Air Canada Travel Advisory: New U.S. security procedures
Dec 27, 2009, 2:03 pm
#151
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I'm so glad my first flight of the year isn't until the 13th... Hopefully by then the knee jerk reaction has subsided and given way to sanity.
Dec 27, 2009, 2:20 pm
#152
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I'm glad mine is not until July! By then this will be all but forgotten
Dec 27, 2009, 2:40 pm
#153
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I have 6 trips booked and paid for, and unfortunately the first one January 12th has a stop in CLT, I pray this stuff is over and done with by then.
January 19th I go to GIG and don't touch down in the USA, same thing for other trips to MDE and MNL upcoming.
But ya ya, the first one HAS to change planes in the USA.
Good grief
January 19th I go to GIG and don't touch down in the USA, same thing for other trips to MDE and MNL upcoming.
But ya ya, the first one HAS to change planes in the USA.
Good grief
Dec 27, 2009, 3:01 pm
#154
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Is she...
... mad?!
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091227/...irliner_attack
News flash Janet, he was not stopped, he managed to detonate, it's just that luckily it didn't work exactly the way it was supposed to!
How can she just brush it aside like that by saying it was just one person out of thousands?! And what exactly is "everything" that should have happened?! The fact that a vigilant pax managed to subdue the lunatic? She makes it sound like that was also a part of their grand system of air security!!!! Fact is, if the lunatic was successful, it's safe to say no one would have been left to stop him.
P.S: The guy in the second incident is also Nigerian. I kinda feel sorry for the Nigerians, it takes two apples to ruin it for all...
Still, in appearances on Sunday talk shows, Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano said the traveling public "is very, very safe."
"This was one individual literally of thousands that fly and thousands of flights every year," Napolitano said. "And he was stopped before any damage could be done. I think the important thing to recognize here is that once this incident occurred, everything happened that should have."
"This was one individual literally of thousands that fly and thousands of flights every year," Napolitano said. "And he was stopped before any damage could be done. I think the important thing to recognize here is that once this incident occurred, everything happened that should have."
News flash Janet, he was not stopped, he managed to detonate, it's just that luckily it didn't work exactly the way it was supposed to!
How can she just brush it aside like that by saying it was just one person out of thousands?! And what exactly is "everything" that should have happened?! The fact that a vigilant pax managed to subdue the lunatic? She makes it sound like that was also a part of their grand system of air security!!!! Fact is, if the lunatic was successful, it's safe to say no one would have been left to stop him.
P.S: The guy in the second incident is also Nigerian. I kinda feel sorry for the Nigerians, it takes two apples to ruin it for all...
Last edited by payam81; Dec 27, 2009 at 3:08 pm
Dec 27, 2009, 3:10 pm
#156
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Especially when it's not one out of thousands. Over two billion passengers travel by air each year, on tens of millions of commercial flights. It's still one of the safest modes of transportation in the world.
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Dec 27, 2009, 3:35 pm
#157
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....Because of the extra delays have you left for the airport yet? You not only have the lower mainland traffic but all of the new security in place for the Olympics and also for the threat of the week! Good thing there is a MLL on the us side!
Dec 27, 2009, 3:48 pm
#158
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quote:
AIR CANADA LIMITS PASSENGERS TO SINGLE PERSONAL CARRY-ON ITEM IN RESPONSE TO ENHANCED SECURITY REQUIREMENTS
Why does it not say that this applies to US-bound flights only? By not saying anything, people may assume that it applies to domestic flights within Canada as well.
AIR CANADA LIMITS PASSENGERS TO SINGLE PERSONAL CARRY-ON ITEM IN RESPONSE TO ENHANCED SECURITY REQUIREMENTS
Why does it not say that this applies to US-bound flights only? By not saying anything, people may assume that it applies to domestic flights within Canada as well.
Dec 27, 2009, 4:02 pm
#159
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No they are actually major victories for the bad guys.
It's gotten to the point where they don't even really have to do anything anymore. They only need to find a few people willing to sacrifice themselves (or be looney) and have them keep pretending they're up to something until they get "caught." Then the US goes into melt-down mode and promptly imposes an economic blockade on itself.
It's gotten to the point where they don't even really have to do anything anymore. They only need to find a few people willing to sacrifice themselves (or be looney) and have them keep pretending they're up to something until they get "caught." Then the US goes into melt-down mode and promptly imposes an economic blockade on itself.
Dec 27, 2009, 4:06 pm
#160
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quote:
AIR CANADA LIMITS PASSENGERS TO SINGLE PERSONAL CARRY-ON ITEM IN RESPONSE TO ENHANCED SECURITY REQUIREMENTS
Why does it not say that this applies to US-bound flights only? By not saying anything, people may assume that it applies to domestic flights within Canada as well.
AIR CANADA LIMITS PASSENGERS TO SINGLE PERSONAL CARRY-ON ITEM IN RESPONSE TO ENHANCED SECURITY REQUIREMENTS
Why does it not say that this applies to US-bound flights only? By not saying anything, people may assume that it applies to domestic flights within Canada as well.
To us FFers, this may be obvious, but to the peon layperson, this could be easily misinterpreted... (based on reading this statement, of course, a traveler could spend time researching to find out that the two are different)
Dec 27, 2009, 4:13 pm
#161
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UK I will bet will continue with one carry on for couple of months. Which is why, on Monday I will ask United to re-route me via FRA for my South African trip.As I usually take 2 carry- on and my handbag.
IIRC, the no liquid cr**p insanity Lasted for 2/3 weeks.
American Business travelers complained to the US airlines,the insane liquid restrictions were modify with the one only carry-on baggage worlwide.
Only one business trip did I take powered toothpaste. IIRC, by mid trip the liquid ban had been modified and returned with regular toothpaste.
UK was the only one where one carry- on continued to be enforced for several months.
It was the UK one carry-on had impact on my travel to and via UK for few months, of course I found a way around it and never did a check bag.
Dec 27, 2009, 4:17 pm
#162
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Hey everyone - Flying YYZ to LAX on Tuesday (12/29), returning home from the Holiday season in Ontario. We brought two suitcases that were checked but definitely counted on carrying on an item or two each - gifts that I didn't want to check (medium sized photos, Wii Fit Plus 
). Not quite sure how this is going to play out for us.
Flew on United miles via Air Canada from LAX to YYZ. Debating what type of costs we would incur if we tried to move over to BUF to get back home.
). Not quite sure how this is going to play out for us.Flew on United miles via Air Canada from LAX to YYZ. Debating what type of costs we would incur if we tried to move over to BUF to get back home.
Dec 27, 2009, 4:26 pm
#163
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Dec 27, 2009, 4:33 pm
#164
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I hope you're right, but do you stand by the claim you made yesterday that the restrictions imposed were responses by Canadian carriers only and that UA has imposed no restriction on passengers moving about in the last hour of flights to the USA from other countries?
Dec 27, 2009, 4:39 pm
#165
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quote:
AIR CANADA LIMITS PASSENGERS TO SINGLE PERSONAL CARRY-ON ITEM IN RESPONSE TO ENHANCED SECURITY REQUIREMENTS
Why does it not say that this applies to US-bound flights only? By not saying anything, people may assume that it applies to domestic flights within Canada as well.
AIR CANADA LIMITS PASSENGERS TO SINGLE PERSONAL CARRY-ON ITEM IN RESPONSE TO ENHANCED SECURITY REQUIREMENTS
Why does it not say that this applies to US-bound flights only? By not saying anything, people may assume that it applies to domestic flights within Canada as well.
I fly on the 28th; we'll see how much fun it's going to be.
