Trying to get gold status
Apr 11, 19, 5:20 am
#1
Original Poster
Join Date: Oct 2017
Posts: 43
Trying to get gold status
Hello guys
i will try to get a return ticket in business class from CAIRO to DENPASAR with Turkish airlines and ATHENS to CAIRO and back with AEGEAN in business class + 4 domestic return flights with Olympic in economy before the big trip
will that be enough miles to go gold with Aegean?
thanks
i will try to get a return ticket in business class from CAIRO to DENPASAR with Turkish airlines and ATHENS to CAIRO and back with AEGEAN in business class + 4 domestic return flights with Olympic in economy before the big trip
will that be enough miles to go gold with Aegean?
thanks
Apr 11, 19, 6:03 am
#2
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: ARN
Programs: A3*G, SK*G
Posts: 336
Just to confirm that I got this right. Your trips are as follows:
1. CAI-ISL-DPS-ISL-CAI in TK biz ~21.5 K
2. ATH-CAI-ATH in A3 biz --> 3.2K
3. 4x2=8 domestic segments in OA econ --> 1.6K--4.8K, depending on the booking class
From your question I assume that you do not already have any other tier miles in your M&B account or status with A3.
Or am I wrong? If you are already A3*S, then this should be more than enough to land you A3*G. Provided of course that all segments are in an earning fare class (i.e. in this case paid, not award or econ upgraded). Then you will in fact need only one paid domestic return trip (2 segments) with OA since your two segments in (2) already count towards your 4 A3/OA segments.
If you are not A3*S, then things are more complicated, as the order in which you take these flights matters. The best would be to take them in an order such that you have two A3/OA segments before you reach 12K miles. But even then the trips you describe are not sufficient to get you to G.
So starting from point zero, the minimum requirement for A3*G is:
1. 12K+24K=36K tier miles AND
2. 2+4=6 segments on A3/OA
provided that you take the flights in the appropriate order (see remark above). In your case you don't meet the first requirement.
1. CAI-ISL-DPS-ISL-CAI in TK biz ~21.5 K
2. ATH-CAI-ATH in A3 biz --> 3.2K
3. 4x2=8 domestic segments in OA econ --> 1.6K--4.8K, depending on the booking class
From your question I assume that you do not already have any other tier miles in your M&B account or status with A3.
Or am I wrong? If you are already A3*S, then this should be more than enough to land you A3*G. Provided of course that all segments are in an earning fare class (i.e. in this case paid, not award or econ upgraded). Then you will in fact need only one paid domestic return trip (2 segments) with OA since your two segments in (2) already count towards your 4 A3/OA segments.
If you are not A3*S, then things are more complicated, as the order in which you take these flights matters. The best would be to take them in an order such that you have two A3/OA segments before you reach 12K miles. But even then the trips you describe are not sufficient to get you to G.
So starting from point zero, the minimum requirement for A3*G is:
1. 12K+24K=36K tier miles AND
2. 2+4=6 segments on A3/OA
provided that you take the flights in the appropriate order (see remark above). In your case you don't meet the first requirement.
Last edited by East_and_West; Apr 11, 19 at 6:17 am Reason: In A3 they are actually called "tier miles", not "basic miles"... Fixed that :)
Apr 11, 19, 7:21 am
#4
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Join Date: Oct 2017
Posts: 43
Just to confirm that I got this right. Your trips are as follows:
1. CAI-ISL-DPS-ISL-CAI in TK biz ~21.5 K
2. ATH-CAI-ATH in A3 biz --> 3.2K
3. 4x2=8 domestic segments in OA econ --> 1.6K--4.8K, depending on the booking class
From your question I assume that you do not already have any other tier miles in your M&B account or status with A3.
Or am I wrong? If you are already A3*S, then this should be more than enough to land you A3*G. Provided of course that all segments are in an earning fare class (i.e. in this case paid, not award or econ upgraded). Then you will in fact need only one paid domestic return trip (2 segments) with OA since your two segments in (2) already count towards your 4 A3/OA segments.
If you are not A3*S, then things are more complicated, as the order in which you take these flights matters. The best would be to take them in an order such that you have two A3/OA segments before you reach 12K miles. But even then the trips you describe are not sufficient to get you to G.
So starting from point zero, the minimum requirement for A3*G is:
1. 12K+24K=36K tier miles AND
2. 2+4=6 segments on A3/OA
provided that you take the flights in the appropriate order (see remark above). In your case you don't meet the first requirement.
