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Old Oct 20, 2015, 2:16 am
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BDL-AMS fell victim to the NWA takeover and the Global Financial Crisis.

Connecticut has a population of 3.5 million. True, JFK and BOS are each little more than 100 miles away from Hartford - about the same as the distance from Shannon to DUB.

It's not beyond the realms of possibility that a single transatlantic flight from BDL to DUB, with onward connections to the rest of Europe, could work.
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Old Oct 20, 2015, 6:50 am
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Originally Posted by irishguy28
True, JFK and BOS are each little more than 100 miles away from Hartford - about the same as the distance from Shannon to DUB.
Don't forget that just a few years ago driving from DUB to SNN was 5.5+ hour drive. BDL was never in a similar position.
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Old Oct 20, 2015, 10:23 am
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Originally Posted by rcurry01
Don't forget that just a few years ago driving from DUB to SNN was 5.5+ hour drive. BDL was never in a similar position.
And yet there was no fall-off in the number of transatlantic services from SNN even with the better roads to Dublin...
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Old Oct 20, 2015, 11:21 am
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Originally Posted by rcurry01
Don't forget that just a few years ago driving from DUB to SNN was 5.5+ hour drive. BDL was never in a similar position.
Ah yes, the E20 road which terminates at Shannon airport terminal building. Going the other way, it finishes up at Nevsky Prospekt in St. Petersburg.

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Old Oct 20, 2015, 3:37 pm
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Cleared For Takeoff: Aer Lingus At Bradley International


HARTFORD -- Gov. Dannel P. Malloy Wednesday will announce that a direct trans-Atlantic flight will again depart from Bradley International Airport, after a six-year absence.

Aer Lingus, the national airline of Ireland, will add a route between Bradley and Dublin, lured by up to $5 million in incentives from the state. It was unclear Tuesday when service would begin.

An e-mail from Gov. Malloy's office obtained by The Courant is inviting legislators to a formal announcement of the deal on Wednesday afternoon at the airport. A spokesperson for Aer Lingus was not immediately available for comment Tuesday.

Restoration of a trans-Atlantic flight has been a priority since the Connecticut Airport Authority was formed three years ago. A trans-Atlantic flight is seen as crucial to economic development efforts in the area, including the "Knowledge Corridor" initiative, stretching between Springfield and New Haven.

Speculation intensified last week on social media and in Irish travel publications that an announcement about a Hartford-to-Dublin flight was imminent.

The effort to attract Aer Lingus surfaced last spring, right before Gov. Dannel P. Malloy visited Dublin to meet with airline executives to discuss the possibility of an international flight.

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Two weeks ago, Bradley's lack of a trans-Atlantic flight was again in the news. Reuters reported that Norwegian Air Shuttle was considering one-way tickets to Europe for as low as $69 as early as 2017 from U.S. airports that have little or no international service. Bradley was mentioned specifically.

Dillon confirmed Bradley was in discussion with the Norwegian air discounter and other airlines offering international service but he did not name them. However, he did say negotiations with Aer Lingus were still underway, and that "they are still alive, very much so."

Northwest Airlines offered a daily nonstop flight to Amsterdam from Bradley from July 2007 to October 2008. The flight was canceled after Northwest merged with Delta Air Lines, which cited the then-ailing economy and poor advance bookings. Delta said it would consider resuming the flight in the future.
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Old Oct 21, 2015, 3:32 am
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The schedule for LAX is now loaded:

http://airlineroute.net/2015/10/21/ei-lax-s16/
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EWR is back from Sept 1 also
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Old Oct 21, 2015, 4:58 am
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So they may be going head-to-head with Ethiopian on more than just the LAX route!!!

Ethiopian have announced they will start New York [not yet clear if it will be JFK or EWR] from June, with Chicago and Houston possibly following from 2017.

It is not yet confirmed that these will operate via DUB, but it seems likely.

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Ethiopian could expand Dublin hub as expansion in US continues

Ethiopian has not yet decided if it will serve its three planned new US destinations non-stop eastbound or with a stopover in both directions, which would enable it to take advantage of fifth freedom traffic. “We are now measuring the size of the traffic whether it makes sense to fly direct from or need to stop in Europe,” Mr GebreMariam said. “If the market is not big enough to begin with then we can stop both ways in Dublin.”

