Mini RTW Questions
#5806
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Join Date: May 2015
Location: BOS, YVR, ZRH
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I am looking at YYZ-x-SIN-CDG-YYZ, , I am noticing the only direct flight between SIN-CDG is SQ, however, there seems to be no business class award on even the latest released days?
Is the only option transfer through IST for business class?
I am noticing roughly 770 CAD in YQ just for SIN-CDG-YYZ in business, while 491CAD if I chose SQ economy for the SIN-CDG leg (same business class flights on other legs).
Is the only option transfer through IST for business class?
I am noticing roughly 770 CAD in YQ just for SIN-CDG-YYZ in business, while 491CAD if I chose SQ economy for the SIN-CDG leg (same business class flights on other legs).
you can also connect through BKK, FRA or ZRH.
#5807
Join Date: May 2018
Location: YYZ
Programs: AA Plat, Bonvoy Titanium, Hilton Diamond, Golden Circle Jade
Posts: 126
Thanks, I do see the SQ business for SIN-IST, and there are plenty of flights IST-CDG. Searches done through AP website.
However, I assume it is normal for me to not be able to search SIN-IST-CDG as a multi city award on AP?
Thanks for the other suggestions, I will look into them.
Another Q, is there a known way to avoid the YQ from CDG -> YYZ on the way home? I can only find AC flights for this segment. Connecting through FRA does not show any award space on lufthansa on any date for FRA-YYZ.
However, I assume it is normal for me to not be able to search SIN-IST-CDG as a multi city award on AP?
Thanks for the other suggestions, I will look into them.
Another Q, is there a known way to avoid the YQ from CDG -> YYZ on the way home? I can only find AC flights for this segment. Connecting through FRA does not show any award space on lufthansa on any date for FRA-YYZ.
#5808
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Toronto, ON
Programs: AC 75K
Posts: 6,358
Thanks, I do see the SQ business for SIN-IST, and there are plenty of flights IST-CDG. Searches done through AP website.
However, I assume it is normal for me to not be able to search SIN-IST-CDG as a multi city award on AP?
Thanks for the other suggestions, I will look into them.
Another Q, is there a known way to avoid the YQ from CDG -> YYZ on the way home? I can only find AC flights for this segment. Connecting through FRA does not show any award space on lufthansa on any date for FRA-YYZ.
However, I assume it is normal for me to not be able to search SIN-IST-CDG as a multi city award on AP?
Thanks for the other suggestions, I will look into them.
Another Q, is there a known way to avoid the YQ from CDG -> YYZ on the way home? I can only find AC flights for this segment. Connecting through FRA does not show any award space on lufthansa on any date for FRA-YYZ.
In order to avoid YQ for CDG-YYZ, you need to find a low YQ airline. Some options: route through the US on United, connect in WAW on LOT, or fly LX via ZRH (connecting in the US or YUL). Lots of threads in this board on strategies to lower YQ
#5809
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: YLW
Programs: Alaska,Aeroplan, Aegean, BA Executive
Posts: 18
So we booked our first m-RTW on Sunday night (huzzah!). Departure from YVR, it includes stops in Florida, then Germany, with Athens as destination. We fly back to YVR with quick layovers, all in J
However, it's now Thursday and I have yet to receive an Aeroplan confirmation email or e-Ticket. Is this normal..??
My redemption is found on the aeroplan site, and it's marked as "TICKETED". I can also find the itinerary on all partner airlines' sites (AC, LX, TK). I was able to select meals and seats for each leg.
I have called aeroplan every day and asked them resend the email confirmation and eticket, we have even tried different addresses (gmail, yahoo, work email, etc...). Still confirmation or eticket.
Should I be concerned..?
However, it's now Thursday and I have yet to receive an Aeroplan confirmation email or e-Ticket. Is this normal..??
My redemption is found on the aeroplan site, and it's marked as "TICKETED". I can also find the itinerary on all partner airlines' sites (AC, LX, TK). I was able to select meals and seats for each leg.
I have called aeroplan every day and asked them resend the email confirmation and eticket, we have even tried different addresses (gmail, yahoo, work email, etc...). Still confirmation or eticket.
Should I be concerned..?
#5810
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: West
Posts: 3,357
So we booked our first m-RTW on Sunday night (huzzah!). Departure from YVR, it includes stops in Florida, then Germany, with Athens as destination. We fly back to YVR with quick layovers, all in J
However, it's now Thursday and I have yet to receive an Aeroplan confirmation email or e-Ticket. Is this normal..??
My redemption is found on the aeroplan site, and it's marked as "TICKETED". I can also find the itinerary on all partner airlines' sites (AC, LX, TK). I was able to select meals and seats for each leg.
I have called aeroplan every day and asked them resend the email confirmation and eticket, we have even tried different addresses (gmail, yahoo, work email, etc...). Still confirmation or eticket.
Should I be concerned..?
However, it's now Thursday and I have yet to receive an Aeroplan confirmation email or e-Ticket. Is this normal..??
