FYI - F Award Tickets using LH YYC-FRA-YYC Downgraded
May 11, 2011, 3:15 pm
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FYI - F Award Tickets using LH YYC-FRA-YYC Downgraded
Just a heads up for everyone. I checked a booking of mine this morning to find that for the second year in a row LH has switched to 2 cabin service for the Winter (2011-12) schedule.
Anyone holding F tickets on LH YYC-FRA-YYC will likely now find themselves bumped back into business.
It also looks like they are cancelling Tuesday and Thursday service.
I got on the phone after finding a new routing that I would be satisfied with. Agent processed my requested changes in about 15 minutes...and of course no charges apply so that's nice.
Anyone holding F tickets on LH YYC-FRA-YYC will likely now find themselves bumped back into business.
It also looks like they are cancelling Tuesday and Thursday service.
I got on the phone after finding a new routing that I would be satisfied with. Agent processed my requested changes in about 15 minutes...and of course no charges apply so that's nice.
May 11, 2011, 5:56 pm
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If you're going to have to fly business on this route, I'd see if you can transfer over to AC, a superior product to LH's business product.
May 11, 2011, 6:11 pm
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FYI, every winter sched the same happens to the LH#470/471 FRA-YYZ-FRA goes to a 2 cabin aircraft but the yearly YUL-MUC LH#475/474 stays a 3 cabin class aircraft.
May 11, 2011, 7:03 pm
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The seat on AC may be superior granted...but the serice on LH is much more superior than AC could ever dream of being in Business Class.
FYI, every winter sched the same happens to the LH#470/471 FRA-YYZ-FRA goes to a 2 cabin aircraft but the yearly YUL-MUC LH#475/474 stays a 3 cabin class aircraft.
FYI, every winter sched the same happens to the LH#470/471 FRA-YYZ-FRA goes to a 2 cabin aircraft but the yearly YUL-MUC LH#475/474 stays a 3 cabin class aircraft.
I would add AC's cabin is superior (everyone with a private seat and aisle access). The AC pax/fa/lav ratio is better. I prefer AC's IFE choices but that's just me. Wine (especially the unpublished "surprise" wines) on AC are better. Again, my personal preference but I prefer that almost all AC aircraft have air nozzles; none on LH on any aircraft.
But agree on LH service (not that AC is "bad"; it's just okay) and would also give LH the significant advantage on food (creatively, diversity, preparation, choices).
May 12, 2011, 7:49 am
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I prefer LH food and beverage over AC but certainly give AC higher marks for the Executive First pod. I don't like the LH Business Class seat at all for sleeping. However the AC flight didn't have any Business Award space on our travel dates and since it was LH making the downgrade AC/AE will not open space. It all worked out fine. I rerouted us to ORD on UA F (obviously nothing special) to catch LH F there and changed our return to LX F from ZRH to YUL and then home to YYC on AC J.
May 12, 2011, 8:37 am
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This is exactly the reason I try to avoid AC for Aeroplan travel whenever I can. I recently booked a roundtrip to Asia for next spring and Air Canada is charging $557.40 fuel surcharge for the ticket, bring the total taxes & fees to over $700. It's criminal. I'll be constantly monitoring availability on NZ, UA and OZ and will switch my ticket to get rid of the YQ.
May 12, 2011, 8:41 am
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May 12, 2011, 10:43 am
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I find I get the best results when I find alternative flights with available award inventory myself and they tell the AE agent or schedule change department what I want.
You do not have to anything now if you don't want to. AE will not likely inform you for months to come.
You now hold fully flexible award ticket. Any flight/routing changes required due the downgrade will not incur a change fee or tax/fee recalculation. You can also cancel with no cancel fee.
May 12, 2011, 10:55 am
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Thanks YYCworldtraveler. In response to the change i have altered to the following;
yyc-yul AC Y - can i force AC to open up J seats?
YUL-ZRH LX F
ZRH-FRA LH J
Will I be able to enter the FRA First Class Terminal? it is the only reason I was going through FRA.
Thank you especially to the OP
yyc-yul AC Y - can i force AC to open up J seats?
YUL-ZRH LX F
ZRH-FRA LH J
Will I be able to enter the FRA First Class Terminal? it is the only reason I was going through FRA.
Thank you especially to the OP
May 12, 2011, 11:30 am
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Thanks YYCworldtraveler. In response to the change i have altered to the following;
yyc-yul AC Y - can i force AC to open up J seats?
YUL-ZRH LX F
ZRH-FRA LH J
Will I be able to enter the FRA First Class Terminal? it is the only reason I was going through FRA.
Thank you especially to the OP
yyc-yul AC Y - can i force AC to open up J seats?
YUL-ZRH LX F
ZRH-FRA LH J
Will I be able to enter the FRA First Class Terminal? it is the only reason I was going through FRA.
Thank you especially to the OP
