FlyerTalk Forums

FlyerTalk Forums (https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/index.php)
-   Air Canada | Aeroplan (https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/air-canada-aeroplan-375/)
-   -   Exec First Cabin - Stuffy? (https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/air-canada-aeroplan/1084240-exec-first-cabin-stuffy.html)

will5404 May 11, 2010 7:37 pm

Exec First Cabin - Stuffy?
 
I've made my first 2 trips in Exec first both on 333's. Both times the cabin has been incredibly stuffy. At least in Y you have air vents you can open but this isn't the case in the suites. Anyone else experienced this? Is it a problem with the 333's specifically? I was in 8K and the forward part of the cabin around rows 1 and 2 seemed better when I walked by.

DaveTO May 11, 2010 7:47 pm

The 777 had 3 air vents for the D/G seats and 2 for the window seats. Maybe you had moved your seat into a position that didnt get air flow?

ChrisA330 May 11, 2010 7:48 pm


Originally Posted by DaveTO (Post 13941219)
The 777 had 3 air vents for the D/G seats and 2 for the window seats. Maybe you had moved your seat into a position that didnt get air flow?

The OP was flying on an A333, not a B777.

I've also found the same issue on the A333. Although I tend to get hot pretty easily. on aircraft with air vents I have it blasting the whole flight.

global happy traveller May 11, 2010 7:55 pm

Here is a photo of AC's A330-300 in the J cabin

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Air-C...e711ea5ee2d8de

Doesnt look like there is an air vent eyelet for the pax to adjust.

Based on the photo I cannot say for sure on AC's 763 (photo link below), but I recall my wife complaining the air was too cold and wasnt able to adjust.

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Air-C...56eea953436a50

On the 777s you can see some air vent eyelets for pax to adjust (pic link below)

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Air-C...826e08eedd5aee

hopefully this is informative enough

RCyyz May 11, 2010 8:21 pm

I find in general that the cabin tends to be hot. What bugs me is that after meal service, the heat is really cranked up (in an effort to induce pax to sleep?). I don't understand really as (in J at least) blankets are readily available. It's soooo hot though that I never use the blanket.

zkzkz May 11, 2010 9:24 pm

I also found it really really hot on my last flight, I thought it was an anomaly but if it's a general problem that's disturbing.

It was on a 777 YVR-LHR. I specifically chose that flight figuring 9hr would make it easier to sleep. instead I was kept up all night tossing and turning and sweating.

Turning up the heat doesn't make people sleep better. People always complain the summer that they can't sleep due to the heat. Turning *down* the heat and curling up with a blanket makes people sleep.

Stranger May 11, 2010 10:53 pm

Agreed about cabin being set too hot. I recall at least two occasions where I could not really sleep because it just got too hot.

Even if not using the blanket.

maradori May 12, 2010 12:11 am

On both legs of my flight, I found that using those blankets in Exec First to be a very "shocking" experience x_x;; (or am I the only static magnet on FT?)

cur May 12, 2010 4:13 am

third. it's way too much if you're wearing a shirt and a tie. i just take the damn shirt off and sleep in my t shirt. now the pants....

ACYYZ/SD May 12, 2010 4:36 am

This one of those fine balancing acts on board. I was on the 333 yesterday. 265 individuals have 265 body thermostats. Some like it hot, some like it cold. Generally (just an observation) male passengers are too warm, female passengers are too cold. Personally I try to keep the cabin a bit cooler and have no personal agenda to induce anybody to sleep. I'm always 10 degrees too warm wherever I am, and could comfortably sleep in meat freezer. :p

zkzkz May 12, 2010 5:18 am


Originally Posted by ACYYZ/SD (Post 13942845)
This one of those fine balancing acts on board. I was on the 333 yesterday. 265 individuals have 265 body thermostats. Some like it hot, some like it cold. Generally (just an observation) male passengers are too warm, female passengers are too cold. Personally I try to keep the cabin a bit cooler and have no personal agenda to induce anybody to sleep. I'm always 10 degrees too warm wherever I am, and could comfortably sleep in meat freezer. :p

On my particular flight it wasn't a fine balancing act. I would estimate it was about 6-8 degrees warmer than anything I would find comfortable. It was probably about 26 degrees in there. I intend to bring a thermometer on my next flight -- we'll see what CATSA makes of that :)

What kind of temperature controls does the 333 have? Can I ask the FA what temperature it's set to, or is it just "high" vs "low"? are there separate controls for different parts of the cabin?

