"European Cross-Border" earnings - is TLV in "Europe"
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"European Cross-Border" earnings - is TLV in "Europe"
Hi,
I was wondering if a LH flight FRA-TLV is considered European cross-border or international for earnings purposes? I know Aegean considers TLV to be in Europe for redemption purposes - does that translate into only 1,250 miles if crediting a paid Y ticket? Thanks!
I was wondering if a LH flight FRA-TLV is considered European cross-border or international for earnings purposes? I know Aegean considers TLV to be in Europe for redemption purposes - does that translate into only 1,250 miles if crediting a paid Y ticket? Thanks!
Last edited by yonatan; Jul 11, 2019 at 6:17 am
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Not exactly true! The M+B earnings can be seen in three categories (domestic, i.e. Germany, Europe and international, i.e. long haul). The OP is correct in his question. For example, one-way FRA-TLV in Y would yield 1250 miles if TLV is considered to be "Europe" while it would yield 2760 miles if considered to be international. Mind you, I can't help either as I don't know the answer to that...
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While I agree that the original question does depend on whether TLV is Europe or long haul - LH certainly operate is with their NEK fleet, a lot with LH does come down to the booking class.
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Miles & More is a different programme. If you're earning in Aegean's Miles+Bonus, it is the T&Cs of Miles+Bonus that apply, not those of M+M
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My experience is that when it comes to earnings, the operating airline's FFP is a very very good indicator.
Honestly, I have no idea what info LH gives to A3/M+B when miles are credited but I know the following:
- SQ26 FRA-JFK in W (back when it gave 100%) lead to a credit of 3,847 miles which is exactly the distance SQ uses when crediting to Krisflyer
- LH404 FRA-JFK in N (which also gives 100%) lead to a credit of 3,837 miles which (once again) is the distance LH uses for credits to M+M
Call me crazy, but there is more going on than LH just telling A3 that the flight was from FRA to JFK.
I think that LH computes the miles for A3, based on the agreements they have.
Therefore, it matters what LH considers Europe.
And to figure that out, M+M is a very good starting point.
Obviously, an alternative explanation can be that LH send over the routing as well as what they think the distance is.
This is something that has been going through my head for quite some time now, since it seems so odd that LH and SQ give different miles on the same route.
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As such, while the “faulty logic” of checking what the operating airline would award for a given flight turns out to give the correct answer in this case, the logic used to arrive at the correct answer is wrong.