Mini RTW Questions
#6751
Join Date: Aug 2019
Programs: Aeroplan
Posts: 11
Mini RTW Question
New to the forum, so not sure if this is the right way to post (could not find the create new post button).
Wondering if it is possible to get off before the destination on a mini rtw and then make my own way to the destination essentially making it an open jaw.
Example:
Planning the following mini rtw: YYC-YVR-ICN-NRT-AKL-PER (destination) PER-SIN-WAW(stop over) WAW-FRA-YYC booking it after the new rule changes (sept). It should be within the max mpm and PER seems to be the only place in AUS/NZ that will allow me a stopover in Europe (even though I would prefer to have AKL/SYD/MEL as the destination)
I am wondering if it is possible to get out in AKL rather than going all the way to PER and then making my own way there (traveling through pacific a bit).
Wondering if it is possible to get off before the destination on a mini rtw and then make my own way to the destination essentially making it an open jaw.
Example:
Planning the following mini rtw: YYC-YVR-ICN-NRT-AKL-PER (destination) PER-SIN-WAW(stop over) WAW-FRA-YYC booking it after the new rule changes (sept). It should be within the max mpm and PER seems to be the only place in AUS/NZ that will allow me a stopover in Europe (even though I would prefer to have AKL/SYD/MEL as the destination)
I am wondering if it is possible to get out in AKL rather than going all the way to PER and then making my own way there (traveling through pacific a bit).
#6752
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New to the forum, so not sure if this is the right way to post (could not find the create new post button).
Wondering if it is possible to get off before the destination on a mini rtw and then make my own way to the destination essentially making it an open jaw.
Example:
Planning the following mini rtw: YYC-YVR-ICN-NRT-AKL-PER (destination) PER-SIN-WAW(stop over) WAW-FRA-YYC booking it after the new rule changes (sept). It should be within the max mpm and PER seems to be the only place in AUS/NZ that will allow me a stopover in Europe (even though I would prefer to have AKL/SYD/MEL as the destination)
I am wondering if it is possible to get out in AKL rather than going all the way to PER and then making my own way there (traveling through pacific a bit).
Wondering if it is possible to get off before the destination on a mini rtw and then make my own way to the destination essentially making it an open jaw.
Example:
Planning the following mini rtw: YYC-YVR-ICN-NRT-AKL-PER (destination) PER-SIN-WAW(stop over) WAW-FRA-YYC booking it after the new rule changes (sept). It should be within the max mpm and PER seems to be the only place in AUS/NZ that will allow me a stopover in Europe (even though I would prefer to have AKL/SYD/MEL as the destination)
I am wondering if it is possible to get out in AKL rather than going all the way to PER and then making my own way there (traveling through pacific a bit).
#6753
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Ottawa, ON
Programs: Marriott Plat, Hertz President's Circle, Hilton Gold
Posts: 391
New to the forum, so not sure if this is the right way to post (could not find the create new post button).
Wondering if it is possible to get off before the destination on a mini rtw and then make my own way to the destination essentially making it an open jaw.
Example:
Planning the following mini rtw: YYC-YVR-ICN-NRT-AKL-PER (destination) PER-SIN-WAW(stop over) WAW-FRA-YYC booking it after the new rule changes (sept). It should be within the max mpm and PER seems to be the only place in AUS/NZ that will allow me a stopover in Europe (even though I would prefer to have AKL/SYD/MEL as the destination)
I am wondering if it is possible to get out in AKL rather than going all the way to PER and then making my own way there (traveling through pacific a bit).
Wondering if it is possible to get off before the destination on a mini rtw and then make my own way to the destination essentially making it an open jaw.
Example:
Planning the following mini rtw: YYC-YVR-ICN-NRT-AKL-PER (destination) PER-SIN-WAW(stop over) WAW-FRA-YYC booking it after the new rule changes (sept). It should be within the max mpm and PER seems to be the only place in AUS/NZ that will allow me a stopover in Europe (even though I would prefer to have AKL/SYD/MEL as the destination)
I am wondering if it is possible to get out in AKL rather than going all the way to PER and then making my own way there (traveling through pacific a bit).
