Transiting Athens as Star Alliance Gold
Apr 8, 2019, 12:12 pm
#16
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Wedged somewhere between BTS and VIE ✈
Programs: Star Alliance Gold (A3 Gold), Oneworld Emerald (BA Gold), Hilton Diamond
Posts: 6,338
Agreed KLouis and ISTFlyer, the Star Alliance website doesn't make it clear. The Wikipedia information is very misleading. Who is writing this stuff!?
I blame Star Alliance for not listing affiliates, like oneworld does.
https://www.oneworld.com/members/british-airways
I blame Star Alliance for not listing affiliates, like oneworld does.
https://www.oneworld.com/members/british-airways
Apr 8, 2019, 11:51 pm
#18
Join Date: May 2008
Location: ARN
Posts: 3,470
I read the Wiki page differently than you guys are. It says "Member" and "Affiliates" as two separate things. It never claims that the affiliates are members. It just lists the affiliates of each member airline. "Affiliate" does not mean "affiliate of Star Alliance," but "affiliate of an airline which is a member of Star Alliance." So, member airline Lufthansa has four affiliates: Air Dolomiti, Lufthansa Regional, Lufthansa CityLine, and SunExpress Deutschland. These four airlines are not Star Alliance members, and their flights are not Star Alliance flights, unless LH wet-leases one of their planes for their own flights.
Apr 9, 2019, 10:01 am
#19
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: ARN
Programs: A3*G, SK*G
Posts: 336
I read the Wiki page differently than you guys are. It says "Member" and "Affiliates" as two separate things. It never claims that the affiliates are members. It just lists the affiliates of each member airline. "Affiliate" does not mean "affiliate of Star Alliance," but "affiliate of an airline which is a member of Star Alliance." So, member airline Lufthansa has four affiliates: Air Dolomiti, Lufthansa Regional, Lufthansa CityLine, and SunExpress Deutschland. These four airlines are not Star Alliance members, and their flights are not Star Alliance flights, unless LH wet-leases one of their planes for their own flights.
FFP: M&B
Parent Company: A3 (or Holding Group: A3 Group [if applicable]).
Apr 9, 2019, 7:11 pm
#20
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Amsterdam
Programs: A3, BA, OZ,
Posts: 1,098
But this whole thing has me wondering. What is to stop A3 from remaining as a *A member and keeping A3 codeshares with all of its *A partners but just calling all of their flights Olympic and never giving any *A miles or benefits to anybody? Because it is very clear that it has nothing to do with the planes or crew and really just seems like A3 is having their cake and eating it.
Apr 9, 2019, 7:19 pm
#21
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Heraklion, Greece
Posts: 7,564
I would say it is actually opposite of 'operating carrier that counts' with A3 and OA. Most of those flights to Cyprus are operated by Aegean but are considered 'Olympic' while Olympic planes operate several international routes like Zagreb or Istanbul, but those are considered Aegean and get *A miles.
But this whole thing has me wondering. What is to stop A3 from remaining as a *A member and keeping A3 codeshares with all of its *A partners but just calling all of their flights Olympic and never giving any *A miles or benefits to anybody? Because it is very clear that it has nothing to do with the planes or crew and really just seems like A3 is having their cake and eating it.
But this whole thing has me wondering. What is to stop A3 from remaining as a *A member and keeping A3 codeshares with all of its *A partners but just calling all of their flights Olympic and never giving any *A miles or benefits to anybody? Because it is very clear that it has nothing to do with the planes or crew and really just seems like A3 is having their cake and eating it.
Apr 10, 2019, 1:17 am
#22
Join Date: May 2008
Location: ARN
Posts: 3,470
There's actually a Wiki page called "Star Alliance affiliate members." See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catego...iliate_members
Olympic, SAS Ireland, Jazz, and TAP Express are listed on that page. Quite bad, since Star doesn't have any affiliate members at all.
Apr 12, 2019, 6:02 pm
#23
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Amsterdam
Programs: A3, BA, OZ,
Posts: 1,098
This has been discussed at length in a different, dedicated thread, there is no reason to "highjack" this one.
Couldn't you say that about this whole thread? Didn't realise my comment was 'highjacking'.
Apr 16, 2019, 2:51 pm
#24
Original Poster
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 67
This has been discussed at length in a different, dedicated thread, there is no reason to "highjack" this one.
Apr 22, 2019, 10:17 am
#25
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: YYZ / HKG / DXB
Programs: Emirates Silver, Marriott Platinum... Previously AC*SE100K, Star Alliance Gold, Bonvoy Ambassador
Posts: 127
I am Air Canada Star Alliance Gold and booked a few flights on Olympic Air ATH->JTR, JMK->ATH and put my Aeroplan number in the booking. It recognized my Gold Status and gave me an extra free bag.
I'm hoping that I can get into the lounge in Athens, Santorini, and Mykonos!
I'm hoping that I can get into the lounge in Athens, Santorini, and Mykonos!
Apr 22, 2019, 10:59 am
#26
Suspended
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: London, UK.
Programs: SQ LPPS, A3 *G, BA Silver aiming for Bronze
Posts: 1,506
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Jul 23, 2019, 5:04 am
#28
Original Poster
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 67
Just back to reply that we had our trip through Athens to Larnaka (Air Canada Rouge, connecting on Aegean with separate tickets), then back through Athens to Crete (Aegean), and then again back home through Athens (on Air Canada Rouge). As a Star Alliance Gold member, we had no issue accessing the Aegean Lounge or priority boarding and had an absolutely wonderful time with the whole Aegean experience. I was pleasantly surprised.
Jul 23, 2019, 1:29 pm
#29
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Tampa
Programs: A3
Posts: 109
I read the Wiki page differently than you guys are. It says "Member" and "Affiliates" as two separate things. It never claims that the affiliates are members. It just lists the affiliates of each member airline. "Affiliate" does not mean "affiliate of Star Alliance," but "affiliate of an airline which is a member of Star Alliance." So, member airline Lufthansa has four affiliates: Air Dolomiti, Lufthansa Regional, Lufthansa CityLine, and SunExpress Deutschland. These four airlines are not Star Alliance members, and their flights are not Star Alliance flights, unless LH wet-leases one of their planes for their own flights.
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/24505727-post17.html