comes up empty and asks to call in. I don't mind calling in, just wondering what changed.

YYZ-SIN works ok. YUL-SIN also.

Thanks,

Keops

I did notice that the choices are limited as well. Wonder if there is a glitch in the system or if there is just a lack of inventory.... :confused:

The Lev Oct 21, 2011 10:27 am

Through Expedia I note an E class fare for around $1,200. I'm assuming if I fly via NRT that maps to Tango Plus but if I go through PVG or HKG it will be non-upgradeable Tango - correct?


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