Mini RTW Questions

Old Sep 11, 2017, 12:44 am
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I currently have a 4-person J class multi-city itinerary booked for August 2018 with IAH as the origin city, heading to MUC and onwards.

I'm looking to add YYC-IAH onto the beginning (and end) of the trip and am running into a weird scenario. I won't be able to snag 4 YYC-IAH seats in J and am fine travelling Y for that segment.

Using UA, AE and EF award searches I've found the following:

If I search the YYC-IAH segment only, it shows no Y (X) reward space available on UA for the flight I need to take in order to make my CNX at IAH.

However, if I search YYC-MUC, it shows Y (X) reward space on both the YYC-IAH-MUC flights. I already have IAH-MUC booked in J (I), so will the Y (X) reward space on the YYC-IAH flight be available for me to add if I'm only adding the one segment?

Is there a difference in Y (X) reward availability on direct/domestic UA flight itineraries vs 1-stop/international UA flight itineraries to Europe?

I'm just waiting for the UA award space to become available for my return flight in the next few days before I phone in and try to make these changes.
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Old Sep 22, 2017, 11:40 am
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Which Route Would You Take?

Hello fellow FTers, I have slight dilemma, and was hoping I'd get some opinions.

Basically, I'm planning a trip to the Maldives and have 2 potential routing options.

Route 1:
YVR-YYZ (AC J)
YYZ-EWR (AC J)
EWR-WAW (LO J)
WAW-CDG (LO J) (STOP)
CDG-IST (TK J)
IST-MLE (TK J) (DEST)
MLE-SIN (SQ Y)
SIN-BKK (SQ J)
BKK-KIX (TG F) (STOP)
KIX-ICN (OZ J)
ICN-LAX (OZ F)
LAX-YVR (AC J)

Route 2 (due to MPM limitations):
Revenue ticket YVR-YQR
YQR-YYZ (AC J/Y)
YYZ-ORD (AC J)
ORD-FRA (UA J)
FRA-CDG (LH J) (STOP)
CDG-MUC (LH J)
MUC-BKK (TG F)
BKK-CMB (TG J) (DEST)
Revenue ticket CMB-MLE-CMB
CMB-BKK (TG J)
BKK-KIX (TG F) (STOP)
KIX-ICN (OZ J)
ICN-LAX (OZ F)
LAX-YVR (AC J)
YVR-YQR (AC J/Y)
Revenue ticket YQR-YVR

TLDR:
Option 1: Start from home (YVR) and end at destination (MLE)
Option 2: Rev tix from YVR-YQR and CMB-MLE, extra segment in F (MUC-BKK)

Having a slightly hard time deciding since this will be my first time in F, but at the same time, not sure if one extra segment in the pointy end of the plane is worth the cost of the 2 RT positioning flights, as well as the potential head-aches associated.

What are some of your thoughts?

Thanks

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Old Sep 22, 2017, 11:52 am
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You don't specify the airlines for each segment, which will potentially make a difference. If MUC-BKK is LH, then i'd be tempted by option 2. If it is Thai (which I suspect) then Option 1.
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Old Sep 22, 2017, 12:06 pm
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MUC-BKK would be Thai.

Not sure their First is THAT amazing to be worth it. I already have BKK-KIX on TG F (although only medium haul).

OP updated with carrier.
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Old Sep 22, 2017, 12:10 pm
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Personally I'd take option 1 with fewer changes, no potential Y travel and presumably it's cheaper without all the revenue tix. Without knowing the airlines though, no idea if you'd being battered on scam charges though.
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Old Sep 22, 2017, 12:38 pm
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Is it worth the extra points cost to book only 2 or 3 of the segments in F?

(of course you may answer you have more points than you can handle between now and the post-2020 world).
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Old Sep 22, 2017, 1:01 pm
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Originally Posted by The Lev
Is it worth the extra points cost to book only 2 or 3 of the segments in F?

(of course you may answer you have more points than you can handle between now and the post-2020 world).
I've debated that question myself. I have enough points for F right now, but if I were to redeem for J instead, I'm not sure I'd accumulate enough points for a F redepemtion before 2020.

Also, given the limited options for F, 3-4 segments seem to be the limit in general (maybe up to 6 going to SYD?)
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Old Sep 22, 2017, 2:30 pm
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Just curious: How many miles does this type of trip run?
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Old Sep 22, 2017, 2:56 pm
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210k per person round-trip.
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Old Sep 22, 2017, 3:11 pm
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Exclamation

Originally Posted by pentiumvi
Which Route Would You Take?
Please note that several posts have been merged into the Mini-RTW Questions thread.

