Mini RTW Questions
#6211
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Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Canada
Programs: UA*1K MM
Posts: 23,293
Lets say you fly YUL-ZRH on Swiss. Then ZRH-YUL on AC.
First segment is not subject to scamcharges. 2nd is.
Now, if you search ZRH-YUL on AC on ITA, you will see lets say $200 - because YQ ex-Europe is lower.
However, AC will calculate your YQ for the return segment as originating in Canada as half of round trip $500+
#6212
Join Date: Mar 2019
Programs: Aeroplan
Posts: 99
Realize I've clearly given some erroneous YQ calculation info - sorry! I'm still unclear on how it IS calculated though.
Say I go YVR-YUL(AC)/YUL-ZRH(LX)/ZRH-IST(TK) and then return the same way - I understand those in the know are saying YQ is calculated for a origin and destination of one YVR-IST flight; but on which airline?
Say I go YVR-YUL(AC)/YUL-ZRH(LX)/ZRH-IST(TK) and then return the same way - I understand those in the know are saying YQ is calculated for a origin and destination of one YVR-IST flight; but on which airline?
#6213
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Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Canada
Programs: UA*1K MM
Posts: 23,293
Realize I've clearly given some erroneous YQ calculation info - sorry! I'm still unclear on how it IS calculated though.
Say I go YVR-YUL(AC)/YUL-ZRH(LX)/ZRH-IST(TK) and then return the same way - I understand those in the know are saying YQ is calculated for a origin and destination of one YVR-IST flight; but on which airline?
Say I go YVR-YUL(AC)/YUL-ZRH(LX)/ZRH-IST(TK) and then return the same way - I understand those in the know are saying YQ is calculated for a origin and destination of one YVR-IST flight; but on which airline?
The origin-destination formula applies if a longhaul leg is YQ'ed.
#6214
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: YYZ
Programs: SE100K, Bonvoy Ambassador, National Executive
Posts: 175
Hi I've been doing a ton of research for the "Big Trip" we are planning next year, can those wiser than me let me know if this is a valid itinerary
TK J ORD-IST (8hr layover do TK sight seeing trip)
TK J IST-DPS - STOP
SIN J DPS-MLE - Destination
SIN J MLE-SIN -STOP
EVA J SIN-ORD
We are looking at May so can't book yet but I played with dates on the ANA site and they seem to work. We will buy a separate ticket to ORD unless I can find a way to begin and end in YYZ that avoids Scam charges.
TK J ORD-IST (8hr layover do TK sight seeing trip)
TK J IST-DPS - STOP
SIN J DPS-MLE - Destination
SIN J MLE-SIN -STOP
EVA J SIN-ORD
We are looking at May so can't book yet but I played with dates on the ANA site and they seem to work. We will buy a separate ticket to ORD unless I can find a way to begin and end in YYZ that avoids Scam charges.
#6215
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Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Canada
Programs: UA*1K MM
Posts: 23,293
Hi I've been doing a ton of research for the "Big Trip" we are planning next year, can those wiser than me let me know if this is a valid itinerary
TK J ORD-IST (8hr layover do TK sight seeing trip)
TK J IST-DPS - STOP
SIN J DPS-MLE - Destination
SIN J MLE-SIN -STOP
EVA J SIN-ORD
We are looking at May so can't book yet but I played with dates on the ANA site and they seem to work. We will buy a separate ticket to ORD unless I can find a way to begin and end in YYZ that avoids Scam charges.
TK J ORD-IST (8hr layover do TK sight seeing trip)
TK J IST-DPS - STOP
SIN J DPS-MLE - Destination
SIN J MLE-SIN -STOP
EVA J SIN-ORD
We are looking at May so can't book yet but I played with dates on the ANA site and they seem to work. We will buy a separate ticket to ORD unless I can find a way to begin and end in YYZ that avoids Scam charges.
You can do ORD-MLE-DPS and then go via Pacific, but the way you have it wont work.
#6216
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Toronto, ON
Programs: AC 75K
Posts: 6,358
Hi I've been doing a ton of research for the "Big Trip" we are planning next year, can those wiser than me let me know if this is a valid itinerary
TK J ORD-IST (8hr layover do TK sight seeing trip)
TK J IST-DPS - STOP
SIN J DPS-MLE - Destination
SIN J MLE-SIN -STOP
EVA J SIN-ORD
We are looking at May so can't book yet but I played with dates on the ANA site and they seem to work. We will buy a separate ticket to ORD unless I can find a way to begin and end in YYZ that avoids Scam charges.
TK J ORD-IST (8hr layover do TK sight seeing trip)
TK J IST-DPS - STOP
SIN J DPS-MLE - Destination
SIN J MLE-SIN -STOP
EVA J SIN-ORD
We are looking at May so can't book yet but I played with dates on the ANA site and they seem to work. We will buy a separate ticket to ORD unless I can find a way to begin and end in YYZ that avoids Scam charges.
If you change up the sequence of your stops, you may be able to get it to work. Unfortunately the only Star Alliance option to SE Asia from MLE is SQ.
#6217
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: YYZ
Programs: SE100K, Bonvoy Ambassador, National Executive
Posts: 175
Thanks I played around a bit more and got this - will it work?
YYZ-TPE
TPE-DPS - Destination
DPS-SIN
SIN-MLE - STOP
MLE-BLR
BLR-YYZ
Unfortunately I think I'm going to either have to pay Scam charges for the last leg or hit SE. Side question if i book then hit SE can i call in and get the scam charges waived?
