Mini RTW Questions
May 11, 2019, 5:31 pm
#6301
Join Date: Jan 2013
Programs: Aeroplan, FlyingBlue
Posts: 289
So I just want to confirm before I HUCA multiple times...there's nothing wrong with a completely nonsense routing as long as you stay within the MPM and 2 stops 1 turnaround rules, right?
Like zig-zagging all across europe (ZRH-ARN-CPH-ATH-CAI-IST) on your way to FCO for your first stopover, rather than flying direct.
Like zig-zagging all across europe (ZRH-ARN-CPH-ATH-CAI-IST) on your way to FCO for your first stopover, rather than flying direct.
Last edited by Rykoshet; May 11, 2019 at 5:41 pm
May 11, 2019, 6:17 pm
#6302
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 423
For a BKK-YVR-YYZ-YUL (POT)-YYZ (stop)-YYC (stop)-BKK ticket, I'm assuming this ticket get 2 complimentary checked baggages for the entire trip including the domestic segments?
depending which rule is applied to your ticket (most significant carrier or first marketing segment), you will get at least 1 checked baggage for the entire journey, since it's a ticket from international destination to Canada. you will need to figure the exact routing and carrier to figure that out. or the allowance info should be embedded in the ticket.
How about for a YYC-YYZ-YUL (POT)-YYZ (stop)-YYC? Is there 1 complimentary checked baggage?
no, 0 bag. no free lunch for domestic award.
depending which rule is applied to your ticket (most significant carrier or first marketing segment), you will get at least 1 checked baggage for the entire journey, since it's a ticket from international destination to Canada. you will need to figure the exact routing and carrier to figure that out. or the allowance info should be embedded in the ticket.
How about for a YYC-YYZ-YUL (POT)-YYZ (stop)-YYC? Is there 1 complimentary checked baggage?
no, 0 bag. no free lunch for domestic award.
After booking the AP award ticket, we're supposed to call either AP or AC to make sure the Visa is somehow linked to the AP award ticket?
May 11, 2019, 6:21 pm
#6303
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Toronto, ON
Programs: AC 75K
Posts: 6,363
So I just want to confirm before I HUCA multiple times...there's nothing wrong with a completely nonsense routing as long as you stay within the MPM and 2 stops 1 turnaround rules, right?
Like zig-zagging all across europe (ZRH-ARN-CPH-ATH-CAI-IST) on your way to FCO for your first stopover, rather than flying direct.
Like zig-zagging all across europe (ZRH-ARN-CPH-ATH-CAI-IST) on your way to FCO for your first stopover, rather than flying direct.
May 11, 2019, 6:23 pm
#6304
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: In the air
Programs: Occasional RTW club
Posts: 6,924
So I just want to confirm before I HUCA multiple times...there's nothing wrong with a completely nonsense routing as long as you stay within the MPM and 2 stops 1 turnaround rules, right?
Like zig-zagging all across europe (ZRH-ARN-CPH-ATH-CAI-IST) on your way to FCO for your first stopover, rather than flying direct.
Like zig-zagging all across europe (ZRH-ARN-CPH-ATH-CAI-IST) on your way to FCO for your first stopover, rather than flying direct.
No problem as long as within MPM and a collaborative agent.
May 11, 2019, 6:25 pm
#6305
Join Date: Jan 2013
Programs: Aeroplan, FlyingBlue
Posts: 289
Just catching up on the travel I missed out earlier in life. I got a great agent and we nearly booked this monstrosity, but AP is again showing phantom availability, this time on key SQ routes. Between that and NZ never releasing reward seats in business, it makes routing Australia/NZ very hard.
May 11, 2019, 6:26 pm
#6306
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Canada
Programs: UA*1K MM SK EBG LATAM BL
Posts: 23,305
Each of these cities will cost like $50 in tax just to transit, and it will all be euro-biz coach seating except for maybe TK.
