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Old Dec 31, 2015, 2:12 pm
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Both Asiana and ANA have fuel surcharges.
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Old Dec 31, 2015, 4:01 pm
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Originally Posted by djskynet
I thought NH and OZ had no charges. If I change the last leg to make sure there is no AC flight at all, will that change anything?

I was thinking I could route thru TPE on my way back instead of ICN but am waiting for Eva to release business seats on TPE-YYZ
They do. AC collects scamcharges on NH OZ flights.
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Old Jan 4, 2016, 9:03 am
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suggestions for mini rtw
for 1/17 2 people j class

MIA-JNB (stop) ( routing that works is MIA-BOG-GRU-JNB or MIA-IAD-JNB

then JNB-PER (stop)

then PER-BNE-YYZ

now i know i can do 3 one ways which would be 240000

is there a way of doing

MIA-JNB-(stop)-PER

PER-YYZ on one mrtw or am I way over mileage or did mileage change this year when they raised the awards
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Old Jan 4, 2016, 10:42 am
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Not sure you can do PER-BNE on Star Alliance. Don't think anyone flies that route (not direct anyway).
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Old Jan 4, 2016, 2:40 pm
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Can anyone tell me whether the following is a valid routing:

JFK-NRT-ICN-SYD

The cumulative mileage is 12,679 and the MPM for this route, as per EF, seems to be 11,947. So my routing is more than 5% but is within the 10% surcharge. But I think AE did away with the whole MPM thing anyway right?

Thanks in advance.
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Old Jan 4, 2016, 2:50 pm
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Originally Posted by Far Siren
Can anyone tell me whether the following is a valid routing:

JFK-NRT-ICN-SYD

The cumulative mileage is 12,679 and the MPM for this route, as per EF, seems to be 11,947. So my routing is more than 5% but is within the 10% surcharge. But I think AE did away with the whole MPM thing anyway right?

Thanks in advance.
Not so much did away with MPM but made it something we on the outside can usually only guess at (i.e., not published anywhere). So, unless someone has attempted your exact routing in the past, the only way with something like that is to call it in.
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Old Jan 4, 2016, 2:51 pm
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Originally Posted by Far Siren
Can anyone tell me whether the following is a valid routing:

JFK-NRT-ICN-SYD

The cumulative mileage is 12,679 and the MPM for this route, as per EF, seems to be 11,947. So my routing is more than 5% but is within the 10% surcharge. But I think AE did away with the whole MPM thing anyway right?

Thanks in advance.
They did do away with MPM, it's now the mystical and unpublished "city pair", there's a thread on this board with routings people have had approved since the new system came down.

You shouldn't have any issue doing JFK-ICN-SYD, and fly the Asiana 380...
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Old Jan 4, 2016, 2:58 pm
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It's valid. You can book it as a multicity on the website.
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Old Jan 4, 2016, 4:46 pm
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Originally Posted by Marlin240
Not so much did away with MPM but made it something we on the outside can usually only guess at (i.e., not published anywhere). So, unless someone has attempted your exact routing in the past, the only way with something like that is to call it in.
Thanks. I try to avoid the AE call centre as much as I can but in this instance there is no way around it I guess.

Originally Posted by yvrgary
They did do away with MPM, it's now the mystical and unpublished "city pair", there's a thread on this board with routings people have had approved since the new system came down.

You shouldn't have any issue doing JFK-ICN-SYD, and fly the Asiana 380...
Would love to, but Asiana is not available on the JFK-ICN route around my dates

Originally Posted by krayZpaving
It's valid. You can book it as a multicity on the website.
Negative - I tried every which way and it keeps giving me error messages.
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Old Jan 4, 2016, 5:09 pm
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JFK to nrt, nrt to Sydney, Sydney to JFK should work in multi city
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Old Jan 4, 2016, 7:18 pm
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I got JFK-NRT-ICN-SYD and back to JFK (via ICN) to book (well, I didn't press the last button but all the way to credit card details).

Requested JFK-NRT, then NRT-SYD, then SYD-JFK. The NRT-SYD leg routed through ICN.
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Old Jan 5, 2016, 1:11 pm
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For mini rtw trips is it still 2 stop overs and a open jaw plus 10 layovers? I wanted something like JFK-NRT-ICN-BKK-JFK with a bunch of short layovers in japan,taiwan,shanghai,hong kong, and vietnam. Mainly just to stop and eat.

and you wanna avoid air canada flights correct?
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Old Jan 5, 2016, 1:44 pm
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Yes, that's still the rule. And you can sometimes get more than 10 layovers in.

Note that the permitted mileage isn't as generous as it used to be though.

Avoid AC, LH, OZ, NH and TG to avoid fuel surcharges. But good luck avoiding those airlines if you want to go from NRT-ICN-BKK!
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Old Jan 5, 2016, 4:33 pm
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Originally Posted by krayZpaving
Yes, that's still the rule. And you can sometimes get more than 10 layovers in.

Note that the permitted mileage isn't as generous as it used to be though.

Avoid AC, LH, OZ, NH and TG to avoid fuel surcharges. But good luck avoiding those airlines if you want to go from NRT-ICN-BKK!
lol thats like most of the asian airlines! thanks though. Can you usually book these online or should you book over the phone?
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Old Jan 5, 2016, 4:47 pm
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You can book online if it's simple, but if you're looking to do lots of 24 hour connections it's best to identify the available flights by doing point-to-point searches and then call up to make a booking that strings them all together (spoon-feeding the flights to the agent).
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