COVID-19: re-qualification, A3 extends status and earning period by 6 months
#108
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Heraklion, Greece
Posts: 7,565
PS You say that I'm satisfied that blue members have more difficulties reaching higher status. I wrote "there was a time when (almost) everybody was satisfied that a few years back it became more difficult to reach gold. Now "we" complain about that?" I never agreed with that statement, which was used by FTers posting opinions to the effect that a gold tier is a status of distinction in today's society
#109
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Paris
Programs: Miles&Bonus *G
Posts: 318
Now one thing I am not sure I have understood correctly is this: If someone is currently a gold member, let's say someone whose status expires on Nov. 23rd, and they get the 6-month extension all the way through May 23rd 2021... is it true that, as per current indication on their M&B account, they still only have until Nov. 23rd 2020 to get the miles required to extend/retain status? And if they manage to do it (status extended until May 23rd 2022), will they have from Nov. 24th 2020 to Nov. 23rd 2021 to extend their status from May 24th 2022 to May 23rd 2023??? If so, this is flat-out crazy, what is it going to look like in the future?? Requalification date and status validity will be 6 months apart? It might even benefit some people, but if it stays like that, I think it will only cause a huge mess, it is already looking like a big mess as I am trying to put those dates in writing!
edit: I am now guessing (also by reading some other comments) that they'll have a 6-month totally "dead" period for status miles from 24/11/2020 to 23/05/2021, where miles accrued will have zero value as status miles to get those dates to match again.... but that would be all the more reason to extend those qualification deadlines by 6 months! I mean wth?!
edit: I am now guessing (also by reading some other comments) that they'll have a 6-month totally "dead" period for status miles from 24/11/2020 to 23/05/2021, where miles accrued will have zero value as status miles to get those dates to match again.... but that would be all the more reason to extend those qualification deadlines by 6 months! I mean wth?!
I re-qualified in January and my status has been extended to May 2022. The requalification period is also shifted by 6 months. That is, I will have from May 2021 to May 2022 to requalify for Gold.
Last edited by blackball; Apr 11, 2020 at 5:30 am
#110
Join Date: Jul 2019
Posts: 1,317
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/32250878-post83.html
But yeah, it could have been a temporary glitch or them just forgetting about it in the beginning and taking care of it later on.
Yes, I do not read the rules for a status that I will fall back to when I stop flying (next year or so), I'll do it then, But, really, I don't understand why you get sort of angry just because I don't agree with everything you wrote. I have my opinion, you have yours, and the "only" argument in favour of mine is that, in my eyes, blue members are not the ones who are targeted by frequent flyer programs throughout the industry to expect a special treatment from any of those.
Anyway I wouldn't want to get this discussion to turn into a "is a mile a currency?", or "what's the true monetary value of miles?" (even more difficult for status miles!) so I could agree to disagree with this serious, customer-unfriendly oversight.
#111
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: NW London and NW Sydney
Programs: BA Diamond, Hilton Bronze, A3 Diamond, IHG *G
Posts: 6,344
I would think that, because (contrary to what the title suggests) it was already reported a few posts above...
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/32250878-post83.html
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/32250878-post83.html
Gold > Gold: 18 months
Silver > Gold: no change - still 12 months
Silver > Silver: 18 months
Blue > Silver: no change - still 12 months
However there is a big difference between these "years": the Blue > Silver and Silver > Gold are based on a rolling year. Gold > Gold and Silver > Silver years are fixed from the date you moved up, if you retain the status year-on-year.
So a blue member doesn't need to earn *more* miles to move up. It's still exactly the same, but if there are no flights for 6 months then their tier miles in the prior 6 months are wasted.
Last edited by :D!; Apr 13, 2020 at 1:15 am
#112
Join Date: Jul 2019
Posts: 1,317
and
First of all everyone who got an extension of their silver status should, in theory, be able to continue accruing miles up to that 18th month, so an upgrade to gold should still be possible (what speaks against this?).
Secondly there are case where golds and silvers get "nothing" (already retained tier through 2022).
Thirdly the only thing they left out were blues with at least (75%) 9.000 miles... clear as day and nothing to do with status privileges as I already explained and you also admit here...
Blue->Silver: 12.000/24.000 miles
Silver->Silver: 8.000/16.000 miles
Blue->Gold:24.000/48.000 36.000/72.000 miles
Silver->Gold: 24.000/48.000 miles
Gold->Gold: 12.000/24.000 miles
That's all very easy to find on Aegean's website..
