Mini RTW Questions
Jul 16, 2019, 6:35 pm
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There are two other threads that have been discussing this for 36 hours 
The official announcement says it's a temporary change.
The official announcement says it's a temporary change.
Jul 16, 2019, 6:37 pm
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don't need to discuss it here, just figured I'd share for those that also only check here.("Temporary" sure sure.)
Jul 16, 2019, 7:37 pm
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Some have speculated they may re-introduce the 2x stopover rule, but with the new search engine only be able to book online thus limiting actual availablity and routings.
Who really knows though.
Jul 17, 2019, 11:13 pm
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Booked a mRTW today for 2 - 1 NH segment (NH 843 HND-SIN) showed 2 available seats on EF and ANA, but Aeroplan only showed the agent 1. Any idea on whether this is an ANA restriction or an Aeroplan glitch? Any advice would be much appreciated!
Jul 18, 2019, 4:14 am
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Seen many instances of EF and ANA getting access to more ANA seats than Aeroplan. Just the way it is.
Jul 18, 2019, 3:51 pm
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ANA releases more award availability to its own members than to partner airlines, especially in business and First class, and afaik EF uses NH as its data source, so neither is accurate when trying to redeem AE miles.
Jul 18, 2019, 3:53 pm
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Jul 19, 2019, 4:45 pm
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With regards to MPM, is there any leniency / is there a +/- 10% rule?
Or did I make that up...
Trying to book a mini-RTW from YVR with DPS (or somewhere else) as the destination. MPM is 13,338.
Wanted to route back through Europe but only possible routing would be DPS - IST - YUL - YVR which comes in at 13,514 on GC mapper.
Or another example is trying to use MRU as the destination. MPM is 16,700.
Found a couple routings on GCMapper but mileage coming in just over at 16,914.
From YVR it does seem pretty difficult to visit anything too far south / east in the Pacific and go back through Europe.
Or did I make that up...
Trying to book a mini-RTW from YVR with DPS (or somewhere else) as the destination. MPM is 13,338.
Wanted to route back through Europe but only possible routing would be DPS - IST - YUL - YVR which comes in at 13,514 on GC mapper.
Or another example is trying to use MRU as the destination. MPM is 16,700.
Found a couple routings on GCMapper but mileage coming in just over at 16,914.
From YVR it does seem pretty difficult to visit anything too far south / east in the Pacific and go back through Europe.
Last edited by CanadianMike; Jul 19, 2019 at 4:56 pm
Jul 19, 2019, 5:46 pm
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With regards to MPM, is there any leniency / is there a +/- 10% rule?
Or did I make that up...
Trying to book a mini-RTW from YVR with DPS (or somewhere else) as the destination. MPM is 13,338.
Wanted to route back through Europe but only possible routing would be DPS - IST - YUL - YVR which comes in at 13,514 on GC mapper.
Or another example is trying to use MRU as the destination. MPM is 16,700.
Found a couple routings on GCMapper but mileage coming in just over at 16,914.
From YVR it does seem pretty difficult to visit anything too far south / east in the Pacific and go back through Europe.
Or did I make that up...
Trying to book a mini-RTW from YVR with DPS (or somewhere else) as the destination. MPM is 13,338.
Wanted to route back through Europe but only possible routing would be DPS - IST - YUL - YVR which comes in at 13,514 on GC mapper.
Or another example is trying to use MRU as the destination. MPM is 16,700.
Found a couple routings on GCMapper but mileage coming in just over at 16,914.
From YVR it does seem pretty difficult to visit anything too far south / east in the Pacific and go back through Europe.
For MRU: MRU-JNB-IST-ZRH-YUL-YVR is only 13660 so should be a fair few options there.
Jul 20, 2019, 2:31 pm
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Was hoping to try either the DPS - IST on the new TK 787 J and / or LIS - SFO on TP's A330neo.
But may have to get creative or just suck it up and only fly one!
Jul 22, 2019, 2:50 pm
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What's the best way to find NH fares? I've checked most dates in the next two weeks on the AP site from NRT/HND/KIX -> YVR or NRT/HND/KIX - > SFO or NRT/HND/KIX -> LAX and found nothing from NH, I know NH J supposedly opens up 2 weeks out but I can't find a single reward in the next couple weeks to even confirm they are available. I'm actually trying to return from Japan to YEG sometime the week of Sept 15-19th but I haven't even been able to see any rewards on NH in a 2 week sample period from now.
