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Piratos Apr 2, 2011 6:36 am

Embraer reliability?
 
After going for an incredibly long stretch without experiencing any delays on AC due to mechanical problems I have had 4 in the last 3 weeks all exceeding two hours and all involving Embraer planes. The most recent was AC 464 yesterday. I have no idea what the problems have been. In 3 of the cases we were moved to a different plane such as with AC 124 on March 25th. Just bad luck or is something going on with these planes?

PhotoJim Apr 2, 2011 10:15 am

I had a cancelled flight from YYC-YYZ that was supposed to be on an E90. This was May 2010. Otherwise I've had good luck with the Embraers. I'm on them on the YQR-YYZ and vice versa route quite frequently, and have been on them YYC-JFK, SAN-YVR, SAN-YYC, YYC-YEG and YVR-YEG without issue.

I'm not sure if the Embraers are inherently unreliable; too small a sample size.

Stranger Apr 2, 2011 10:53 am

Apart from the slat problem (which by now might have been fixed) they look OK.

Souvlaki Apr 2, 2011 11:39 am

I fly YVR-YYC about 40 segments a year. I usually pick an E90 over the A319/320 because it is much quieter and I prefer the single A seat in J when I can get it. I have not noticed the E90 to be any better or worse on reliability than the Airbus family.

global happy traveller Apr 2, 2011 6:53 pm

only had 2 breakdown out of the many times i travel on E70 (UA), E75 and E90.......... Gotta say I love those things (compared to A319, 320, 321).... must be the sleek interior design

morphius909 Apr 2, 2011 7:36 pm


Originally Posted by global_happy_traveller (Post 16149512)
only had 2 breakdown out of the many times i travel on E70 (UA), E75 and E90.......... Gotta say I love those things (compared to A319, 320, 321).... must be the sleek interior design

Definitely enjoy the E90s over Airbus 319/320's.^

Jim007 Apr 2, 2011 7:59 pm

I generally like the "E Series" but they seem to be less tolerant of adverse weather, in particular high winds.

tilhas Apr 3, 2011 12:35 am

No way. I hate the E90, you can barely fit any bags in the overhead cabin. A319 is my favorite domestic plane hands down.

EZESE Apr 3, 2011 5:45 am


Originally Posted by tilhas (Post 16150483)
No way. I hate the E90, you can barely fit any bags in the overhead cabin. A319 is my favorite domestic plane hands down.

Agreed about the luggage bins!...can't swing a cat on those tin cans either!...although they are quiet.

tracon Apr 3, 2011 10:48 am

10:00 YVR-YYC is being operated with an Amigo today.

lardiop Apr 3, 2011 11:02 am

Prefer the E90/E75 to the A319/20/21.

Better ride, 2x2 seating. ^

Stranger Apr 3, 2011 1:03 pm


Originally Posted by lardiop (Post 16152188)
Prefer the E90/E75 to the A319/20/21.

Better ride.

Ride cannot possibly be better: smaller plane, smaller wing = inherently more bumpy.

I like the single seat. Especially 1A. I guess if having to be seated on the 2 side, might as well be on a 319/320/321. I don't really care.

zorn Apr 3, 2011 3:22 pm


Originally Posted by Piratos (Post 16146663)
After going for an incredibly long stretch without experiencing any delays on AC due to mechanical problems I have had 4 in the last 3 weeks all exceeding two hours and all involving Embraer planes. The most recent was AC 464 yesterday. I have no idea what the problems have been. In 3 of the cases we were moved to a different plane such as with AC 124 on March 25th. Just bad luck or is something going on with these planes?

The problem is that you are a human being, and human beings are horrible at distinguishing random from not-random.

If you were a computer program that did nothing aside from simulate Poisson processes, you wouldn't have noticed anything unusual, aside from wondering why FAs keep offering drinks to a computer program.

acysb87 Apr 3, 2011 4:27 pm


Originally Posted by lardiop (Post 16152188)
Prefer the E90/E75 to the A319/20/21.

Better ride, 2x2 seating. ^

The Embraer was switched out for a Jetz A320(fin 401) today on AC411:cool::(^:confused:
Same a/c that flew home the Habs night before.I wanted to know where Gomez sits so I could put a tack on his seat to light a fire under his butt :-)

I say :cool: because seat 7d-f are emergency row seats and we had 2 metres open space in front of us.
I say:( because the SE check-in desk had no idea what was going on.I had been in seats 1d-f and inquired why.
I say :confused: because the SE check in desk told me to straighten out involuntary downgrade and Mrs.acysb87s J reward tix at check-in gate.I know what the Rapidair gates are like.Good grief.

All said,I now should get back some points for Mrs.acysb87s ticket and an E-credit to my account:D

rehoult Apr 3, 2011 4:58 pm


Originally Posted by Stranger (Post 16152712)
Ride cannot possibly be better: smaller plane, smaller wing = inherently more bumpy.

+1 I love the Embraers for the cabin, but the ride is far better in the Airbus. The E90s can be a pretty rough ride over the prairies.


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