Mini RTW Questions
#5071
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: YEG
Programs: Marriott TE, AC75K
Posts: 53
I currently have a 4-person J class multi-city itinerary booked for August 2018 with IAH as the origin city, heading to MUC and onwards.
I'm looking to add YYC-IAH onto the beginning (and end) of the trip and am running into a weird scenario. I won't be able to snag 4 YYC-IAH seats in J and am fine travelling Y for that segment.
Using UA, AE and EF award searches I've found the following:
If I search the YYC-IAH segment only, it shows no Y (X) reward space available on UA for the flight I need to take in order to make my CNX at IAH.
However, if I search YYC-MUC, it shows Y (X) reward space on both the YYC-IAH-MUC flights. I already have IAH-MUC booked in J (I), so will the Y (X) reward space on the YYC-IAH flight be available for me to add if I'm only adding the one segment?
Is there a difference in Y (X) reward availability on direct/domestic UA flight itineraries vs 1-stop/international UA flight itineraries to Europe?
I'm just waiting for the UA award space to become available for my return flight in the next few days before I phone in and try to make these changes.
I'm looking to add YYC-IAH onto the beginning (and end) of the trip and am running into a weird scenario. I won't be able to snag 4 YYC-IAH seats in J and am fine travelling Y for that segment.
Using UA, AE and EF award searches I've found the following:
If I search the YYC-IAH segment only, it shows no Y (X) reward space available on UA for the flight I need to take in order to make my CNX at IAH.
However, if I search YYC-MUC, it shows Y (X) reward space on both the YYC-IAH-MUC flights. I already have IAH-MUC booked in J (I), so will the Y (X) reward space on the YYC-IAH flight be available for me to add if I'm only adding the one segment?
Is there a difference in Y (X) reward availability on direct/domestic UA flight itineraries vs 1-stop/international UA flight itineraries to Europe?
I'm just waiting for the UA award space to become available for my return flight in the next few days before I phone in and try to make these changes.
#5072
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: YVR
Posts: 1,076
Which Route Would You Take?
Hello fellow FTers, I have slight dilemma, and was hoping I'd get some opinions.
Basically, I'm planning a trip to the Maldives and have 2 potential routing options.
Route 1:
YVR-YYZ (AC J)
YYZ-EWR (AC J)
EWR-WAW (LO J)
WAW-CDG (LO J) (STOP)
CDG-IST (TK J)
IST-MLE (TK J) (DEST)
MLE-SIN (SQ Y)
SIN-BKK (SQ J)
BKK-KIX (TG F) (STOP)
KIX-ICN (OZ J)
ICN-LAX (OZ F)
LAX-YVR (AC J)
Route 2 (due to MPM limitations):
Revenue ticket YVR-YQR
YQR-YYZ (AC J/Y)
YYZ-ORD (AC J)
ORD-FRA (UA J)
FRA-CDG (LH J) (STOP)
CDG-MUC (LH J)
MUC-BKK (TG F)
BKK-CMB (TG J) (DEST)
Revenue ticket CMB-MLE-CMB
CMB-BKK (TG J)
BKK-KIX (TG F) (STOP)
KIX-ICN (OZ J)
ICN-LAX (OZ F)
LAX-YVR (AC J)
YVR-YQR (AC J/Y)
Revenue ticket YQR-YVR
TLDR:
Option 1: Start from home (YVR) and end at destination (MLE)
Option 2: Rev tix from YVR-YQR and CMB-MLE, extra segment in F (MUC-BKK)
Having a slightly hard time deciding since this will be my first time in F, but at the same time, not sure if one extra segment in the pointy end of the plane is worth the cost of the 2 RT positioning flights, as well as the potential head-aches associated.
What are some of your thoughts?
Thanks
Basically, I'm planning a trip to the Maldives and have 2 potential routing options.
Route 1:
YVR-YYZ (AC J)
YYZ-EWR (AC J)
EWR-WAW (LO J)
WAW-CDG (LO J) (STOP)
CDG-IST (TK J)
IST-MLE (TK J) (DEST)
MLE-SIN (SQ Y)
SIN-BKK (SQ J)
BKK-KIX (TG F) (STOP)
KIX-ICN (OZ J)
ICN-LAX (OZ F)
LAX-YVR (AC J)
Route 2 (due to MPM limitations):
Revenue ticket YVR-YQR
YQR-YYZ (AC J/Y)
YYZ-ORD (AC J)
ORD-FRA (UA J)
FRA-CDG (LH J) (STOP)
CDG-MUC (LH J)
MUC-BKK (TG F)
BKK-CMB (TG J) (DEST)
Revenue ticket CMB-MLE-CMB
CMB-BKK (TG J)
BKK-KIX (TG F) (STOP)
KIX-ICN (OZ J)
ICN-LAX (OZ F)
LAX-YVR (AC J)
YVR-YQR (AC J/Y)
Revenue ticket YQR-YVR
TLDR:
Option 1: Start from home (YVR) and end at destination (MLE)
Option 2: Rev tix from YVR-YQR and CMB-MLE, extra segment in F (MUC-BKK)
Having a slightly hard time deciding since this will be my first time in F, but at the same time, not sure if one extra segment in the pointy end of the plane is worth the cost of the 2 RT positioning flights, as well as the potential head-aches associated.