While everyone so far has come down on the side of too hot I suspect we do have a gender imbalance on FT -- could everyone on this thread please disclose their gender so we can see if that argument holds water? I'm male.

zkzkz May 12, 2010 5:25 am


Originally Posted by global_happy_traveller (Post 13941268)
Here is a photo of AC's A330-300 in the J cabin

This photo is very suspicious. It can't possibly be of an AC flight. There's a working moving map showing on one of the IFEs! :D

fly747first May 12, 2010 5:27 am


Originally Posted by zkzkz (Post 13942922)
On my particular flight it wasn't a fine balancing act. I would estimate it was about 6-8 degrees warmer than anything I would find comfortable. It was probably about 26 degrees in there. I intend to bring a thermometer on my next flight -- we'll see what CATSA makes of that :)

What kind of temperature controls does the 333 have? Can I ask the FA what temperature it's set to, or is it just "high" vs "low"? are there separate controls for different parts of the cabin?

While everyone so far has come down on the side of too hot I suspect we do have a gender imbalance on FT -- could everyone on this thread please disclose their gender so we can see if that argument holds water? I'm male.

It really depends on your cabin crew. On Singapore Airlines, whenever I ask them to lower the cabin temperature so that I can fall to sleep without feeling too hot, they are always happy to do it. However, I have had a few flights on British Airways and US Airways where I ended up having to ask the Cabin Services Director to do something about the cabin temperature because the rest of the crew refused.

maradori May 12, 2010 5:40 am


Originally Posted by global_happy_traveller (Post 13941268)
Here is a photo of AC's A330-300 in the J cabin

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Air-C...e711ea5ee2d8de


Originally Posted by zkzkz (Post 13942935)
This photo is very suspicious. It can't possibly be of an AC flight. There's a working moving map showing on one of the IFEs! :D

That photo not only is suspicious, but c'mon, look at the loss of privacy with how many heads are in the shot, especially the guy in front on his laptop!! The SD should have asked the photographer to refrain from taking any more photos and to delete that photo ... for security reasons!!

ACYYZ/SD May 12, 2010 6:20 am


Originally Posted by zkzkz (Post 13942922)
On my particular flight it wasn't a fine balancing act. I would estimate it was about 6-8 degrees warmer than anything I would find comfortable. It was probably about 26 degrees in there. I intend to bring a thermometer on my next flight -- we'll see what CATSA makes of that :)

What kind of temperature controls does the 333 have? Can I ask the FA what temperature it's set to, or is it just "high" vs "low"? are there separate controls for different parts of the cabin?

While everyone so far has come down on the side of too hot I suspect we do have a gender imbalance on FT -- could everyone on this thread please disclose their gender so we can see if that argument holds water? I'm male.

The cabin temperature would never be set to 26 degrees - it would feel like a sauna. Bear in mind the crew is exerting more energy working and we'd be melting at this temperature.

The 333 has 3 zonal temperature settings and adjustable in increments of .5 degrees. Row 13 (last row J/C - Cabin B) always cooler than the rest of the cabin. Seems to be a design nuance on the A330. Temperature is controlled from the L-1 panel and is usually controlled by the S/D. The ideal cabin setting would be 22 - 22.5 c (although my preference would be 21c). Conservatively, there must have been at least 20 customer request to adjust the temp - too cold/too hot. Again, 265 individuals have 265 temperature settings.


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 1:30 pm.


This site is owned, operated, and maintained by MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. Copyright © 2026 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Designated trademarks are the property of their respective owners.