Mini RTW Questions
Jan 6, 2018, 3:35 pm
#5297
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: YVR
Posts: 1,082
I'm having a hell of a time finding a good way to get from TLV to BKK. Google flights shows 1 direct flight from a star alliance carrier on the day i'd like to leave, but it's El Al so, no go. Routing has be going back to IST -- TLV-IST-SIN-BKK, 2 stops, which is maybe a little much. If i decided to do this, i would not be able to if my knowledge is correct with hitting the same destination twice. If you do this, they have to be separate on both sides of your destination, no?
There are many more routing options for getting from TLV to BKK. You can't go back to IST, so you're left with ZRH, FRA and ADD.
Jan 6, 2018, 3:38 pm
#5298
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: YYZ
Programs: Flying Blue
Posts: 159
Is this rule always enforced now? I was able to do 1OJ in Japan and then 2 stops (China and South Korea) a year ago. I may have been lucky though
Jan 6, 2018, 3:39 pm
#5299
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: YYC
Programs: Hilton Diamond, Fairmont Plat, IHG Spire, SPG Gold, WS Gold, Hertz PC, National E Elite,
Posts: 2,768
Hey folks, pretty experienced mini-RTW booker here, but doing a trip for the in-laws to SYD and need some initial advice. They are flying J, and lie-flat long-haul is mandatory (therefore no YVR-HND). They are coming from West Coast (YVR). I know YVR-SYD is near impossible, but they are retired and connections aren't an issue. Based on my research, the best West Coast to Australia trips generally involve a trip to Asia (China, Japan, Hong Kong), then Southeast Asia (BKK/SIN etc), then SYD. Am I correct? Can they come home through Europe or do they need to come back across the Pacific?
Thanks.
Thanks.
Jan 6, 2018, 3:50 pm
#5300
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: May 2015
Location: BOS, YVR, ZRH
Programs: *G
Posts: 17,399
Hey folks, pretty experienced mini-RTW booker here, but doing a trip for the in-laws to SYD and need some initial advice. They are flying J, and lie-flat long-haul is mandatory (therefore no YVR-HND). They are coming from West Coast (YVR). I know YVR-SYD is near impossible, but they are retired and connections aren't an issue. Based on my research, the best West Coast to Australia trips generally involve a trip to Asia (China, Japan, Hong Kong), then Southeast Asia (BKK/SIN etc), then SYD. Am I correct? Can they come home through Europe or do they need to come back across the Pacific?
Thanks.
Thanks.
If 1 connection is okay you actually have a LOT of options under MPM:
direct
IAH
AKL
ICN
HND (I believe in the summer it has proper lie-flats?)
LAX
SFO
PVG
If 2 connections are okay then it expands even more as there's a LOT of TPAC-routings via e.g. SFO/LAX. But yes, generally there'll be a flight intra-asia or intra-NA.
The alternative would be booking a flight with e.g. PER as the destination and paying for the PER-SYD roundtrip by another means (e.g. Avios), then it's feasible to return via europe.
Jan 6, 2018, 3:53 pm
#5301
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: May 2009
Location: FRA / YEG
Programs: AC Super Elite, Radisson Platinum, Accor Platinum
Posts: 11,874
Hey folks, pretty experienced mini-RTW booker here, but doing a trip for the in-laws to SYD and need some initial advice. They are flying J, and lie-flat long-haul is mandatory (therefore no YVR-HND). They are coming from West Coast (YVR). I know YVR-SYD is near impossible, but they are retired and connections aren't an issue. Based on my research, the best West Coast to Australia trips generally involve a trip to Asia (China, Japan, Hong Kong), then Southeast Asia (BKK/SIN etc), then SYD. Am I correct? Can they come home through Europe or do they need to come back across the Pacific?
Thanks.
Thanks.
- you're correct that routing via Asia opens up many more opens and availability is much better (though still not an easy award to piec etogether if you want to avoid Chinese airlines)
- routing via Europe from the West Coast is almost guaranteed to be over MPM
Jan 6, 2018, 4:26 pm
#5302
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: YYZ
Programs: Flying Blue
Posts: 159
By any chance, would YYZ Australia be permitted via Europe both ways
YYZ-CDG-BKK-PER
SYD-PEK-ZRH-YUL-YTZ
I am afraid the outbound seems fine while the return may be over limit
YYZ-CDG-BKK-PER
SYD-PEK-ZRH-YUL-YTZ
I am afraid the outbound seems fine while the return may be over limit
Jan 7, 2018, 3:24 pm
#5305
Join Date: Dec 2002
Posts: 8,002
Hey folks, pretty experienced mini-RTW booker here, but doing a trip for the in-laws to SYD and need some initial advice. They are flying J, and lie-flat long-haul is mandatory (therefore no YVR-HND). They are coming from West Coast (YVR). I know YVR-SYD is near impossible, but they are retired and connections aren't an issue. Based on my research, the best West Coast to Australia trips generally involve a trip to Asia (China, Japan, Hong Kong), then Southeast Asia (BKK/SIN etc), then SYD. Am I correct? Can they come home through Europe or do they need to come back across the Pacific?
Thanks.
Thanks.
Are they only wanting to go to Australia, or other destinations too?
Jan 7, 2018, 4:17 pm
#5306
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: YVR to SEA
Posts: 2,535
From YVR mpm to Australia is always an issue, maybe better now since they made a single value instead of the official ones before
book one way out of Australia and YQ is minimal. Booking roundtrip YVR to Australia on AC would be north of 800 probably
There's Brisbane, Sydney and Melbourne now, I believe
book one way out of Australia and YQ is minimal. Booking roundtrip YVR to Australia on AC would be north of 800 probably
There's Brisbane, Sydney and Melbourne now, I believe
Jan 7, 2018, 6:17 pm
#5308
Join Date: Jan 2017
Posts: 56
Will any of those invalidate the route? Having a tough time understanding this business of having to travel in the same general direction. Searched this threat quite a bit and can't find any clarity on why this is allowed. I've seen before that it is specifically not allowed to divert from your general direction
Jan 7, 2018, 7:05 pm
#5309
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: YVR
Posts: 1,082
Will any of those invalidate the route? Having a tough time understanding this business of having to travel in the same general direction. Searched this threat quite a bit and can't find any clarity on why this is allowed. I've seen before that it is specifically not allowed to divert from your general direction
As long as you don't transit same city twice in one direction, and don't go over MPM, doesn't matter whether you backtrack.