YYZ-TPE
TPE-DPS - Destination
DPS-SIN
SIN-MLE - STOP
MLE-BLR
BLR-YYZ
Unfortunately I think I'm going to either have to pay Scam charges for the last leg or hit SE. Side question if i book then hit SE can i call in and get the scam charges waived?
#6218
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: YQB
Programs: AC SE
Posts: 2,139
Thanks I played around a bit more and got this - will it work?
YYZ-TPE
TPE-DPS - Destination
DPS-SIN
SIN-MLE - STOP
MLE-BLR
BLR-YYZ
Unfortunately I think I'm going to either have to pay Scam charges for the last leg or hit SE. Side question if i book then hit SE can i call in and get the scam charges waived?
YYZ-TPE
TPE-DPS - Destination
DPS-SIN
SIN-MLE - STOP
MLE-BLR
BLR-YYZ
Unfortunately I think I'm going to either have to pay Scam charges for the last leg or hit SE. Side question if i book then hit SE can i call in and get the scam charges waived?
#6219
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Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Canada
Programs: UA*1K MM
Posts: 23,293
If you hit SE after the ticket issued , you can get scamcharges refunded upon paying the change fee,
#6220
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: YYZ
Programs: All Accor Plat, 1865 Voyager, AE E35K, HH Gold,Hyatt, Hrtz Gold, Marriott Gold, NEXUS
Posts: 1,669
I was doing some planning and came up with this itinerary:
YYZ- BOS AC J
BOS-IST TK J stop
IST--SIN TK J
SIN-MEL SQ J destination
MEL - SIN SQ J
SIN - KIX SQ J stop
KIX - NRT NH Y
NRT - ORD NH J
ORD - YYZ AC J
I think it's within MPM (13,800 on the return and 14,397 on the way out and I think YYZ-MEL is just over 16,000), but will I be able to transit through SIN twice?
YYZ- BOS AC J
BOS-IST TK J stop
IST--SIN TK J
SIN-MEL SQ J destination
MEL - SIN SQ J
SIN - KIX SQ J stop
KIX - NRT NH Y
NRT - ORD NH J
ORD - YYZ AC J
I think it's within MPM (13,800 on the return and 14,397 on the way out and I think YYZ-MEL is just over 16,000), but will I be able to transit through SIN twice?
#6221
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Join Date: May 2015
Location: BOS, YVR, ZRH
Programs: *G
Posts: 17,380
I was doing some planning and came up with this itinerary:
YYZ- BOS AC J
BOS-IST TK J stop
IST--SIN TK J
SIN-MEL SQ J destination
MEL - SIN SQ J
SIN - KIX SQ J stop
KIX - NRT NH Y
NRT - ORD NH J
ORD - YYZ AC J
I think it's within MPM (13,800 on the return and 14,397 on the way out and I think YYZ-MEL is just over 16,000), but will I be able to transit through SIN twice?
YYZ- BOS AC J
BOS-IST TK J stop
IST--SIN TK J
SIN-MEL SQ J destination
MEL - SIN SQ J
SIN - KIX SQ J stop
KIX - NRT NH Y
NRT - ORD NH J
ORD - YYZ AC J
I think it's within MPM (13,800 on the return and 14,397 on the way out and I think YYZ-MEL is just over 16,000), but will I be able to transit through SIN twice?
#6222
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: YYZ
Programs: All Accor Plat, 1865 Voyager, AE E35K, HH Gold,Hyatt, Hrtz Gold, Marriott Gold, NEXUS
Posts: 1,669
Thanks. If it was an issue I could have fixed it by transiting through PEK on one of the legs, but wanted to avoid it. A few hours ago I could have went through TPE on BR on the way to KIX but that seems to have disappeared.
#6223
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: YHM
Programs: AP Silver, Marriott Platinum, BA
Posts: 6
Valid routing?
Working on a few weeks away next year. I think Cape Town is throwing me over MPM?
YYZ-ADD
ADD-CPT Stop 5 days
CPT-IST
IST-MLE Stop 6 days
MLE-SIN
SIN-TPE
TPE-YYZ
I went with this route for a few reasons; low YQ, less hops between stops, and I wanted to fly BR home. I'm open to whatever else works if I need to adjust.
YYZ-ADD
ADD-CPT Stop 5 days
CPT-IST
IST-MLE Stop 6 days
MLE-SIN
SIN-TPE
TPE-YYZ
I went with this route for a few reasons; low YQ, less hops between stops, and I wanted to fly BR home. I'm open to whatever else works if I need to adjust.
#6224
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Toronto, ON
Programs: AC 75K
Posts: 6,358
Working on a few weeks away next year. I think Cape Town is throwing me over MPM?
YYZ-ADD
ADD-CPT Stop 5 days
CPT-IST
IST-MLE Stop 6 days
MLE-SIN
SIN-TPE
TPE-YYZ
I went with this route for a few reasons; low YQ, less hops between stops, and I wanted to fly BR home. I'm open to whatever else works if I need to adjust.
YYZ-ADD
ADD-CPT Stop 5 days
CPT-IST
IST-MLE Stop 6 days
MLE-SIN
SIN-TPE
TPE-YYZ
I went with this route for a few reasons; low YQ, less hops between stops, and I wanted to fly BR home. I'm open to whatever else works if I need to adjust.
CPT and MLE May not be possible on one reward. What are your priorities?
#6225
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: YHM
Programs: AP Silver, Marriott Platinum, BA
Posts: 6
I've gotta give MLE the priority (wife wants to go back), maybe I'll make IST a stopover and nest a roundtrip to CPT... Or am I still over?