What are some of your thoughts?
Thanks
Last edited by pentiumvi; Sep 22, 2017 at 12:08 pm
#5073
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: YYZ
Programs: AC*SE 2MM
Posts: 16,578
You don't specify the airlines for each segment, which will potentially make a difference. If MUC-BKK is LH, then i'd be tempted by option 2. If it is Thai (which I suspect) then Option 1.
#5074
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: YVR
Posts: 1,076
MUC-BKK would be Thai.
Not sure their First is THAT amazing to be worth it. I already have BKK-KIX on TG F (although only medium haul).
OP updated with carrier.
Not sure their First is THAT amazing to be worth it. I already have BKK-KIX on TG F (although only medium haul).
OP updated with carrier.
#5075
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: YYZ
Programs: FOTSG Tangerine Ex E35k (AC)
Posts: 5,612
Personally I'd take option 1 with fewer changes, no potential Y travel and presumably it's cheaper without all the revenue tix. Without knowing the airlines though, no idea if you'd being battered on scam charges though.
#5076
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: YYZ
Programs: AC*SE 2MM
Posts: 16,578
Is it worth the extra points cost to book only 2 or 3 of the segments in F?
(of course you may answer you have more points than you can handle between now and the post-2020 world).
(of course you may answer you have more points than you can handle between now and the post-2020 world).
#5077
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: YVR
Posts: 1,076
Also, given the limited options for F, 3-4 segments seem to be the limit in general (maybe up to 6 going to SYD?)
#5078
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Worldwide
Programs: UA MileagePlus Premier Platinum, HHonors Diamond
Posts: 289
Just curious: How many miles does this type of trip run?
#5080
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Join Date: May 2002
Location: YEG
Programs: HH Silver
Posts: 56,417
#5081
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 4,784
My eyes/brain hurts just looking at the # of segments/transfers of this :P
F is not worth it IMO, especially for so few segments and sky high YQ/fees (have you even priced it out?)
Personally I'd go for fewer segments and J, for basically YVR-CDG, CDG-MLE, MLE-KIX, KIX-YVR
Good luck, take a look at my signature thread also
F is not worth it IMO, especially for so few segments and sky high YQ/fees (have you even priced it out?)
Personally I'd go for fewer segments and J, for basically YVR-CDG, CDG-MLE, MLE-KIX, KIX-YVR
Good luck, take a look at my signature thread also
Route 1:
YVR-YYZ (AC J)
YYZ-EWR (AC J)
EWR-WAW (LO J)
WAW-CDG (LO J) (STOP)
CDG-IST (TK J)
IST-MLE (TK J) (DEST)
MLE-SIN (SQ Y)
SIN-BKK (SQ J)
BKK-KIX (TG F) (STOP)
KIX-ICN (OZ J)
ICN-LAX (OZ F)
LAX-YVR (AC J)
Route 2 (due to MPM limitations):
Revenue ticket YVR-YQR
YQR-YYZ (AC J/Y)
YYZ-ORD (AC J)
ORD-FRA (UA J)
FRA-CDG (LH J) (STOP)
CDG-MUC (LH J)
MUC-BKK (TG F)
BKK-CMB (TG J) (DEST)
Revenue ticket CMB-MLE-CMB
CMB-BKK (TG J)
BKK-KIX (TG F) (STOP)
KIX-ICN (OZ J)
ICN-LAX (OZ F)
LAX-YVR (AC J)
YVR-YQR (AC J/Y)
Revenue ticket YQR-YVR
YVR-YYZ (AC J)
YYZ-EWR (AC J)
EWR-WAW (LO J)
WAW-CDG (LO J) (STOP)
CDG-IST (TK J)
IST-MLE (TK J) (DEST)
MLE-SIN (SQ Y)
SIN-BKK (SQ J)
BKK-KIX (TG F) (STOP)
KIX-ICN (OZ J)
ICN-LAX (OZ F)
LAX-YVR (AC J)
Route 2 (due to MPM limitations):
Revenue ticket YVR-YQR
YQR-YYZ (AC J/Y)
YYZ-ORD (AC J)
ORD-FRA (UA J)
FRA-CDG (LH J) (STOP)
CDG-MUC (LH J)
MUC-BKK (TG F)
BKK-CMB (TG J) (DEST)
Revenue ticket CMB-MLE-CMB
CMB-BKK (TG J)
BKK-KIX (TG F) (STOP)
KIX-ICN (OZ J)
ICN-LAX (OZ F)
LAX-YVR (AC J)
YVR-YQR (AC J/Y)
Revenue ticket YQR-YVR
#5082
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: YVR
Posts: 1,076
My eyes/brain hurts just looking at the # of segments/transfers of this :P
F is not worth it IMO, especially for so few segments and sky high YQ/fees (have you even priced it out?)