It's possible to make it to SYD and MEL definitely from the east coast and even then it just barely comes under the MPM. You could always start your trip in the east coast by taking a 1 way flight there and then on the return you don't take your last leg. e.g. YYZ-Europe-SIN-MEL and on your return you do MEL-YVR-YYC-YYZ but dont take the YYZ flight.
#6754
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Vancouver
Posts: 80
Trying to build another Mini-RTW trip right around Xmas time and im having zero luck even with the first step of getting out of Vancouver.
Looking to fly out December 19/20/21 , out of Vancouver to Anywhere in Europe or Asia, I cant find any availability in J or Y. Does Aeroplan specifically block these 3 days completely?
Looking to fly out December 19/20/21 , out of Vancouver to Anywhere in Europe or Asia, I cant find any availability in J or Y. Does Aeroplan specifically block these 3 days completely?
#6755
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Trying to build another Mini-RTW trip right around Xmas time and im having zero luck even with the first step of getting out of Vancouver.
Looking to fly out December 19/20/21 , out of Vancouver to Anywhere in Europe or Asia, I cant find any availability in J or Y. Does Aeroplan specifically block these 3 days completely?
Looking to fly out December 19/20/21 , out of Vancouver to Anywhere in Europe or Asia, I cant find any availability in J or Y. Does Aeroplan specifically block these 3 days completely?
Have you tried the "less exciting" routes/airlines such as Air China, Ethopian Airlines etc.?
#6756
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Vancouver
Posts: 80
Looking to do stops in Dubai, Moscow, Riga.
#6757
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Especially if you can find business class award availability, booking a separate connecting flight may be an option worth considering.
#6758
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Vancouver
Posts: 80
There is availability from JFK-BRU and then on to Moscow, would have to do open-jaw to Riga, and then riga to JFK back via Brussels. And pay about $600 for cash ticket round-trip YVR-JFK.
#6759
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: YYZ
Posts: 11
First time trying to book a mini-rtw in J and would like your quick feedback. Am I doing it right?
YYZ-TPE-BKK(stop)-SIN(dest)-IST(stop)-CAI-YYZ
YYZ-SIN - 13,095mi (q) MPM
YYZ-TPE-BKK-SIN = 9,941 mi (GCmapper)
SIN-IST-CAI-YYZ = 11,923 mi (GCmapper) (if there's a better or more fun J routing from SIN to YYZ next year August with only 3 legs, let me know since IST-CAI is in Y, although a short flight)
Anything else I need to know before booking? Thanks!!
YYZ-TPE-BKK(stop)-SIN(dest)-IST(stop)-CAI-YYZ
YYZ-SIN - 13,095mi (q) MPM
YYZ-TPE-BKK-SIN = 9,941 mi (GCmapper)
SIN-IST-CAI-YYZ = 11,923 mi (GCmapper) (if there's a better or more fun J routing from SIN to YYZ next year August with only 3 legs, let me know since IST-CAI is in Y, although a short flight)
Anything else I need to know before booking? Thanks!!
Last edited by Markerman; Aug 26, 2019 at 8:05 pm
#6760
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: YTZ
Programs: Aeroplan, Asia Miles
Posts: 81
First time trying to book a mini-rtw in J and would like your quick feedback. Am I doing it right?
YYZ-TPE-BKK(stop)-SIN(dest)-IST(stop)-CAI-YYZ
YYZ-SIN - 13,095mi (q) MPM
YYZ-TPE-BKK-SIN = 9,941 mi (GCmapper)
SIN-IST-CAI-YYZ = 11,923 mi (GCmapper) (if there's a better or more fun J routing from SIN to YYZ next year August with only 3 legs, let me know since IST-CAI is in Y, although a short flight)
Anything else I need to know before booking? Thanks!!