1. CAI-ISL-DPS-ISL-CAI in TK biz ~21.5 K
2. ATH-CAI-ATH in A3 biz --> 3.2K
3. 4x2=8 domestic segments in OA econ --> 1.6K--4.8K, depending on the booking class
From your question I assume that you do not already have any other tier miles in your M&B account or status with A3.
Or am I wrong? If you are already A3*S, then this should be more than enough to land you A3*G. Provided of course that all segments are in an earning fare class (i.e. in this case paid, not award or econ upgraded). Then you will in fact need only one paid domestic return trip (2 segments) with OA since your two segments in (2) already count towards your 4 A3/OA segments.
If you are not A3*S, then things are more complicated, as the order in which you take these flights matters. The best would be to take them in an order such that you have two A3/OA segments before you reach 12K miles. But even then the trips you describe are not sufficient to get you to G.
So starting from point zero, the minimum requirement for A3*G is:
1. 12K+24K=36K tier miles AND
2. 2+4=6 segments on A3/OA
provided that you take the flights in the appropriate order (see remark above). In your case you don't meet the first requirement.
thats correct
i am a millionaire in miles but without a status
so in order to get gold first you have to be silver and the collect the 24k for gold?
i thought you could do that directly, I guess I had that one the wrong way
the 2 return tickets of Olympic air will give me 1400 miles
the ATH-CAI-ATH will give me 3200 miles and the TK flight to Bali will give me about 15.400 miles more or less according to TK website
So I need to have another big one
bummer
Apr 11, 19, 7:48 am
#6
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: ARN
Programs: A3*G, SK*G
Posts: 336
To upgrade from Silver to the Gold Tier, all you need to do is fly Aegean or Olympic Air at least four times and earn 24,000 Tier Miles within 12 months or collect a total 48,000 Tier Miles, regardless of which airline you choose to fly with. Whichever you do first will get you there.
I am not sure that this info can be actually on TK's website. May the figure you got applies to miles for Miles & Smiles (TK's FFP), not M&B. The relevant info, based on the fare class you book in, can be again found on M&B's website:
https://en.aegeanair.com/milesandbon...ish%20Airlines
Most paid TK business class fares earn 150% on M&B, apart from J which earns 100% as mentioned by @RedChili. (I think that J is actually the fare bucket that upgraded econ tickets are reissued in, but I may be mistaken)
https://en.aegeanair.com/milesandbon...ish%20Airlines
Most paid TK business class fares earn 150% on M&B, apart from J which earns 100% as mentioned by @RedChili. (I think that J is actually the fare bucket that upgraded econ tickets are reissued in, but I may be mistaken)
Apr 11, 19, 7:50 am
#7
Join Date: Feb 2015
Programs: A3 *G
Posts: 31
Even cheapest TK business class flights from CAI book into K so it will be 150% flown distance.
I assume that ATH-CAI RT is positioning flight for CAI-DPS trip and ATH-CAI will take place before CAI-DPS and CAI-ATH after. I also assume that have 0 miles before first flight flight. Trip ATH CAI is paid business class ticket
I'm not sure how many miles will you get for 8 domestic segments (I assume 3000)
System will give you silver status on the date you made flight IST-DPS (1600 miles for ATH-CAI, 10825 miles for CAI-IST-DPS and two A3 flights).
From this day you will start to earn miles for gold status. You will have 10825 miles for DPS-IST-CAI and 1600 for CAI-ATH leg and miles left from silver (12000-3000-1600-10825 is about 3425. 10825+1600+3425=15850. 24000-15850=8150. It will remain 8150 plus 3 A3/OA flights as previous flight too place when you were blue or silver.
It would be better if you take at least 4 of your 8 OA flights after DPS trip. Then you will need just 8150 miles.
I assume that ATH-CAI RT is positioning flight for CAI-DPS trip and ATH-CAI will take place before CAI-DPS and CAI-ATH after. I also assume that have 0 miles before first flight flight. Trip ATH CAI is paid business class ticket
I'm not sure how many miles will you get for 8 domestic segments (I assume 3000)
System will give you silver status on the date you made flight IST-DPS (1600 miles for ATH-CAI, 10825 miles for CAI-IST-DPS and two A3 flights).
From this day you will start to earn miles for gold status. You will have 10825 miles for DPS-IST-CAI and 1600 for CAI-ATH leg and miles left from silver (12000-3000-1600-10825 is about 3425. 10825+1600+3425=15850. 24000-15850=8150. It will remain 8150 plus 3 A3/OA flights as previous flight too place when you were blue or silver.
