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Old Jun 5, 2022, 5:35 am
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Originally Posted by fransknorge
In Star Alliance, metal counts. So if your flight is operated by SQ you will get miles based on SQ chart, in whatever class LH P maps to.
Thanks, fransknorge,

Does anybody know which bucket LH P maps to in SQ?
Given that Z, C, J, D, U buckets on SQ earn on A3, does it even matter? Would all SQ operated business flights earn on A3?
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Old Jun 5, 2022, 1:30 pm
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Originally Posted by EI147
Thanks, fransknorge,

Does anybody know which bucket LH P maps to in SQ?
Given that Z, C, J, D, U buckets on SQ earn on A3, does it even matter? Would all SQ operated business flights earn on A3?
SQ KrisFlyer gives 125% mileage on LH operated P class flights. No punishment evident here! The lowest business fare on SQ operated flights is D (lite) followed by U and both these fare buckets receive 125% on M&B.

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Old Jun 13, 2022, 1:19 pm
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Here's a positive spin on the 'punish' fares.. but it involved irrops

Flying back from Munich to Amsterdam I was offered a 65€ upgrade. Seeing as it was an eco fare in a non-earning bucket I thought why not.. Presumably booked in to P. Anyhow, the return was cancelled 30min before departure for unknown reasons. The lounge only had a few options available. KLM was offered the following day, at which point I knew they were struggling. Asked if there was any Star Alliance options and she could only find MUC-ZRH-AMS in J class.

2000 miles a sector in J is very nice (but still waiting for the 1000 LX J to post..)
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Old Jun 13, 2022, 3:03 pm
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Originally Posted by OttoMH
Here's a positive spin on the 'punish' fares.. but it involved irrops

Flying back from Munich to Amsterdam I was offered a 65€ upgrade. Seeing as it was an eco fare in a non-earning bucket I thought why not.. Presumably booked in to P. Anyhow, the return was cancelled 30min before departure for unknown reasons. The lounge only had a few options available. KLM was offered the following day, at which point I knew they were struggling. Asked if there was any Star Alliance options and she could only find MUC-ZRH-AMS in J class.

2000 miles a sector in J is very nice (but still waiting for the 1000 LX J to post..)
That's a nice outcome. I also have "good" experiences on punish fare+IRROPS.
I had booked a flight BRU-HKG RT in business P class in March 2020 when Covid start to hit Europe and flight cancellations started to kick in over the whole world. It was not easy to get rebooked but I am a FTer so although my options were limited, I really wanted TG as a rebooking as it would give me 200% A3 miles . At the moment I arrived at the airport to check-in, Thailand banned transit for foreign passengers without PCR test, which was not easy to get last-minute back in the days. I then got rebooked to LH in Z class which gave us 150% A3 miles and I arrived right before EU went in lockdown 8).
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Old Jun 13, 2022, 10:34 pm
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Originally Posted by ermis177
Yes. The P stands for Punishment. Lufthansa has decided to give 0 miles to people spending 2k for a ticket if they don’t credit to miles no more program Personally, LH has lost around 30k-40k from me in the last 5 years as I will always book other carries due to this but I am sure LH doesn’t care for such a small amount
Same here. I avoid LH P like it’s the plague. Got burned once, and that was enough — especially since that LH P fare was more expensive than the alternatives I would have purchased if I had known what P fares meant for mileage credit.
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Old Jun 14, 2022, 12:33 am
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Agree P Fares are Punishment

I am in exactly the same boat. I joined the Aegean programme as I visit Greece regularly.

Booked a Lufthansa cheap Business fare when they had some deals going earlier this year.

I hate travelling down the motorway to London Heathrow or Gatwick and prefer the easy connectivity in my local UK airport as I can get home in 1/2 hr. Therefore Star Alliance it is as there are multiple options with Brussels Airlines / Lufthansa / & Swiss from Birmingham in the UK to the Star Alliance Network.

Received my Miles going to SKG for both BHX-FRA & FRA-SKG as I think that element of the ticket had been classified as D class. I have to say the service & food in Aegean is WAY better than Lufty so you really want to choose them where possible.

BUT Inbound - no credit whatsoever as after checking with Aegean I noticed it was a labelled as P class on the ticket. Frankly I feel conned as all Business tickets previously with all other airlines in any inventory category have come with Mileage accumulation. It's left me with a sour taste in my mouth

The result is it's now a slog down to Heathrow where I'm booked on BA when I take the family * 6 to Rhodes in Oct.

Auf Wiedersein Lufthansa!
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Old Jun 14, 2022, 12:40 am
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At least you can credit those segments to something like United where the miles won't expire.
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Old Jun 14, 2022, 2:15 am
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And since you're already enrolled in Miles&Bonus and travel to Greece a lot, you can also keep an eye out for deals on Aegean flights and get your status upgraded easier than flying with other star alliance partners.
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Old Jun 21, 2022, 7:45 am
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FYI If you book an Eco Saver ticket on LO (eg RBD of 'L') and get an upgrade accepted via Plusgrade it credits as Z. So you get 105% instead of 25%
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