1Newflyer

You have great itinerary and price. Could you provide the airlines for each segment?

Pseudo Nim

You need to get all the PNRs for the individual airlines, and look up using those. Aeroplan's PNR does not pull up on CMT, but others do.

Pseudo Nim

LOL. Aeroplan is stooping to blackmail (unless I'm really confused about something).

"Sir, I've checked your return, SIN-KIX-PEK-SVO-WAW-YYZ-YUL. We can't make it work, it's over "mileage" and/or "fare routing". The only way we can make it work is if you abandon your outbound, YUL-YYZ-IST-PEK-SIN, and route through JFK/FRA instead. Then you will be within mileage. I know you're trying to save on taxes, but that's the only way that we can make that work within "mileage" and "fare routing"."

AZbba

SAN-SFO-TPE(stop)-HKG-ZRH-MAD(destination)-ZRH-BKK(stop)-TPE-LAX-SAN

Sure,

SAN-SFO - UA J
SFO-TPE - BR J
TPE-HKG - BR J
HKG-ZRH - LX J
ZRH-MAD - LX J
MAD-ZRH - LX J
ZRH-BKK - LX J
BKK-TPE - TG Y
TPE-LAX - BR J
LAX-SFO UA Y

1Newflyer

Tks, its good you were able to get LX on so many segments.

flyertalker00156

So is this valid in terms of mpm?

Pseudo Nim

Okay. The HUCU mantra holds, although it took me three days and a lost itinerary before I managed to actually book something. Sigh. Why do people have to make life so difficult? I had one tell me that my itinerary is invalid the moment I mentioned IST and PEK - before she even checked MPM, because it "seemed" wrong. What's this, USDM? Another one, as posted above, tried to blackmail me into taking AC/LH flights so that they "allow" my return.

I finally succeeded to book something. No word on taxes yet, but it's gone to ticketing, so I'll know soon.

YUL-YYZ-WAW-FRA-PEK-SIN, stop
SIN-KIX, stop
KIX-PEK-SVO, stop
DME-ZRH-YUL

MPM is 13,031 and the routes are 12,830 on the outbound and 12,843 on the return. Woohoo!

Funniest part was when I said "DME to ZRH, that's Moscow as well" and she said "yeah yeah I know". I knew things were okay then.

1Newflyer

We all knew you would win this one; but how many hours is the first leg of the trip? Or is there an overnite?

Pseudo Nim

The first leg is hugely long. Raw dates, it lands in SIN exactly 4 days after departing from YUL (leaving 8am on the 30th of a month, 31-1-2, landing at 8am); the long layovers are 8 hours in YYZ, and 12 hours in PEK. This was by design, though (well, PEK, anyway - not YYZ, I mean, who wants to go do anything there, right? :P ). Unfortunately, the WAW and FRA layovers are just neither here nor there, at about 3 hours each. On the upside, I'm a bit more happy with this itin than the previous one that vanished, YUL-YYZ-IST-PEK-SIN, because the IST layover was almost 12 hours, but you can't realistically go from the airport to the city because of the traffic and bad transport links - which is totally not the case in PEK.

AZbba

Yea, it's only 2 long haul J flights (and it's for 3 people each).

BKK/HKG/PEK/PVG - ZRH are amongst the easiest awards to find (close-in and in advance)

crimsona

I'm going to say no. There is no mpm value for YUL-SYD over the Atlantic, so you would have to fly the Singapore published route. OR you start your journey in YYZ where there is a mpm value over the Atlantic.

MPM M 5M
MPM PA 11960 12558

CTY GI TPM CUM MPM EMS DED LAST NEXT 25M YMQ 1
1. NYC 1 - 332 332 ****
2. IST 2 AT 5019 5351 5757 0M 0 0 406 7196
3. HKG 3 AT 4965 10316 11823 0M 0 0 1507 14778
4. AKL 3 - 5699 16015 ****
5. SYD 3 - 1342 17357 ****
**** MILEAGE DATA NOT AVAILABLE

1Newflyer

I must be using the wrong tool but ANA or AP has hardly any BKK-ZRH certainly nothing in April next year for 2 pex. I just went through from now to May and see one in Nov and one in Dec and nothing until May. Going the other way practically nothing until next March.

tng11

BKK-ZRH/FRA on LX/LH seems to be incredibly hard to get for some odd reason! Is premium traffic to BKK really that crazy?

I've been watching FRA-BKK awards on LH F for the last 2 months, and I haven't seen a single seat released in the T-14 window! In that same time I've even seen seats on the elusive, almost "impossible" FRA-SIN route.

erik19283

I guess that may depend on the day of the week and the time you arrive in IST. I got there on a Sunday morning and it took maybe 30 or 40 mins from the airport to my hotel in Sultanahmet by car.

I actually was going to have a long layover in IST next summer to enjoy the city for the day, but I changed that to just a few hours because I'll meet a friend in BCN later on that day; otherwise, I think 12 hours is more than enough to leave the airport and go visit Istanbul.

flyertalker00156

Is there an easy way to get to AKL without going via NRT/SIN etc and not taking UA or AC metal? I think the only route is with NZ but I know that is very difficult to get tickets including on Y