My redemption is found on the aeroplan site, and it's marked as "TICKETED". I can also find the itinerary on all partner airlines' sites (AC, LX, TK). I was able to select meals and seats for each leg.
I have called aeroplan every day and asked them resend the email confirmation and eticket, we have even tried different addresses (gmail, yahoo, work email, etc...). Still confirmation or eticket.
Should I be concerned..?
#5811
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: YLW
Programs: Alaska,Aeroplan, Aegean, BA Executive
Posts: 18
I would be concerned with you being reluctant to call the agent. How did you booked the itinerary? Must have been via call center. What did an agent say? I had the 3 stop trip booked to Europe via agent few days ago and received a confirmation on one ticket as the agent was still talking and booking the second ticket. I was told the confirmation for the second person was coming in the few minutes, and when it did not, I called and the second agent pushed the process (button) and it came as we were exchanging pleasantries.
#5812
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: West
Posts: 3,357
Keep at it. Call all carriers for confirmation and get its' printouts of e tickets, itinerary etc. And you will fine, but pissed off.
#5813
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Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: SFO
Programs: AC SE MM, BA Gold, SQ Silver, Bonvoy Tit LTG, Hyatt Glob, HH Diamond
Posts: 44,302
How does it differ from a booking with a destination and two stopovers?
#5814
It doesn’t differ. just that a miniRTW intentionally sets up the return over a different ocean from the outbound, making it a round the world trip. Differing from a true RTW, you can’t stop seven times en route.
#5815
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I mean would SFO-YVR-YYZ-SFO be a mini RTW? Clearly not. If the definition is "TATL and TPAC" or similar, fine. But then it's not just "three stops", which can easily be done on one continent.
Heck, I'm not even sure I'd consider SFO-NRT-SIN-BKK-SFO a "mini RTW", even if routed back via Europe. My impression over the years was always that it needed stops in two different continents than the origin, but maybe I was mistaken.
#5816
So YVR-Florida-Germany-ATH-YVR, clearly not crossing two oceans, would not be a mini RTW then?
I mean would SFO-YVR-YYZ-SFO be a mini RTW? Clearly not. If the definition is "TATL and TPAC" or similar, fine. But then it's not just "three stops", which can easily be done on one continent.
Heck, I'm not even sure I'd consider SFO-NRT-SIN-BKK-SFO a "mini RTW", even if routed back via Europe. My impression over the years was always that it needed stops in two different continents than the origin, but maybe I was mistaken.
I mean would SFO-YVR-YYZ-SFO be a mini RTW? Clearly not. If the definition is "TATL and TPAC" or similar, fine. But then it's not just "three stops", which can easily be done on one continent.
Heck, I'm not even sure I'd consider SFO-NRT-SIN-BKK-SFO a "mini RTW", even if routed back via Europe. My impression over the years was always that it needed stops in two different continents than the origin, but maybe I was mistaken.
Btw, SFO YVR YYZ SFO would not allow two stops so that wouldn’t work for even a mis-nomered mini-RTW
#5817
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Canada
Programs: *void
Posts: 2,408
The classical definition if you scroll back ten years into this thread (or the pre-deval one) was, indeed, three continents at minimum - typically North America to Europe to Asia and back, though many got Africa and Australia into it, and even South America back when YYZ-PER had a 20,000 MPM. I think people have gotten busier and have less free time, so more or less anything goes these days.
Btw, SFO YVR YYZ SFO would not allow two stops so that wouldn’t work for even a mis-nomered mini-RTW
#5818
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: YVR
Programs: OZ Diamond, Jiffypark Manhattan Gold
Posts: 4,485
Can anyone tell me if HKG & SZX are interchangeable? Also ITM & KIX?
I feel like sometimes it's just a YMMV situation, because I swear I was told EWR was not "same city" (or whatever it's called) as LGA/JFK but then I think I've seen other people post to the contrary. I'm gonna guess that HKG/SZX are not, but does anyone actually know? ITM & KIX I would hope are, but it's much less important to me.
I feel like sometimes it's just a YMMV situation, because I swear I was told EWR was not "same city" (or whatever it's called) as LGA/JFK but then I think I've seen other people post to the contrary. I'm gonna guess that HKG/SZX are not, but does anyone actually know? ITM & KIX I would hope are, but it's much less important to me.
#5820
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: YVR to SEA
Posts: 2,532
Can anyone tell me if HKG & SZX are interchangeable? Also ITM & KIX?
I feel like sometimes it's just a YMMV situation, because I swear I was told EWR was not "same city" (or whatever it's called) as LGA/JFK but then I think I've seen other people post to the contrary. I'm gonna guess that HKG/SZX are not, but does anyone actually know? ITM & KIX I would hope are, but it's much less important to me.
I feel like sometimes it's just a YMMV situation, because I swear I was told EWR was not "same city" (or whatever it's called) as LGA/JFK but then I think I've seen other people post to the contrary. I'm gonna guess that HKG/SZX are not, but does anyone actually know? ITM & KIX I would hope are, but it's much less important to me.
Hong Kong and Shenzhen have completely different visa requirements.