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When I work the gate here in YYJ there is almost always one or two people that think they are on the 14:00 flight when they are actually on the 15:00 (for example). As we don't have scanners here, I just make sure I double check it is the correct flight number and do a double check that the names do match. That being said, we are still human and mistakes do happen (just like you sometimes give the agent the wrong boarding card).
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Anyway, is cabin crew not counting passengers before closing the doors for all flights?? If yes, they would realize there are one or two more passengers...
I can't remember if they count people for every flight. |
Originally Posted by niksal
(Post 12996667)
..How is that possible in these days? I know there is just a rapid bp-check at the gate, and apparently nobody collect bp:s, there's no electronical scanning etc. But it doesn't give very much confidence! I consider it a serious security breach that I doubt would happen on European airlines, where all boarding passes are scanned.
Is this common in US/Canada? |
Small planes (CRJ's) so he had skychecked...
Originally Posted by niksal
(Post 12997516)
I wonder what would have happened if the passenger on the wrong plane would have had luggage? Do they match the number of suitcases with what the passengers on the plane have checked in? Is it btw possible here that if I spend too much time in the lounge for instance, that my suitcases fly if I'm late from the plance (checked in but missed boarding?)
The passenger wanted to go to Montreal, instead of Toronto where the plane he was on was going. |
Originally Posted by HerpaYvr
(Post 12997233)
...I guess when you been flying your entire life its easy and there are many who flying is not a common occurance so it can happen. That last check at the door of the plane is the safety net!
It's also very easy to board the wrong regional flight if you're not paying attention. The regional Jazz C38 gates at YVR are well-marked, but many a person has lined up to board the Castlegar plane instead of Cranbrook; Kamloops instead of Kelowna. It's even worse in SEA at the Horizon C2 gates, as often the city is not labeled at the door in the 'tunnel' to the planes - generally, the baggage guys query you as you approach ("Kelowna?"). And perhaps that's all an FA needs to do in the doorway - simply ask "Winnipeg?" if there is any possibility of confusion. It may not solve a Rapidair scenario where flights leave every hour for the same destination, but it may minimize the disruptions real and perceived. |
I consider it a security breach as I can have my suitcase with whatever in it on one plane, and me sitting on another plane (yes, they are screened etc). Let's not get started on a discussion about on which side of the pond you are more paranoid...
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Originally Posted by niksal
(Post 13000511)
I consider it a security breach as I can have my suitcase with whatever in it on one plane, and me sitting on another plane (yes, they are screened etc). Let's not get started on a discussion about on which side of the pond you are more paranoid...
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Originally Posted by CdnFlier
(Post 12998633)
My favourite was a few years ago on a flight from YHZ-YYZ and two people apparantly were assigned the same seat, anyway after some digging they realized that one of them was Mr. "Joe Smith" and the other person was Captain "Joe Smith" and somehow the checkin system ignored the prefix and put their seats as one. I'm sure it wasn't amusing for either of them.. but quite the rare situation (I suspect)!
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Originally Posted by yule_boy
(Post 13009360)
So which one travelled as an "infant on parent's lap"? :D
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Originally Posted by niksal
(Post 13000511)
... let's not get started on a discussion about on which side of the pond you are more paranoid...
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i'm surprised not all stations have the scanners....
mind you it seems like 90% of gate agents are afraid of technology and don't use them anyways - that would fix this problem pretty quickly. what I would like to see is the ID check being done at CATSA rather than at the gate - when I pass security it should be a decompression zone where no one asks me for anything but my boarding pass (and cert! :) ). |
Can't believe they don't scan all BPs. Scanning catches this stuff instantly.
Originally Posted by threepoint
(Post 13006920)
I don't understand the logic here. If a bag has passed screening, then it shouldn't be a security threat regardless of which airplane it's on.
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Originally Posted by threepoint
(Post 13006920)
In fact, most of the stuff in the hold beneath your feet on any given flight is being transported without an accompanying passenger.
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A friend who is a SE did it ended up in YOW instead of YUL rather funny really. He goes WOW how can this happen.
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Originally Posted by why fly
(Post 13020605)
A friend who is a SE did it ended up in YOW instead of YUL rather funny really. He goes WOW how can this happen.
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