AC YVR-HKG W 10 Change

Old Aug 4, 10, 5:35 pm
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AC YVR-HKG W 10 Change

As per 04AUG10 GDS timetable display, Air Canada from 31OCT10 is adjusting Vancouver – Hong Kong schedule. Current red-eye departure from Vancouver will move to noon hours. Also, there’s also flight number changes, and operates at reduced frequency from 31OCT10 to 15DEC10.

The flight will also originates from Toronto. Details below:

till 30OCT10
AC017 YVR0205 – 0610+1HKG 77W D
AC018 HKG1755 – 1435YVR 77W D

eff 31OCT10
AC007 YYZ0800 – 0955YVR1140 – 1720+1HKG 77W x13
AC008 HKG1910 – 1430YVR1620 – 2337YYZ 77W x24

Service increase to Daily from 16DEC10

Source: Airline Route Updates by jimyvr
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Old Aug 4, 10, 5:41 pm
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Can someone help with the reasoning behind the change?

Arriving in HKG at 17:20 means you've missed the work day and therefore have a very long night to recover before working the next day. I would have thought this would impact paid J sales; (as a company) why would I pay a huge premium for someone to arrive rested...so that they can promptly go back to bed?
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Old Aug 4, 10, 5:43 pm
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i wonder where this 777 will go? Perhaps YYZ-CUN will become a 777? for that 45 days.
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Old Aug 4, 10, 5:44 pm
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Originally Posted by rehoult View Post
Can someone help with the reasoning behind the change?
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perhaps it's AC trying to avoid idling the aircraft?
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Old Aug 4, 10, 5:49 pm
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Originally Posted by rehoult View Post
Can someone help with the reasoning behind the change?
My guesses are that the current schedule doesn't allow for the greatest connections on the outbound. I'm flying on the 24th and I have a six (!!!) hour layover from PDX. Secondly, the plane idles in HKG for more than eleven hours. At first I thought maybe the plane then operated to YYZ but that's a 77L and not a 77W, which is used YVR-HKG.
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Old Aug 4, 10, 6:25 pm
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the 777 and the 340 before them always sat a long time in HKG. AC does do contract maintenance on them however.
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Pity, the new schedule with the redeye only started in March and it was really quite convenient. Hopefully it'll be back in the new year.
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Old Aug 4, 10, 7:04 pm
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The early morning arrival at HKG is great. I can board the plane after work and arrive the next morning, saving many hours and fly while sleeping. Now, with the change is schedule, I would stick with AC15 and fly non-stop from YYZ.
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Old Aug 4, 10, 7:06 pm
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Oh no..... I love that red-eye schedule and I can have another usable day in HK once I arrived.........
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Old Aug 4, 10, 9:12 pm
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Originally Posted by rehoult View Post
Can someone help with the reasoning behind the change?
1. Better aircraft utilization
2. Better crew utilization & lower crew costs
3. Piss off loyal business travellers by constantly tinkering with flight schedules
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Old Aug 4, 10, 10:00 pm
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Originally Posted by shuttlerider View Post
1. Better aircraft utilization
2. Better crew utilization & lower crew costs
3. Piss off loyal business travellers by constantly tinkering with flight schedules
its just for 5 weeks and I suspect the mail reason is to REDUCE capacity.
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Old Aug 4, 10, 10:37 pm
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Originally Posted by why fly View Post
the 777 and the 340 before them always sat a long time in HKG. AC does do contract maintenance on them however.
Actually contract maintenance for the 777's was recently awarded to Air France Industries/KLM Engineering & Maintenance. Not sure when it takes effect.
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Originally Posted by why fly View Post
its just for 5 weeks and I suspect the mail reason is to REDUCE capacity.
I don't see how changing the departure times reduces capacity?
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Old Aug 4, 10, 10:59 pm
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Originally Posted by ACYYZ/SD View Post
Actually contract maintenance for the 777's was recently awarded to Air France Industries/KLM Engineering & Maintenance. Not sure when it takes effect.
thats for heavy engine work.
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Originally Posted by shuttlerider View Post
I don't see how changing the departure times reduces capacity?
They also changed it from daily to twice a week (each direction) I believe.
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