Aegean and Emirates sign codeshare agreement
Aug 27, 2022, 7:16 am
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At least not in the past 10 years where I have been an M+B member.
Aug 28, 2022, 3:59 am
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So the codeshare agreement works two ways. The Emirates flights operated by Aegean should earn miles in any case. This is similar to the RO codeshare flight ATH-OTP operated by A3, I can say from experience that you will get A3 miles for that one.
If (and that is a big if) they would allow earning on EK operated flights with an A3 flight number then I would expect that to be using a different earning scheme compared to regular A3 operated flights. Most likely the earning would be less.
Results from https://www.ExpertFlyer.com
At this moment it does not look like A3 codeshares have been added to the EK flight yet. So theoretically anything is possible still.
If (and that is a big if) they would allow earning on EK operated flights with an A3 flight number then I would expect that to be using a different earning scheme compared to regular A3 operated flights. Most likely the earning would be less.
Results from https://www.ExpertFlyer.com
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Flight Timetables Search: Search ATH to NYC on 12/10/22 Flight Stops Depart Arrive Aircraft Duration Frequency Effective Ending LH (UA) 8841 0 ATH 12:15 EWR 15:55 787 10 hrs 40 mins Daily 01/10/22 29/10/22 SN (UA) 8814 0 ATH 12:15 EWR 15:55 787 10 hrs 40 mins Daily 01/10/22 29/10/22 UA 125 0 ATH 12:15 EWR 15:55 781 10 hrs 40 mins Daily 01/10/22 29/10/22 AF (DL) 3576 0 ATH 12:20 JFK 16:25 333 11 hrs 5 mins Daily 06/10/22 29/10/22 DL 203 0 ATH 12:20 JFK 16:25 333 11 hrs 5 mins Daily 06/10/22 29/10/22 KL (DL) 6046 0 ATH 12:20 JFK 16:25 333 11 hrs 5 mins Daily 06/10/22 29/10/22 VS (DL) 3908 0 ATH 12:20 JFK 16:25 333 11 hrs 5 mins Daily 06/10/22 29/10/22 AA 333 0 ATH 13:02 JFK 16:44 772 10 hrs 42 mins Daily 07/10/22 27/10/22 BA (AA) 1643 0 ATH 13:02 JFK 16:44 772 10 hrs 42 mins Daily 07/10/22 27/10/22 AY (AA) 4160 0 ATH 13:02 JFK 16:44 772 10 hrs 42 mins Daily 07/10/22 27/10/22 IB (AA) 4366 0 ATH 13:02 JFK 16:44 772 10 hrs 42 mins Daily 07/10/22 27/10/22 B6 (AA) 4485 0 ATH 13:02 JFK 16:44 772 10 hrs 42 mins Daily 07/10/22 27/10/22 EK 209 0 ATH 17:35 EWR 21:20 77W 10 hrs 45 mins Daily 18/08/22 29/10/22 B6 (EK) 5032 0 ATH 17:35 EWR 21:20 77W 10 hrs 45 mins Daily 18/08/22 29/10/22
Aug 28, 2022, 5:43 am
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It was clearly stated in the articles that the codeshare agreement which is currently in effect only involves part of Aegean's domestic network and the Emirates flights to Dubai from Athens. It is further stated that the expansion of the codeshare agreement to include part of Aegean's european network as well as further connections with Emirates is pending authorization and will go in effect no sooner than October 
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Aug 29, 2022, 12:52 pm
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Who? Emirates? They've been flying Athens to New York (well Newark anyway) for a few years now (minus a couple of lockdown periods probably)! A friend of mine made the trip back in 2019, I think. Now regarding the codeshare including that flight all I said was, that it won't be activated until October
https://airlinergs.com/emirates-and-...partnership-2/
If you try searching for EWR or New York right now on Aegean's website, you won't find it .
https://airlinergs.com/emirates-and-...partnership-2/
Starting October 2022, Emirates and AEGEAN will further increase their joint codeshare network to include eight more European regional routes via Athens, including Bucharest, Belgrade and Naples, among others, as well as westwards on Emirates’ flights to New York Newark from Athens, and New York JFK from Milan.
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Aug 30, 2022, 1:14 am
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Emirates started flying from Athens to Newark in March 2017. It is not a new route, nor is it in any way made possible only by an A3 codeshare.
