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Why doesn't AC fly to Melbourne?
Air Canada use to fly to MEL, by routing MEL>HNL>YVR but the flights were later axed, apparently the flights were viable, but some reason axed. There is a demand for direct flights MEL>YVR, (more so than BNE) so why doesn't AC operate the route? Or maybe we are waiting for the 787's to arrive? :)
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I would be thrilled to see YVR-SYD and YVR-MEL service operating on the 787s, but just wonder how viable it would be, particularly year-round.
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Wasn't there a YYZ-MEL route proposed a few years ago during a huge expansion.. one that quickly got cut?
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I am hardly an expert but direct flights from USA to MEL are somewhat limited by distance and load factors. I am not sure a direct flight YVR to MEL is possible without limiting loads.
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After AC bought CP it destroyed its "downunder" business.
AC has the routes its just cant make money doing it... AC also cancelled the YYZ-HNL flights. |
I would be surprised there would be enough demand for this, especially daily.
And Melbourne is a very easy connection from Sydney. Cheers, |
Id rather see YVR-BNE.
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Originally Posted by makin'miles
(Post 13330058)
I would be thrilled to see YVR-SYD and YVR-MEL service operating on the 787s, but just wonder how viable it would be, particularly year-round.
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I thought that was one of Milton's stated routes once the 787s came online. Now granted, we're two years delayed and two CEOs later and obviously priorities change - but I wouldn't be surprised to see the YVR-MEL nonstop revived. The connection in SYD is far from easy...transiting between the terminals is a PITA, unless you are on a QF ticket and take their free airside shuttle bus.
MEL seems to me to be a much higher-yielding and popular destination than BNE or any other Aussie city outside SYD. Finally, I don't think the 787 is enough airplane, capacity-wise, for the YYZ-YVR-SYD route during much of the year. |
I do the YYZ-YVR-BNE run fairly regularly and I'm always amazed at the number of pax connecting to the QF BNE flights from AC33.
Anyhow I agree with some of the posters here that when the smaller 787 is put on the YYZ-YVR-SYD run it may not be enough capacity. Maybe they could look at something like adding a YYZ-BNE-MEL run...I bet that could work. |
Originally Posted by threepoint
(Post 13332488)
The connection in SYD is far from easy...transiting between the terminals is a PITA, unless you are on a QF ticket and take their free airside shuttle bus.
I still miss Ansett (*alliance) though.............. |
Originally Posted by YYZFlyboy
(Post 13332721)
I do the YYZ-YVR-BNE run fairly regularly and I'm always amazed at the number of pax connecting to the QF BNE flights from AC33.
Anyhow I agree with some of the posters here that when the smaller 787 is put on the YYZ-YVR-SYD run it may not be enough capacity. Maybe they could look at something like adding a YYZ-BNE-MEL run...I bet that could work. As was mentioned upthread, Milton specifically mentioned YVR-MEL as a potential 787 route. QF has proved unable to make Australia-Canada work for them. AC should seize the initiative. |
Originally Posted by Riccioli
(Post 13330093)
Wasn't there a YYZ-MEL route proposed a few years ago during a huge expansion.. one that quickly got cut?
I doubt it. Even AC's 777-200LRs can't make YYZ-SYD nonstop, let alone YYZ-MEL. To fly Australia-Toronto nonstop, the 777-200LR would need auxiliary fuel tanks which cut out a lot of cargo space. To my knowledge, no carrier has bought the 777-200LR with those aux fuel tanks. Even QR balked at acquiring them for SYD-LHR because without cargo revenue you would need a particular rich passenger revenue stream on a year-round basis. |
Wow, SYD-LHR... How long of a flight would that be!
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Originally Posted by Sebring
(Post 13332962)
I doubt it. Even AC's 777-200LRs can't make YYZ-SYD nonstop, let alone YYZ-MEL. To fly Australia-Toronto nonstop, the 777-200LR would need auxiliary fuel tanks which cut out a lot of cargo space. To my knowledge, no carrier has bought the 777-200LR with those aux fuel tanks. Even QR balked at acquiring them for SYD-LHR because without cargo revenue you would need a particular rich passenger revenue stream on a year-round basis.
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