2011 Air Canada Top Tier Program Changes - General Discussion
Dec 8, 2010, 11:59 pm
#46
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Assume YYZ-YVR-NRT T+ fare
YYZ-YVR 10 credits
YVR-NRT 14 credits
YYZ-YVR-NRT 20 credits
I´m sure some folks would be interested in only upgrading the TPAC sector in order to save 6 credits, is this possible?
Dec 9, 2010, 12:00 am
#47
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Why couldn't they simply keep the North America and International zones they had before instead of this <1,500 mile and <5,000 mile stuff?
I'm guessing as an E, if I'm lucky I'll be able to start the year with enough credits to have the equivalent of 2 SSWU.
Dec 9, 2010, 12:00 am
#48
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I just stepped over a somewhat worrying part:
Cancelling upgrades:
you can cancel the upgrade request by contacting Air Canada Reservations or your travel agent. Note that if your originally purchased Economy booking class is no longer available, you may need to pay the applicable fare difference.
What the heck???
If I book a T+ fare, upgrade at the upgrade window, decide to cancel the upgrade a day before the flight, I´d most likely be forced to pay the fare difference (which is likely to be $$$$ as only Lat fare are usually sold a few days before departure)?
Cancelling upgrades:
you can cancel the upgrade request by contacting Air Canada Reservations or your travel agent. Note that if your originally purchased Economy booking class is no longer available, you may need to pay the applicable fare difference.
What the heck???
If I book a T+ fare, upgrade at the upgrade window, decide to cancel the upgrade a day before the flight, I´d most likely be forced to pay the fare difference (which is likely to be $$$$ as only Lat fare are usually sold a few days before departure)?
Sorry if that doesn't make any senses... brain shutting down...
Dec 9, 2010, 12:02 am
#49
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Yes, but I was asking whether it´s possible to upgrade only part of the trip:
Assume YYZ-YVR-NRT T+ fare
YYZ-YVR 10 credits
YVR-NRT 14 credits
YYZ-YVR-NRT 20 credits
I´m sure some folks would be interested in only upgrading the TPAC sector in order to save 6 credits, is this possible?
Assume YYZ-YVR-NRT T+ fare
YYZ-YVR 10 credits
YVR-NRT 14 credits
YYZ-YVR-NRT 20 credits
I´m sure some folks would be interested in only upgrading the TPAC sector in order to save 6 credits, is this possible?
Dec 9, 2010, 12:04 am
#50
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I'm assuming that the credits required for a one-way trip (including connections) is based on the great circle distance between the origin and destination and not on the flight options actually available.
The examples given on the website are for YYZ-YUL-FRA vs. YYZ-FRA. What happens if there is no non-stop alternative between the origin and destination cities? If I fly YEG-YYZ/YYC-FRA do I just pay the credits for YEG-FRA, or will I have to pay for YEG-YYZ/YYC and then YYZ/YYC-FRA since there is no non-stop option between the cities?
The examples given on the website are for YYZ-YUL-FRA vs. YYZ-FRA. What happens if there is no non-stop alternative between the origin and destination cities? If I fly YEG-YYZ/YYC-FRA do I just pay the credits for YEG-FRA, or will I have to pay for YEG-YYZ/YYC and then YYZ/YYC-FRA since there is no non-stop option between the cities?
In your example, YEG-FRA is <5000miles (therefore would require 6/10/14 credits), but the sum of YEG-YYZ and YYZ-FRA is >5000miles.
The website seems to support this:
If you request an upgrade for an entire one-way itinerary that contains flight connections, you will be charged the lesser of:
* the number of credits required for an upgrade between your origin and destination
Dec 9, 2010, 12:05 am
#51
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HAHAI guess just have to wait til tomorrow morning to find out how much credit to start with...
Dec 9, 2010, 12:07 am
#52
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I just stepped over a somewhat worrying part:
Cancelling upgrades:
you can cancel the upgrade request by contacting Air Canada Reservations or your travel agent. Note that if your originally purchased Economy booking class is no longer available, you may need to pay the applicable fare difference.
What the heck???
If I book a T+ fare, upgrade at the upgrade window, decide to cancel the upgrade a day before the flight, I´d most likely be forced to pay the fare difference (which is likely to be $$$$ as only Lat fare are usually sold a few days before departure)?
Cancelling upgrades:
you can cancel the upgrade request by contacting Air Canada Reservations or your travel agent. Note that if your originally purchased Economy booking class is no longer available, you may need to pay the applicable fare difference.
What the heck???
If I book a T+ fare, upgrade at the upgrade window, decide to cancel the upgrade a day before the flight, I´d most likely be forced to pay the fare difference (which is likely to be $$$$ as only Lat fare are usually sold a few days before departure)?
Dec 9, 2010, 12:07 am
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Dec 9, 2010, 12:17 am
#54
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This part is pretty ridiculous.. I understand their logic but it seems like like something imposed by IT than a policy that makes sense.
Dec 9, 2010, 12:18 am
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Looks like that's the list of non DCS airports that have J service. The rest are probably Jazz.
Dec 9, 2010, 12:20 am
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Dec 9, 2010, 12:24 am
#57
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I surely hope that the credits required are based on the distance between origin and destination and not on BIS miles.
In your example, YEG-FRA is <5000miles (therefore would require 6/10/14 credits), but the sum of YEG-YYZ and YYZ-FRA is >5000miles.
The website seems to support this:
If you request an upgrade for an entire one-way itinerary that contains flight connections, you will be charged the lesser of:
* the number of credits required for an upgrade between your origin and destination
In your example, YEG-FRA is <5000miles (therefore would require 6/10/14 credits), but the sum of YEG-YYZ and YYZ-FRA is >5000miles.
The website seems to support this:
If you request an upgrade for an entire one-way itinerary that contains flight connections, you will be charged the lesser of:
* the number of credits required for an upgrade between your origin and destination
That's kind of my point. There is no way to fly YEG-FRA without connecting, so the wording "the number of credits required for an upgrade between your origin and destination" could be interpreted as "not applicable." A simple clarification would clear this up.
Dec 9, 2010, 12:29 am
#58
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Dec 9, 2010, 12:32 am
#59
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I surely hope that the credits required are based on the distance between origin and destination and not on BIS miles.
In your example, YEG-FRA is <5000miles (therefore would require 6/10/14 credits), but the sum of YEG-YYZ and YYZ-FRA is >5000miles.
The website seems to support this:
If you request an upgrade for an entire one-way itinerary that contains flight connections, you will be charged the lesser of:
* the number of credits required for an upgrade between your origin and destination
In your example, YEG-FRA is <5000miles (therefore would require 6/10/14 credits), but the sum of YEG-YYZ and YYZ-FRA is >5000miles.
The website seems to support this:
If you request an upgrade for an entire one-way itinerary that contains flight connections, you will be charged the lesser of:
* the number of credits required for an upgrade between your origin and destination
Dec 9, 2010, 12:39 am
#60
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One more thing I have discover...
If you are a P, you can't upgrade for T+ (H, K, L, Q, S, T, U, V, W) even if you have credit, it will show "Not eligible for upgrade"
Just like no SSWU for P in 2010.
Here is the URL to check... https://services.aircanada.com/eupgw...ice/eupgrade/#
If you are a P, you can't upgrade for T+ (H, K, L, Q, S, T, U, V, W) even if you have credit, it will show "Not eligible for upgrade"
Just like no SSWU for P in 2010.
Here is the URL to check... https://services.aircanada.com/eupgw...ice/eupgrade/#