Personally I'd go for fewer segments and J, for basically YVR-CDG, CDG-MLE, MLE-KIX, KIX-YVR
Good luck, take a look at my signature thread also
F is not worth it IMO, especially for so few segments and sky high YQ/fees (have you even priced it out?)
Personally I'd go for fewer segments and J, for basically YVR-CDG, CDG-MLE, MLE-KIX, KIX-YVR
Good luck, take a look at my signature thread also
I'm going to forget about route option 2. It hurts my head to think about the extra flights.
#5083
Join Date: Sep 2017
Posts: 2
Is this route valid?
Hi all! I'm trying to plan my honeymoon and have been saving up miles for a couple of years! It'll be our first time flying business class and we'd like to stop in NYC and London for a few nights if possible before ending up in our final destination, the Maldives.
I'd appreciate any help with the following RTW and whether or not this would be valid. Had some trouble calculating the mileage.
YVR - EWR AC J (Stop)
EWR - LHR UA J (Stop)
LHR - ZHR LX J
ZHR - DEL LX J
DEL - MLE AI J (Dest)
MLE - DEL AI J
DEL - ICN OZ J
ICN - YVR AC J
I'd appreciate any help with the following RTW and whether or not this would be valid. Had some trouble calculating the mileage.
YVR - EWR AC J (Stop)
EWR - LHR UA J (Stop)
LHR - ZHR LX J
ZHR - DEL LX J
DEL - MLE AI J (Dest)
MLE - DEL AI J
DEL - ICN OZ J
ICN - YVR AC J
#5084
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Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Canada
Programs: UA*1K MM
Posts: 23,273
Hi all! I'm trying to plan my honeymoon and have been saving up miles for a couple of years! It'll be our first time flying business class and we'd like to stop in NYC and London for a few nights if possible before ending up in our final destination, the Maldives.
I'd appreciate any help with the following RTW and whether or not this would be valid. Had some trouble calculating the mileage.
YVR - EWR AC J (Stop)
EWR - LHR UA J (Stop)
LHR - ZHR LX J
ZHR - DEL LX J
DEL - MLE AI J (Dest)
MLE - DEL AI J
DEL - ICN OZ J
ICN - YVR AC J
I'd appreciate any help with the following RTW and whether or not this would be valid. Had some trouble calculating the mileage.
YVR - EWR AC J (Stop)
EWR - LHR UA J (Stop)
LHR - ZHR LX J
ZHR - DEL LX J
DEL - MLE AI J (Dest)
MLE - DEL AI J
DEL - ICN OZ J
ICN - YVR AC J
According to our thread http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/air-c...seudo-mpm.html, your mileage allowed is 14720 on YVR-MLE, which both your routes are way under.
You will pay over $600 in fees, because your return in on AC longhaul
#5085
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Join Date: May 2015
Location: BOS, YVR, ZRH
Programs: *G
Posts: 17,290
Hi all! I'm trying to plan my honeymoon and have been saving up miles for a couple of years! It'll be our first time flying business class and we'd like to stop in NYC and London for a few nights if possible before ending up in our final destination, the Maldives.
I'd appreciate any help with the following RTW and whether or not this would be valid. Had some trouble calculating the mileage.
YVR - EWR AC J (Stop)
EWR - LHR UA J (Stop)
LHR - ZHR LX J
ZHR - DEL LX J
DEL - MLE AI J (Dest)
MLE - DEL AI J
DEL - ICN OZ J
ICN - YVR AC J
I'd appreciate any help with the following RTW and whether or not this would be valid. Had some trouble calculating the mileage.
YVR - EWR AC J (Stop)
EWR - LHR UA J (Stop)
LHR - ZHR LX J
ZHR - DEL LX J
DEL - MLE AI J (Dest)
MLE - DEL AI J
DEL - ICN OZ J
ICN - YVR AC J
Last edited by Smiley90; Sep 26, 2017 at 1:17 pm