Why did you think that blue members now didn't need more miles?
Silver->Silver: 8.000/16.000 miles
Blue->Gold:
Silver->Gold: 24.000/48.000 miles
Gold->Gold: 12.000/24.000 miles
That's all very easy to find on Aegean's website..
Why did you think that blue members now didn't need more miles?
These miles are still counted on a rolling 12-month basis! Aegean won't "force you" to stay silver if you've collected over 24k in 12 rolling months, regardless of when you were "downgraded" from gold to silver!
The status has a 12-month validity, but that's regarding downgrades and (again) only the status! Not the status-eligible miles!
But like I already said, perhaps people have gotten way too used to being golds and making their mileage runs in the last couple of months before the status (and perhaps just some of the miles!) expire.
PS. It isn't the ignorance that upsets me (on the contrary, I'm happy to provide valid information, I too was, and still am, ignorant to many things), but if someone can't read 1-2 simple sentences stating the obvious....
PS2.
What I am a tiny bit more interested in are status holders that still haven't extended their status. I would like to see hard evidence that someone who had say 8.000 miles, counting miles from flights from early April 2019 (or even late March 2019) and got the 6-month extension, that these miles are still there (that the "you need to accrue XY miles until XX/YY/ZZZZ" still hasn't changed, even though they now have miles "older" than 12 months there. I know that my wish won't be easily fulfilled though, since nearly everyone here extends status in November each year... edit: Yes, this is also pretty clear from the
but since, like I said, most status holders won't fall in that category, I thought I'd ask someone who does to verify that it actually works that way.
PS3. Getting a bit tired of this (and no personal interest since I wasn't looking to upgrade from blue anyway)....
Last edited by giorginho; Apr 13, 2020 at 4:16 am
#113
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Paris
Programs: Miles&Bonus *G
Posts: 318
I would think that, because (contrary to what the title suggests) it was already reported a few posts above...
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/32250878-post83.html
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/32250878-post83.html
#114
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: France
Programs: A3 *G; AC
Posts: 409
I am now more confused than ever after reading a number of posts. Perhaps someone can answer my question considering the following details. I am Gold with a previous requalification date of 24/11 on any given year. I requalified on March 12, 2020 for Gold so my card is valid until 23/05/2022 with the 6 month extension. If I fly after 24/11/2020 and before 23/05/2021, will those miles go towards my next year's qualification or will they just be added to what I have already done. I guess I am asking if my qualification date remains in November or if it has migrated to May. Thanks in advance for clearing up my confusion.
#115
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: GVA
Programs: A3 *G, LX *G, AF *S
Posts: 761
I am now more confused than ever after reading a number of posts. Perhaps someone can answer my question considering the following details. I am Gold with a previous requalification date of 24/11 on any given year. I requalified on March 12, 2020 for Gold so my card is valid until 23/05/2022 with the 6 month extension. If I fly after 24/11/2020 and before 23/05/2021, will those miles go towards my next year's qualification or will they just be added to what I have already done. I guess I am asking if my qualification date remains in November or if it has migrated to May. Thanks in advance for clearing up my confusion.
#116
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: France
Programs: A3 *G; AC
Posts: 409
Thanks very much. I had been planning to fly before 23/05/21 to requalify. I guess I will put those miles somewhere else and do the Aegean requalification later.
#117
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Just saw a wave of accounts get emails noting that the accounts went from A3*S to A3.
Can't say it's a smart business move for A3 to downgrade accounts at all in the second, third or fourth quarter of this year (2020) or even well into 2021, and yet it seems like Aegean is sending out emails now noting that some A3 elite accounts have been downgraded this month.
Can't say it's a smart business move for A3 to downgrade accounts at all in the second, third or fourth quarter of this year (2020) or even well into 2021, and yet it seems like Aegean is sending out emails now noting that some A3 elite accounts have been downgraded this month.
#118
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At least for the following scenario:
Originally Posted by GUWonder
Speaking of an A3*G account which originally had a membership tier period expiring in May 2020 and had already met the retention requirements to keep A3*G status, it show the Gold tier has been retained until November 2021. So a 6 month extension of *G status. If the account is no longer used for flights, when will the account lose *G status? November 2021?
#120
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Singapore
Programs: A3 Gold, SQ Gold, AT Gold, Accor Silver, HHonors Diamond, I Prefer Elite, DISCOVERY Titanium
Posts: 472
You have already collected the required amount of miles regarding the retention of your Gold Status
your tier had been retained up to 23/05/2022