Mini RTW Questions
#7006
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 668
It sounds like people are getting ahold of agents now at least? That's a real positive. But this denying segment feeding this is nuts. The whole point of segment feeding was using stopover rules, <24 hours etc, and flying the products you WANT to fly.
Has anyone been told why they aren't allowed to do this? I know there was some speculation this might happen, but I haven't seen any "enhancements" lately. I'm gonna need to make a booking in the next couple weeks and I KNOW the site will force me onto LH and that's nonsense when TK is/will be open.
Has anyone been told why they aren't allowed to do this? I know there was some speculation this might happen, but I haven't seen any "enhancements" lately. I'm gonna need to make a booking in the next couple weeks and I KNOW the site will force me onto LH and that's nonsense when TK is/will be open.
#7007
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: YYJ
Programs: AC SE*MM, Bonvoy LT Plat, HH Gold, National EE, Sixt Plat, Hz 5*
Posts: 2,438
Since the AC acquisition of AE, I have received excellent service from the AE call center as an SE. This is why I asked if SE's are also being denied segment feeding.
I guess there's only one way to find out!
I guess there's only one way to find out!
#7008
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 174
Has anyone been told why they aren't allowed to do this? I know there was some speculation this might happen, but I haven't seen any "enhancements" lately. I'm gonna need to make a booking in the next couple weeks and I KNOW the site will force me onto LH and that's nonsense when TK is/will be open.
I also asked this and I was told some people just enjoy calling in and talking to someone
#7009
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: YVR
Programs: OZ Diamond, Jiffypark Manhattan Gold
Posts: 4,485
I've been told that it was a directive from management not to piece together itineraries. It was apparently "not ticketing and people were getting stuck in limbo" and also "partners did not allow these kinds of routes in their ticketing rules" - both I claim BS but what can you do.....
I also asked this and I was told some people just enjoy calling in and talking to someone
#7010
Join Date: Dec 2019
Location: YQB / YOW
Programs: AE / MR
Posts: 55
Today sounds like it will be a "fun day" as I am actually trying to book and feed segments to replace my existing mRTW booked in August!
Flight schedule looks something like this, though I might be interested to hear what some of you have to say. Obviously it is not gonna work unless I can book segment per segment, but we'll see how it goes...
YOW - IAD / UA Y
IAD - HND / UA J (Stop)
HND - SYD / NH J (Destination)
SYD - ICN / OZ J
ICN - PVG / OZ J
PVG - HEL / HO J
HEL - ARN / SK J
ARN - TXL / SK J (Stop)
TXL - VIE / OS J
VIE - ZRH / OS J
ZRH - YUL / LX J
YUL - YOW AC Y
I know some of those fights are a bit more subpar, but it seems to be the "best" I can setup for if I want to use the layovers and stopovers to my benefit, as well as my limited window for travelling (End of April through Mid June mostly). If anyone has some suggestion feel free to let me know! I am overall quite happy with it. Wish I had some NH availability to HND but I guess it opens a lot closer to travel dates than right now.
Flight schedule looks something like this, though I might be interested to hear what some of you have to say. Obviously it is not gonna work unless I can book segment per segment, but we'll see how it goes...
YOW - IAD / UA Y
IAD - HND / UA J (Stop)
HND - SYD / NH J (Destination)
SYD - ICN / OZ J
ICN - PVG / OZ J
PVG - HEL / HO J
HEL - ARN / SK J
ARN - TXL / SK J (Stop)
TXL - VIE / OS J
VIE - ZRH / OS J
ZRH - YUL / LX J
YUL - YOW AC Y
I know some of those fights are a bit more subpar, but it seems to be the "best" I can setup for if I want to use the layovers and stopovers to my benefit, as well as my limited window for travelling (End of April through Mid June mostly). If anyone has some suggestion feel free to let me know! I am overall quite happy with it. Wish I had some NH availability to HND but I guess it opens a lot closer to travel dates than right now.
#7011
Join Date: May 2018
Location: YYZ
Programs: AA Plat, Bonvoy Titanium, Hilton Diamond, Golden Circle Jade
Posts: 126
Today sounds like it will be a "fun day" as I am actually trying to book and feed segments to replace my existing mRTW booked in August!
Flight schedule looks something like this, though I might be interested to hear what some of you have to say. Obviously it is not gonna work unless I can book segment per segment, but we'll see how it goes...
YOW - IAD / UA Y
IAD - HND / UA J (Stop)
HND - SYD / NH J (Destination)
SYD - ICN / OZ J
ICN - PVG / OZ J
PVG - HEL / HO J
HEL - ARN / SK J
ARN - TXL / SK J (Stop)
TXL - VIE / OS J
VIE - ZRH / OS J
ZRH - YUL / LX J
YUL - YOW AC Y
I know some of those fights are a bit more subpar, but it seems to be the "best" I can setup for if I want to use the layovers and stopovers to my benefit, as well as my limited window for travelling (End of April through Mid June mostly). If anyone has some suggestion feel free to let me know! I am overall quite happy with it. Wish I had some NH availability to HND but I guess it opens a lot closer to travel dates than right now.
Flight schedule looks something like this, though I might be interested to hear what some of you have to say. Obviously it is not gonna work unless I can book segment per segment, but we'll see how it goes...