Should I be using another site to find NH rewards? Only time I've seen any NH flights it was a short economy KIX->HND flight.
Should I be using another site to find NH rewards? Only time I've seen any NH flights it was a short economy KIX->HND flight.
Jul 22, 2019, 7:49 pm
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What's the best way to find NH fares? I've checked most dates in the next two weeks on the AP site from NRT/HND/KIX -> YVR or NRT/HND/KIX - > SFO or NRT/HND/KIX -> LAX and found nothing from NH, I know NH J supposedly opens up 2 weeks out but I can't find a single reward in the next couple weeks to even confirm they are available. I'm actually trying to return from Japan to YEG sometime the week of Sept 15-19th but I haven't even been able to see any rewards on NH in a 2 week sample period from now.
Should I be using another site to find NH rewards? Only time I've seen any NH flights it was a short economy KIX->HND flight.
Should I be using another site to find NH rewards? Only time I've seen any NH flights it was a short economy KIX->HND flight.
Jul 22, 2019, 8:12 pm
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What's the best way to find NH fares? I've checked most dates in the next two weeks on the AP site from NRT/HND/KIX -> YVR or NRT/HND/KIX - > SFO or NRT/HND/KIX -> LAX and found nothing from NH, I know NH J supposedly opens up 2 weeks out but I can't find a single reward in the next couple weeks to even confirm they are available. I'm actually trying to return from Japan to YEG sometime the week of Sept 15-19th but I haven't even been able to see any rewards on NH in a 2 week sample period from now.
Should I be using another site to find NH rewards? Only time I've seen any NH flights it was a short economy KIX->HND flight.
Should I be using another site to find NH rewards? Only time I've seen any NH flights it was a short economy KIX->HND flight.
Easiest way to search for this (aside from EF/KVS) is probably united's award search site, because it allows you to filter for non-stop flights and NH is the only carrier offering HND-YVR non-stops.
Jul 22, 2019, 8:36 pm
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My experiences with NH is that sometimes space appears 2 months out, sometimes 2 weeks out
Equally important, as noted above, find creative routings. I wouldn't expect too much inventory to/from YVR on NH. I've seen the odd spot. But there always seems to be space from IAD (not my first choice) ORD, sometimes SEA and I've seen SJC and rarely SFO. And my searches are really random.
I've done NH F LAX-NRT, NH F NRT-SFO, a couple of regional Asia/SE Asia NH J as part of a larger trip.
I found this 10 days out and booked it. AC to ORD to start and AC from LAX to finish.
Another example: for the last 2 weeks or so, there was a lot of inventory LAX-NRT for July 22 in both J and F and on both of the daily flights.
Equally important, as noted above, find creative routings. I wouldn't expect too much inventory to/from YVR on NH. I've seen the odd spot. But there always seems to be space from IAD (not my first choice) ORD, sometimes SEA and I've seen SJC and rarely SFO. And my searches are really random.
I've done NH F LAX-NRT, NH F NRT-SFO, a couple of regional Asia/SE Asia NH J as part of a larger trip.
I found this 10 days out and booked it. AC to ORD to start and AC from LAX to finish.
Another example: for the last 2 weeks or so, there was a lot of inventory LAX-NRT for July 22 in both J and F and on both of the daily flights.
Jul 26, 2019, 9:28 pm
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After a lot of back and forth, I think I’m getting ready to book this.
YYZ - LIS TAP
LIS - IST TK
IST - HAN TK STOP
HAN - SIN SQ
SIN - DPS SQ STOP
DPS - SIN SQ
SIN - PVG SQ
PVG -YYZ AC
Taxes $400 + $30 booking fee.
Thoughts on this? Not too excited about the AC leg but there doesn’t seem to be anything else available for the return leg.
YYZ - LIS TAP
LIS - IST TK
IST - HAN TK STOP
HAN - SIN SQ
SIN - DPS SQ STOP
DPS - SIN SQ
SIN - PVG SQ
PVG -YYZ AC
Taxes $400 + $30 booking fee.
Thoughts on this? Not too excited about the AC leg but there doesn’t seem to be anything else available for the return leg.
Last edited by ibby; Jul 27, 2019 at 4:50 am