May 11, 2019, 10:50 pm
#6308
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: May 2015
Location: BOS, YVR, ZRH
Programs: *G
Posts: 17,399
May 12, 2019, 12:16 am
#6309
Join Date: May 2017
Location: YEG, SFO, VCA, JR JY-13
Programs: hahaha
Posts: 921
OK. From my past experience and what I've read somewhere, people with TD AP Infinite Visa sometimes have trouble getting into MLL or getting a complimentary checked bag when on an AP award ticket.
After booking the AP award ticket, we're supposed to call either AP or AC to make sure the Visa is somehow linked to the AP award ticket?
After booking the AP award ticket, we're supposed to call either AP or AC to make sure the Visa is somehow linked to the AP award ticket?
May 12, 2019, 6:44 am
#6310
Join Date: Jan 2013
Programs: Aeroplan, FlyingBlue
Posts: 289
There are lots of SQ J phantom fares (eg, FCO-SIN) that disappear when you try to book. They have availability in Economy. Any experience if it's better to book it in Economy and hope for the best (flying in Nov) or if I should re-route the trip.
I'd much rather fly the SQ A350 than a TK 777 long-haul personally.
I'd much rather fly the SQ A350 than a TK 777 long-haul personally.
May 12, 2019, 7:07 am
#6311
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: In the air
Programs: Occasional RTW club
Posts: 6,924
There are lots of SQ J phantom fares (eg, FCO-SIN) that disappear when you try to book. They have availability in Economy. Any experience if it's better to book it in Economy and hope for the best (flying in Nov) or if I should re-route the trip.
I'd much rather fly the SQ A350 than a TK 777 long-haul personally.
I'd much rather fly the SQ A350 than a TK 777 long-haul personally.
I think there’s potentially some SIN - NZ availability in J sometimes - maybe CHC or something. Try to look. I know SQ F came up at one point.
May 12, 2019, 7:15 am
#6312
Join Date: Jan 2013
Programs: Aeroplan, FlyingBlue
Posts: 289
Do not “hope for the best” with SQ - barring a few mistake filings they did in the past, they never release their premium award space on routes that matter. And I’d much rather be in TK J than SQ Y.
I think there’s potentially some SIN - NZ availability in J sometimes - maybe CHC or something. Try to look. I know SQ F came up at one point.
I am seeing SIN-AKL a few times, but as my turnaround point is PER and NZ is even stingier with their J space then SQ, I'm unable to take advantage of it. I've searched far and wide for all the usual NZ routings (CHC, WLG, AKL, DUN) into PER, SYD, MEL, and BNE and there's nothing.
I had perfect yyz-yul-zrh-arn-cph-ath-cai-ist-fco-sin-per-sin-dps-bkk-icn-tpe-yyz itinerary lined up, which is great because at FCO, my first stop, I'd fly home for 4 months, then fly back months later to continue the journey. I can drop a leg and make IST the turnaround to allow for an IST-JKT-SIN routing which is available in J, but flights home from IST are much more expensive than from FCO, and I really want to spend a few days in Rome.
Back to the drawing board
May 12, 2019, 10:47 am
#6313
Join Date: Mar 2019
Programs: Aeroplan
Posts: 99
Thanks.
I am seeing SIN-AKL a few times, but as my turnaround point is PER and NZ is even stingier with their J space then SQ, I'm unable to take advantage of it. I've searched far and wide for all the usual NZ routings (CHC, WLG, AKL, DUN) into PER, SYD, MEL, and BNE and there's nothing.
I had perfect yyz-yul-zrh-arn-cph-ath-cai-ist-fco-sin-per-sin-dps-bkk-icn-tpe-yyz itinerary lined up, which is great because at FCO, my first stop, I'd fly home for 4 months, then fly back months later to continue the journey. I can drop a leg and make IST the turnaround to allow for an IST-JKT-SIN routing which is available in J, but flights home from IST are much more expensive than from FCO, and I really want to spend a few days in Rome.