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Old Sep 22, 2017, 8:26 pm
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My eyes/brain hurts just looking at the # of segments/transfers of this :P

F is not worth it IMO, especially for so few segments and sky high YQ/fees (have you even priced it out?)
Personally I'd go for fewer segments and J, for basically YVR-CDG, CDG-MLE, MLE-KIX, KIX-YVR
Good luck, take a look at my signature thread also

Route 1:
YVR-YYZ (AC J)
YYZ-EWR (AC J)
EWR-WAW (LO J)
WAW-CDG (LO J) (STOP)
CDG-IST (TK J)
IST-MLE (TK J) (DEST)
MLE-SIN (SQ Y)
SIN-BKK (SQ J)
BKK-KIX (TG F) (STOP)
KIX-ICN (OZ J)
ICN-LAX (OZ F)
LAX-YVR (AC J)

Route 2 (due to MPM limitations):
Revenue ticket YVR-YQR
YQR-YYZ (AC J/Y)
YYZ-ORD (AC J)
ORD-FRA (UA J)
FRA-CDG (LH J) (STOP)
CDG-MUC (LH J)
MUC-BKK (TG F)
BKK-CMB (TG J) (DEST)
Revenue ticket CMB-MLE-CMB
CMB-BKK (TG J)
BKK-KIX (TG F) (STOP)
KIX-ICN (OZ J)
ICN-LAX (OZ F)
LAX-YVR (AC J)
YVR-YQR (AC J/Y)
Revenue ticket YQR-YVR
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Old Sep 23, 2017, 2:21 am
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Originally Posted by jerryhung
My eyes/brain hurts just looking at the # of segments/transfers of this :P

F is not worth it IMO, especially for so few segments and sky high YQ/fees (have you even priced it out?)
Personally I'd go for fewer segments and J, for basically YVR-CDG, CDG-MLE, MLE-KIX, KIX-YVR
Good luck, take a look at my signature thread also
Route 1 prices out to about $390 per person.

I'm going to forget about route option 2. It hurts my head to think about the extra flights.
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Old Sep 26, 2017, 4:56 am
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Is this route valid?

Hi all! I'm trying to plan my honeymoon and have been saving up miles for a couple of years! It'll be our first time flying business class and we'd like to stop in NYC and London for a few nights if possible before ending up in our final destination, the Maldives.

I'd appreciate any help with the following RTW and whether or not this would be valid. Had some trouble calculating the mileage.

YVR - EWR AC J (Stop)
EWR - LHR UA J (Stop)
LHR - ZHR LX J
ZHR - DEL LX J
DEL - MLE AI J (Dest)
MLE - DEL AI J
DEL - ICN OZ J
ICN - YVR AC J
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Old Sep 26, 2017, 8:23 am
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Originally Posted by teestar
Hi all! I'm trying to plan my honeymoon and have been saving up miles for a couple of years! It'll be our first time flying business class and we'd like to stop in NYC and London for a few nights if possible before ending up in our final destination, the Maldives.

I'd appreciate any help with the following RTW and whether or not this would be valid. Had some trouble calculating the mileage.

YVR - EWR AC J (Stop)
EWR - LHR UA J (Stop)
LHR - ZHR LX J
ZHR - DEL LX J
DEL - MLE AI J (Dest)
MLE - DEL AI J
DEL - ICN OZ J
ICN - YVR AC J
That's because you cannot caluculate the mileage. Its a random number made up by Aeroplan.
According to our thread http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/air-c...seudo-mpm.html, your mileage allowed is 14720 on YVR-MLE, which both your routes are way under.

You will pay over $600 in fees, because your return in on AC longhaul
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Old Sep 26, 2017, 12:56 pm
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Originally Posted by teestar
Hi all! I'm trying to plan my honeymoon and have been saving up miles for a couple of years! It'll be our first time flying business class and we'd like to stop in NYC and London for a few nights if possible before ending up in our final destination, the Maldives.

I'd appreciate any help with the following RTW and whether or not this would be valid. Had some trouble calculating the mileage.

YVR - EWR AC J (Stop)
EWR - LHR UA J (Stop)
LHR - ZHR LX J
ZHR - DEL LX J
DEL - MLE AI J (Dest)
MLE - DEL AI J
DEL - ICN OZ J
ICN - YVR AC J
edit: I stand corrected, I must've misremembered something. Apologies.

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