It would be better if you take at least 4 of your 8 OA flights after DPS trip. Then you will need just 8150 miles.
Apr 11, 19, 8:10 am
#9
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Join Date: Oct 2017
Posts: 43
Even cheapest TK business class flights from CAI book into K so it will be 150% flown distance.
I assume that ATH-CAI RT is positioning flight for CAI-DPS trip and ATH-CAI will take place before CAI-DPS and CAI-ATH after. I also assume that have 0 miles before first flight flight. Trip ATH CAI is paid business class ticket
I'm not sure how many miles will you get for 8 domestic segments (I assume 3000)
System will give you silver status on the date you made flight IST-DPS (1600 miles for ATH-CAI, 10825 miles for CAI-IST-DPS and two A3 flights).
From this day you will start to earn miles for gold status. You will have 10825 miles for DPS-IST-CAI and 1600 for CAI-ATH leg and miles left from silver (12000-3000-1600-10825 is about 3425. 10825+1600+3425=15850. 24000-15850=8150. It will remain 8150 plus 3 A3/OA flights as previous flight too place when you were blue or silver.
It would be better if you take at least 4 of your 8 OA flights after DPS trip. Then you will need just 8150 miles.
I assume that ATH-CAI RT is positioning flight for CAI-DPS trip and ATH-CAI will take place before CAI-DPS and CAI-ATH after. I also assume that have 0 miles before first flight flight. Trip ATH CAI is paid business class ticket
I'm not sure how many miles will you get for 8 domestic segments (I assume 3000)
System will give you silver status on the date you made flight IST-DPS (1600 miles for ATH-CAI, 10825 miles for CAI-IST-DPS and two A3 flights).
From this day you will start to earn miles for gold status. You will have 10825 miles for DPS-IST-CAI and 1600 for CAI-ATH leg and miles left from silver (12000-3000-1600-10825 is about 3425. 10825+1600+3425=15850. 24000-15850=8150. It will remain 8150 plus 3 A3/OA flights as previous flight too place when you were blue or silver.
It would be better if you take at least 4 of your 8 OA flights after DPS trip. Then you will need just 8150 miles.
i have to make a different strategy
i need 8000 miles to get silver
I can do that before I will take the ATH-CAI flight
does that make any sense?
Apr 12, 19, 1:27 am
#11
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: PAS, Paros Greece
Programs: A3 *G
Posts: 1,350
Is this trip set in stone and do you actually HAVE to fly TK? Do you need to be in CAI? I just ask because if the main purpose of the trip is to get as many miles as needed for A3*G (while travelling from ATH-DPS) there are probably better ways to earn more miles. For example Ethiopian offer 200% on all business class tickets and fly to a few points in SE Asia. You would have to connect at both ends but you'd earn around 30k miles just for the ET segments alone (FCO-ADD-KUL for example). The same would be true of SK (ATH-CPH-HKG would earn around 26k). Just a thought.
Apr 12, 19, 2:03 am
#12
Join Date: May 2008
Location: ARN
Posts: 3,452
Most paid TK business class fares earn 150% on M&B, apart from J which earns 100% as mentioned by @RedChili. (I think that J is actually the fare bucket that upgraded econ tickets are reissued in, but I may be mistaken)
Apr 12, 19, 5:15 am
#13
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Join Date: Oct 2017
Posts: 43
Is this trip set in stone and do you actually HAVE to fly TK? Do you need to be in CAI? I just ask because if the main purpose of the trip is to get as many miles as needed for A3*G (while travelling from ATH-DPS) there are probably better ways to earn more miles. For example Ethiopian offer 200% on all business class tickets and fly to a few points in SE Asia. You would have to connect at both ends but you'd earn around 30k miles just for the ET segments alone (FCO-ADD-KUL for example). The same would be true of SK (ATH-CPH-HKG would earn around 26k). Just a thought.
Cairo is the place that you can get the cheapest business class tickets
a return ticket to Bali will cost 1.300 euro from Cairo and 2.300 euro from Athens, so I can utilize the 1.000 euro to get more miles
that was my thinking but I should definitely look in to Ethiopian and SAS
Thank you for the advise
Have fun in Paros mate its a beautiful island
Apr 12, 19, 7:37 am
#14
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Join Date: May 2011
Location: London
Programs: *A G, OW S.
Posts: 996
I had a ticket with TK a couple of years ago which booked directly into J. It was a very cheap ticket, so maybe the underlying fare was an economy with an upgrade to business. But I booked it on the TK web site and chose business class, so for the customer, it appeared to be a regular business class ticket.
