Mini RTW Questions
#6436
Join Date: Dec 2002
Posts: 7,978
IST works for a mini RTW. Don't think you'll have enough mileage to backtrack through VIE.
Any eastbound routings south of HKG will put you over MPM.
IST-HKG space is hard to find though.
I've done IST-ICN-YVR. Beware the fuel surcharges.
Any eastbound routings south of HKG will put you over MPM.
IST-HKG space is hard to find though.
I've done IST-ICN-YVR. Beware the fuel surcharges.
#6437
Join Date: Mar 2019
Programs: Aeroplan
Posts: 98
When you did IST-ICN-YVR was IST your destination? I get 10,266 for the mileage on that route - again beyond the 9920 YVR-IST MPM. Or do I have the YVR-IST MPM number wrong?
#6438
Join Date: Oct 2004
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Posts: 2,312
Fredericton - Auckland (stop) - Perth (stop) + European stop
Is it possible to stop in Europe on a mini rtw routing like this please?
#6440
Join Date: Dec 2002
Posts: 7,978
Thanks for the response. Maybe I'm missing something but I don't track how this would work. Believe MPM for YVR-IST is 9920. When I check the mileage for IST-HKG-YVR I get 11,375 - wouldn't that make it an invalid route?
When you did IST-ICN-YVR was IST your destination? I get 10,266 for the mileage on that route - again beyond the 9920 YVR-IST MPM. Or do I have the YVR-IST MPM number wrong?
When you did IST-ICN-YVR was IST your destination? I get 10,266 for the mileage on that route - again beyond the 9920 YVR-IST MPM. Or do I have the YVR-IST MPM number wrong?
GCMap shows IST-ICN-YVR as 10,043.
IST-LAX MPM is 11,387.
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#6441
Join Date: Jan 2013
Programs: Aeroplan, FlyingBlue
Posts: 289
Why not do YVR-NBO or YVR-SEZ like that guy was doing 2 weeks ako. It's about 14k MPM.
#6443
Join Date: Mar 2019
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Posts: 98
It looks like the only way to make this happen (YVR-Europe 2 returning via Asia) is to make ATH the destination (10097 MPM) and return ATH-IST-PEK-YVR. That return leg at 10034 *just* stays under the MPM. Not thrilled about the YQ we might face with that PEK-YVR final segment on AC but I'm never clear on the scamcharge rules and hoping it doesn't hammer us.
Anyway, going to try for YVR-SFO(UA)-ZRH(LX)-ZRH-CDG(LX)[Stop]-BRU(SN)-FCO(SN)[Stop]-CAI(MS)-ATH(A3)[Dest]-IST(TK)-PEK(TK)-YVR(AC) in J and see what the fees look like!
#6444
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Yes an African destination would increase the MPM of course (JNB is great for YVR) but we won't have the extra miles needed for this trip with J x3.
It looks like the only way to make this happen (YVR-Europe 2 returning via Asia) is to make ATH the destination (10097 MPM) and return ATH-IST-PEK-YVR. That return leg at 10034 *just* stays under the MPM. Not thrilled about the YQ we might face with that PEK-YVR final segment on AC but I'm never clear on the scamcharge rules and hoping it doesn't hammer us.
Anyway, going to try for YVR-SFO(UA)-ZRH(LX)-ZRH-CDG(LX)[Stop]-BRU(SN)-FCO(SN)[Stop]-CAI(MS)-ATH(A3)[Dest]-IST(TK)-PEK(TK)-YVR(AC) in J and see what the fees look like!
It looks like the only way to make this happen (YVR-Europe 2 returning via Asia) is to make ATH the destination (10097 MPM) and return ATH-IST-PEK-YVR. That return leg at 10034 *just* stays under the MPM. Not thrilled about the YQ we might face with that PEK-YVR final segment on AC but I'm never clear on the scamcharge rules and hoping it doesn't hammer us.
Anyway, going to try for YVR-SFO(UA)-ZRH(LX)-ZRH-CDG(LX)[Stop]-BRU(SN)-FCO(SN)[Stop]-CAI(MS)-ATH(A3)[Dest]-IST(TK)-PEK(TK)-YVR(AC) in J and see what the fees look like!
Most likely calculated with an origin of YVR ($510pp)
Can you not do PEK-YVR on CA to save some money?
Also, are you sure they will not use PEK as your destination? It being furthest point for your trip from YVR?
#6445
Join Date: Mar 2019
Programs: Aeroplan
Posts: 98
You will pay for ATH-YVR scamcharge as if it was an AC TATL flight.
Most likely calculated with an origin of YVR ($510pp)
Can you not do PEK-YVR on CA to save some money?
Also, are you sure they will not use PEK as your destination? It being furthest point for your trip from YVR?
Most likely calculated with an origin of YVR ($510pp)
Can you not do PEK-YVR on CA to save some money?
Also, are you sure they will not use PEK as your destination? It being furthest point for your trip from YVR?
We could go on CA though the reviews I've seen seem to indicate it's not a great J experience for a long haul flight.
Pretty sure ATH is actually further away from YVR than PEK is but we'd only be laying over in PEK anyway, not stopping, so it shouldn't end up getting calculated as the destination.
#6446
Join Date: Jan 2013
Programs: Aeroplan, FlyingBlue
Posts: 289
That's what I was worried about for the scamcharges with that last leg on AC.
We could go on CA though the reviews I've seen seem to indicate it's not a great J experience for a long haul flight.
Pretty sure ATH is actually further away from YVR than PEK is but we'd only be laying over in PEK anyway, not stopping, so it shouldn't end up getting calculated as the destination.
We could go on CA though the reviews I've seen seem to indicate it's not a great J experience for a long haul flight.
Pretty sure ATH is actually further away from YVR than PEK is but we'd only be laying over in PEK anyway, not stopping, so it shouldn't end up getting calculated as the destination.
Last edited by Rykoshet; Jun 17, 2019 at 5:07 pm
#6448
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That's what I was worried about for the scamcharges with that last leg on AC.
We could go on CA though the reviews I've seen seem to indicate it's not a great J experience for a long haul flight.
Pretty sure ATH is actually further away from YVR than PEK is but we'd only be laying over in PEK anyway, not stopping, so it shouldn't end up getting calculated as the destination.
We could go on CA though the reviews I've seen seem to indicate it's not a great J experience for a long haul flight.
Pretty sure ATH is actually further away from YVR than PEK is but we'd only be laying over in PEK anyway, not stopping, so it shouldn't end up getting calculated as the destination.
#6449
Join Date: Dec 2007
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Any ideas of a mini rtw from YYJ that could include LH510? Probably wishful thinking!
#6450
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