YYZ-TPE-BKK(stop)-SIN(dest)-IST(stop)-CAI-YYZ
YYZ-SIN - 13,095mi (q) MPM
YYZ-TPE-BKK-SIN = 9,941 mi (GCmapper)
SIN-IST-CAI-YYZ = 11,923 mi (GCmapper) (if there's a better or more fun J routing from SIN to YYZ next year August with only 3 legs, let me know since IST-CAI is in Y, although a short flight)
Anything else I need to know before booking? Thanks!!
Last edited by nnanlno; Aug 26, 2019 at 8:35 pm
#6761
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: YYZ
Posts: 11
Define "fun"? Presumably the CAI-YYZ is on MS which is a dry airline. That wouldn't be all that much fun. I hear it on a new 777 tho. I've never been there myself, but the consensus seems to be that transiting in CAI is an experience in itself to say the least. Unless you really want to see the pyramids during the layover. There may be other better choices
Essentially, I'm asking if there's a leg from SIN-???(STOP)-YYZ in J (with little YQ) from starting Aug 14, 2020 without having another layover, the only one I found was SIN-IST-CAI-YYZ in J (except IST-CAI).
I'm open to suggestions (assuming the routing would work)
#6762
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: YVR
Programs: SE 100K
Posts: 934
Logistically, how does it work booking a Y seat and then trying to upgrade to J?
ie) a LAX / SFO > YVR segment has Y reward space but no J.
Is the entire ticket considered a J reward ticket so technically entitled to the space if it opens?
Just continue searching for J space on desired flight and if it appears on AE, simply call in and claim it?
If that doesn't work, upgrade at gate somehow?
I've only booked one mRTW and was able to find everything I wanted in J but having more difficulty this time around.
ie) a LAX / SFO > YVR segment has Y reward space but no J.
Is the entire ticket considered a J reward ticket so technically entitled to the space if it opens?
Just continue searching for J space on desired flight and if it appears on AE, simply call in and claim it?
If that doesn't work, upgrade at gate somehow?
I've only booked one mRTW and was able to find everything I wanted in J but having more difficulty this time around.
#6763
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Logistically, how does it work booking a Y seat and then trying to upgrade to J?
ie) a LAX / SFO > YVR segment has Y reward space but no J.
Is the entire ticket considered a J reward ticket so technically entitled to the space if it opens?
Just continue searching for J space on desired flight and if it appears on AE, simply call in and claim it?
If that doesn't work, upgrade at gate somehow?
I've only booked one mRTW and was able to find everything I wanted in J but having more difficulty this time around.
ie) a LAX / SFO > YVR segment has Y reward space but no J.
Is the entire ticket considered a J reward ticket so technically entitled to the space if it opens?
Just continue searching for J space on desired flight and if it appears on AE, simply call in and claim it?
If that doesn't work, upgrade at gate somehow?
I've only booked one mRTW and was able to find everything I wanted in J but having more difficulty this time around.
#6764
Join Date: Mar 2019
Programs: Aeroplan
Posts: 99
Think you're best to book what you've got then pay the $100 change if a route you prefer comes up. For your criteria probably SIN-IST-LIS-YYZ (TP) is best on there new NEO though personally I'd take the extra short leg and go SIN-IST-ZRH-YUL-YYZ (LX).
#6765
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Thanks for response! Scratch the fun part haha.
Essentially, I'm asking if there's a leg from SIN-???(STOP)-YYZ in J (with little YQ) from starting Aug 14, 2020 without having another layover, the only one I found was SIN-IST-CAI-YYZ in J (except IST-CAI).
I'm open to suggestions (assuming the routing would work)
Essentially, I'm asking if there's a leg from SIN-???(STOP)-YYZ in J (with little YQ) from starting Aug 14, 2020 without having another layover, the only one I found was SIN-IST-CAI-YYZ in J (except IST-CAI).
I'm open to suggestions (assuming the routing would work)
That said, there's availability on BR J on August 15th with a very simple SIN-TPE-YYZ, all in J, soooo not sure what the problem with that one is? Unless you really NEED to route back through europe.