The new Addis Ababa-Dublin-Los Angeles flight has performed well since it was launched in Jun-2015, giving Ethiopian confidence it can succeed in other Dublin-US markets. Ethiopian achieved an average load factor on the Addis Ababa-Dublin-Los Angeles route of 75% to 80% in the summer 2015 season with a significant number of passengers embarking or disembarking in Dublin.

Ethiopian at the same time also changed the westbound stop of its Toronto and Washington flights to Dublin. There are now three Ethiopian departures from Dublin within a span of less than 30m on some mornings, a time Dublin Airport affectionately refers to as Ethiopian hour. “Dublin is becoming a very popular hub for us,” Mr GebreMariam said.

Dublin is keen for Ethiopian to further expand the hub with stopovers in both directions for its future US routes. Toronto and Washington are purely technical stops – although still good business for Dublin – and are unlikely to have eastbound stops in future as they are large enough local markets to support non-stops.

Dublin-New York would represent a different and perhaps more challenging market than Dublin-Los Angeles, which is not served non-stop by any other carrier. Aer Lingus, American, Delta and United all serve the Dublin-New York market and Ethiopian will likely not be able to partner with United on the route due to restrictions with United’s trans-Atlantic joint venture with the Lufthansa Group and Air Canada. But Dublin-New York is a much bigger local market and Ethiopian will have one year of building its brand in the Irish market by the time it launches New York.

Dublin-Chicago is served by American and Aer Lingus while Dublin-Houston currently does not have any non-stop service.
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Old Oct 21, 2015, 5:22 am
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Ethiopian aren't using pre clearance which is what Dublin passengers have grown to expect and is the basis of the success of the TATL ops in Dublin in the last few years

Also have limited feed options from SAS, LH & Turkish as the only star alliance carriers in Dublin, none of which connect to the morning LAX departure

Where as EI has pre clearance, T2, and extensive connection options at both ends.
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Old Oct 21, 2015, 5:35 am
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While all those points are true, ET is not exactly looking to obtain feed from other carriers at DUB. DUB is mostly a technical stop for the westbound flights, and only the LAX flight stops there on the eastbound. As stated above, they would only take up 5th freedom rights on the new services until such time as the market allows non-stop on the Eastbound.

Aer Lingus' announcement of LAX may have a big impact on their loads to LAX, though. Interesting to see how that will play out.

Some people might be happy to forego the pre-clearance in DUB when it gets you to the US so much earlier in the day.
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Old Oct 21, 2015, 6:14 am
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BDL, EWR and LAX have now been officially confirmed:

http://blog.aerlingus.com/blog/2015/...e-usa-for-2016
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Old Oct 21, 2015, 7:33 am
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Originally Posted by irishguy28

Aer Lingus' announcement of LAX may have a big impact on their loads to LAX, though. Interesting to see how that will play out.

Some people might be happy to forego the pre-clearance in DUB when it gets you to the US so much earlier in the day.
Couple of decent points there. I'd suspect that a domestic audience would look first at EI. I imagine many people aren't even aware of the ET flight.

Looking at pending OW integration, landing @ 6pm sounds like it might limit onward connections with AA, but perhaps they see plenty of point-to-point business

Anyway, it's great to have another non-stop west coast option, that will potentially be open to award bookings.

According to airmilescalculator, DUB to BDL is 3072 miles, so unfortunately just outside the 3000m limit that would allow an 25k/75K avios econ/biz return.

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Old Oct 21, 2015, 8:02 am
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Thread title has been updated to reflect today's announcement.

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Old Oct 21, 2015, 10:22 am
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From a purely personal point of view.......

LAX - Yahoo, brilliant ^

BDL - Meh

EWR - Mmmm Interesting

Question = for a trip to New York, is it easier / simpler to get to & from Manhattan via EWR compared to JFK ? If so, well then ^

I wonder though what aircraft though EWR, if the A330 great, but not on your life am I crossing the Atlantic on a 757
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Old Oct 21, 2015, 10:36 am
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From a purely personal point of view.......

LAX - Yahoo, brilliant ^

BDL - Meh

EWR - Mmmm Interesting

Question = for a trip to New York, is it easier / simpler to get to & from Manhattan via EWR compared to JFK ? If so, well then ^

I wonder though what aircraft though EWR, if the A330 great, but not on your life am I crossing the Atlantic on a 757
Disappointing that they will be using T7 at LAX apparently, with all the OW lounge facilities at Bradley. Maybe with preclearance they just went with cheapest gate facilities
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