Back to the drawing board
I am seeing SIN-AKL a few times, but as my turnaround point is PER and NZ is even stingier with their J space then SQ, I'm unable to take advantage of it. I've searched far and wide for all the usual NZ routings (CHC, WLG, AKL, DUN) into PER, SYD, MEL, and BNE and there's nothing.
I had perfect yyz-yul-zrh-arn-cph-ath-cai-ist-fco-sin-per-sin-dps-bkk-icn-tpe-yyz itinerary lined up, which is great because at FCO, my first stop, I'd fly home for 4 months, then fly back months later to continue the journey. I can drop a leg and make IST the turnaround to allow for an IST-JKT-SIN routing which is available in J, but flights home from IST are much more expensive than from FCO, and I really want to spend a few days in Rome.
Back to the drawing board
May 12, 2019, 11:00 am
#6314
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: toronto
Posts: 914
I am undecided on this....What does people think, would you take an economy flight if it means getting into a location 7 hours earlier, and save about $600 in surcharge?
I am trying to book a YYZ to DPS this christmas. I am able to find a Biz tickets with YYZ-MUC-IST-DPS, with Turkish Air, but that gets me into DPS at 7pm.
However, I can also go YYZ-Shanghai on Biz with Air Canada, then Shanghai to Singaore with Singapore Air, on Economy (5 hour flight), then Singapore to DPS on Singapore Air on Biz, which gets me to DPS at 11am, giving me almost a full day in DPS. Where as Turkish Air I am 'wasting' my first full day.
Also, the Shanghai to Singapore flight is at midnight.....a part of me just want to suck it up, and take the economy and sleep through the 5 hours.???
I am trying to book a YYZ to DPS this christmas. I am able to find a Biz tickets with YYZ-MUC-IST-DPS, with Turkish Air, but that gets me into DPS at 7pm.
However, I can also go YYZ-Shanghai on Biz with Air Canada, then Shanghai to Singaore with Singapore Air, on Economy (5 hour flight), then Singapore to DPS on Singapore Air on Biz, which gets me to DPS at 11am, giving me almost a full day in DPS. Where as Turkish Air I am 'wasting' my first full day.
Also, the Shanghai to Singapore flight is at midnight.....a part of me just want to suck it up, and take the economy and sleep through the 5 hours.???
May 12, 2019, 11:35 am
#6315
Join Date: Jan 2013
Programs: Aeroplan, FlyingBlue
Posts: 289
I am undecided on this....What does people think, would you take an economy flight if it means getting into a location 7 hours earlier, and save about $600 in surcharge?
I am trying to book a YYZ to DPS this christmas. I am able to find a Biz tickets with YYZ-MUC-IST-DPS, with Turkish Air, but that gets me into DPS at 7pm.
However, I can also go YYZ-Shanghai on Biz with Air Canada, then Shanghai to Singaore with Singapore Air, on Economy (5 hour flight), then Singapore to DPS on Singapore Air on Biz, which gets me to DPS at 11am, giving me almost a full day in DPS. Where as Turkish Air I am 'wasting' my first full day.
Also, the Shanghai to Singapore flight is at midnight.....a part of me just want to suck it up, and take the economy and sleep through the 5 hours.???
I am trying to book a YYZ to DPS this christmas. I am able to find a Biz tickets with YYZ-MUC-IST-DPS, with Turkish Air, but that gets me into DPS at 7pm.
However, I can also go YYZ-Shanghai on Biz with Air Canada, then Shanghai to Singaore with Singapore Air, on Economy (5 hour flight), then Singapore to DPS on Singapore Air on Biz, which gets me to DPS at 11am, giving me almost a full day in DPS. Where as Turkish Air I am 'wasting' my first full day.
Also, the Shanghai to Singapore flight is at midnight.....a part of me just want to suck it up, and take the economy and sleep through the 5 hours.???
Nothing BKK-DPS available on Thai? Or TPE-DPS on EVA?