Aug 30, 2022, 1:14 am
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Who? Emirates? They've been flying Athens to New York (well Newark anyway) for a few years now (minus a couple of lockdown periods probably)! A friend of mine made the trip back in 2019, I think. Now regarding the codeshare including that flight all I said was, that it won't be activated until October
https://airlinergs.com/emirates-and-...partnership-2/
If you try searching for EWR or New York right now on Aegean's website, you won't find it.
https://airlinergs.com/emirates-and-...partnership-2/
If you try searching for EWR or New York right now on Aegean's website, you won't find it
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Aug 30, 2022, 1:16 am
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Regardless of Athens Airport's diligence in already adding the new codeshare number to that flight, no passengers are yet travelling with tickets issued using the A3 flightcode, because those codeshares are not yet on sale.
Aug 30, 2022, 4:50 am
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Why would anyone "go" to the Emirates site to book an Emirates flight with an Aegean codeshare number? The only (?) thing that comes to my mind would be a M+B Gold member flying coach twho wants to take advantage of the A3 lounge at ATH...
Aug 30, 2022, 5:25 am
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I'm expecting that the main usecase is people connecting from an A3/OA flight. In fact it is possible that they will only sell the A3 codeshare on the EK flight in combination with another A3/OA flight. For the direct ATH-EWR flight one can then just book the regular EK flight.
Aug 30, 2022, 6:14 am
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The idea of codesharing is that the airline that sought such a codeshare arrangement can sell flights bearing their own airline designator (even though, in the case of a codeshare, the flight actually operated by somebody else).
Emirates will not be selling any tickets using A3 flightcodes - either on flights operated by themselves, or on any of the flights of interest to EK that are operated by Aegean. They don't need to; they can sell "EK" coded flights on all of the flights they operate (so, it would be illogical for them to offer tickets for "A33414" rather than for "EK209" - these both being flightcodes for Emirates' Athens-Newark flight) and they can now sell "EK" coded flights on the A3-operated sectors they are interested in. The idea of entering into a codesharing arrangement is that they never need to sell a ticket including flightcodes that refer to any other airline.
If they were happy to sell tickets including flights with an A3 flight number, then they wouldn't have had to negotiate a codeshare agreement in the first place...they would just have sold Aegean flights to their customers using the regular A3 flightcodes, rather than getting A3's permission to put their own EK code on these flights too.
Emirates will not be selling any tickets using A3 flightcodes - either on flights operated by themselves, or on any of the flights of interest to EK that are operated by Aegean. They don't need to; they can sell "EK" coded flights on all of the flights they operate (so, it would be illogical for them to offer tickets for "A33414" rather than for "EK209" - these both being flightcodes for Emirates' Athens-Newark flight) and they can now sell "EK" coded flights on the A3-operated sectors they are interested in. The idea of entering into a codesharing arrangement is that they never need to sell a ticket including flightcodes that refer to any other airline.
If they were happy to sell tickets including flights with an A3 flight number, then they wouldn't have had to negotiate a codeshare agreement in the first place...they would just have sold Aegean flights to their customers using the regular A3 flightcodes, rather than getting A3's permission to put their own EK code on these flights too.
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Aug 30, 2022, 3:07 pm
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Turns out that Emirates and United are about to sign a codeshare agreement - one that potentially goes much further than the one agreed with A3
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/unit...pt-2022-a.html
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/unit...pt-2022-a.html
Sep 1, 2022, 3:41 pm
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So I'm flying Emirates from EWR in October and then Aegean to Santorini will I be able to check my bags through to Santorini now? Obviously I'll ask at EWR, but this makes this way more likely now, correct?
Sep 2, 2022, 12:20 am
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(EDITED to add: Both A3 and OA already had interline agreements with Emirates - and Etihad and Qatar Airways too - so "checking bags through", i.e. interlining, was possible long before the codeshare relationship with EK came into force).
You can ask, but expect to be refused. If your bag is however checked through, there is a chance it will not get loaded onto your A3 flight, because they will have no record of your bag being checked onto the onward flight, as you don’t have an interlined ticket so they are expecting you, and your luggage, to be checked in in the normal way at Athens.
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