YOW - IAD / UA Y
IAD - HND / UA J (Stop)
HND - SYD / NH J (Destination)
SYD - ICN / OZ J
ICN - PVG / OZ J
PVG - HEL / HO J
HEL - ARN / SK J
ARN - TXL / SK J (Stop)
TXL - VIE / OS J
VIE - ZRH / OS J
ZRH - YUL / LX J
YUL - YOW AC Y
I know some of those fights are a bit more subpar, but it seems to be the "best" I can setup for if I want to use the layovers and stopovers to my benefit, as well as my limited window for travelling (End of April through Mid June mostly). If anyone has some suggestion feel free to let me know! I am overall quite happy with it. Wish I had some NH availability to HND but I guess it opens a lot closer to travel dates than right now.
SYD-SIN-PVG may save you some YQ and SQ is generally better than OZ. SYD-SIN may be hard to find when I looked for 2 tickets, but it looks like you are traveling alone.
#7012
Join Date: Dec 2019
Location: YQB / YOW
Programs: AE / MR
Posts: 55
Overall very similar trip to mine: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/31584922-post980.html
SYD-SIN-PVG may save you some YQ and SQ is generally better than OZ. SYD-SIN may be hard to find when I looked for 2 tickets, but it looks like you are traveling alone.
SYD-SIN-PVG may save you some YQ and SQ is generally better than OZ. SYD-SIN may be hard to find when I looked for 2 tickets, but it looks like you are traveling alone.
EDIT: it seems that flying SYD-SIN-PVG is not on the table as I would be quite over the MPM on the return leg (15796, clocking in at closer to 16000, unless I find more optimization). Eitherway with the ongoing state of relation between China and Canada, might not be a bad thing to avoid the sector and do a more direct SYD-SIN-IST on little to no YQ.
Last edited by don_drapper; Dec 19, 2019 at 4:09 pm Reason: I don't know how to use a calculator.
#7013
Join Date: May 2018
Location: YYZ
Programs: AA Plat, Bonvoy Titanium, Hilton Diamond, Golden Circle Jade
Posts: 126
Wow interesting trip especially with how low your YQ! To be honest I am fine being in the 800-1000$ in YQ since I'll be burning through other miles I have, but all I can find SYD-SIN-PVG is in Y onboard SQ, and I'd rather book as much as possible right now in J, then before leaving look at J options. I assume you haven't flew it yet? If you have, I'd be really curious to know your experience when you do! 18$ in YQ for a 4,600 miles flight really intrigues me.
EDIT: it seems that flying SYD-SIN-PVG is not on the table as I would be quite over the MPM on the return leg (15796, clocking in at closer to 16000, unless I find more optimization). Eitherway with the ongoing state of relation between China and Canada, might not be a bad thing to avoid the sector and do a more direct SYD-SIN-IST on little to no YQ.
EDIT: it seems that flying SYD-SIN-PVG is not on the table as I would be quite over the MPM on the return leg (15796, clocking in at closer to 16000, unless I find more optimization). Eitherway with the ongoing state of relation between China and Canada, might not be a bad thing to avoid the sector and do a more direct SYD-SIN-IST on little to no YQ.
Yes, MPM gets limiting returning through Europe from Australia I was pretty much maxed out on my MPM on the return leg, despite less Europe destinations than you. And YYZ-MEL has a higher MPM at 16100. Consider SYD-SIN-KUL-IST for the same low YQ if you want to try the new TK 787. I think SIN-IST is still on the old planes.
#7014
Join Date: Dec 2019
Location: YQB / YOW
Programs: AE / MR
Posts: 55
Yes, MPM gets limiting returning through Europe from Australia I was pretty much maxed out on my MPM on the return leg, despite less Europe destinations than you. And YYZ-MEL has a higher MPM at 16100. Consider SYD-SIN-KUL-IST for the same low YQ if you want to try the new TK 787. I think SIN-IST is still on the old planes.
What might end up happening is I might swap SYD for PER, giving me 18,131 from YOW. and quite some room for the Europe stretch, but then what I might be able to save in YQ from more "creative" routings is most likely lost in the cost of flights between SYD and PER. It was so much easier to figure out my first round-Europe trip, probably because I knew that products were not that different.
#7015
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: YYZ
Posts: 379
I have a trip in April and one of my legs yyz to yvr had an aircraft change from a 777 to 321. There is anither flight on the same day with a 777, if i call in to request will i be charged a change fee?
#7016
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Ottawa, ON
Programs: Marriott Plat, Hertz President's Circle, Hilton Gold
Posts: 391
#7017
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Kamloops, BC
Programs: Air Canada-Aeroplan, NEXUS, E50K, Marriott Bonvoy Gold Elite
Posts: 344
#7018
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: YYZ
Posts: 379
Would agree but curious how much of a fight i will have to put up. Worth asking and if i can save the change fee, why not. Will report back later on this. Thanks.
#7019
Join Date: Aug 2019
Location: YVR
Programs: Marriot Gold, Hilton Gold, Aeroplan Black
Posts: 37
I would assume that if the scheduled flight didn't change; then any changes on your segment, regardless of the time of day would be a "change" within your 1-way segment..
It's really up to the airline what aircraft they want to use to fly from point A -> B... but maybe some agent can waive this change this over?
#7020
Join Date: May 2018
Location: YYZ
Programs: AA Plat, Bonvoy Titanium, Hilton Diamond, Golden Circle Jade
Posts: 126
I think it might've been YMMV.
I would assume that if the scheduled flight didn't change; then any changes on your segment, regardless of the time of day would be a "change" within your 1-way segment..
It's really up to the airline what aircraft they want to use to fly from point A -> B... but maybe some agent can waive this change this over?
I would assume that if the scheduled flight didn't change; then any changes on your segment, regardless of the time of day would be a "change" within your 1-way segment..
It's really up to the airline what aircraft they want to use to fly from point A -> B... but maybe some agent can waive this change this over?