Last edit by: NWIFlyer
With the evolution of the Miles&Bonus program, there are a number of threads on this forum that contain outdated information, plus a further set that - whilst describing the new program - contain conflicting information that has only been crystallised as we all discover how certain aspects of the program either work or are interpreted.
It is perhaps therefore unsurprising that many new members find searching through this myriad of threads a little daunting, and consequently they post a question in one of the FAQ threads.
This tends to irk those who've been around for a while who expect the new posters to at least do some basic searching before posting a question that has probably been asked many times before. This also causes the forums to become very congested and less easy to read through with the same question being asked and answered many times.
I am therefore creating a thread, which will be stickied, for anyone to ask any question they like about the M&B program where they are unsure or it's not obvious where they should be posting it.
There is no such thing in this thread as a stupid question, no issue with asking a repeat question, and any answers should be 100% flame-free. I will take a dim view of anyone that abuses a member or provides a less than helpful answer (such as 'do a search') to any question asked in here, because this is being created to benefit all of us so the other threads flow more cleanly. Thank you for your co-operation on this.
It might be that I move questions to more appropriate threads so they receive an answer more quickly, but if I do so I will always add a note to indicate where they originated, and ask that the flame-free answer principle be respected.
NWIFlyer
Moderator
Aegean M&B
It is perhaps therefore unsurprising that many new members find searching through this myriad of threads a little daunting, and consequently they post a question in one of the FAQ threads.
This tends to irk those who've been around for a while who expect the new posters to at least do some basic searching before posting a question that has probably been asked many times before. This also causes the forums to become very congested and less easy to read through with the same question being asked and answered many times.
I am therefore creating a thread, which will be stickied, for anyone to ask any question they like about the M&B program where they are unsure or it's not obvious where they should be posting it.
There is no such thing in this thread as a stupid question, no issue with asking a repeat question, and any answers should be 100% flame-free. I will take a dim view of anyone that abuses a member or provides a less than helpful answer (such as 'do a search') to any question asked in here, because this is being created to benefit all of us so the other threads flow more cleanly. Thank you for your co-operation on this.
It might be that I move questions to more appropriate threads so they receive an answer more quickly, but if I do so I will always add a note to indicate where they originated, and ask that the flame-free answer principle be respected.
NWIFlyer
Moderator
Aegean M&B
Flame-Free Questions on A3 - ask your newbie (and not so newbie) questions here
#1906
Join Date: Feb 2019
Posts: 5
Newbie here and the question concerns transferring miles to a star alliance airline from an AMEX centurion card in order to use points with Aegean. We are no longer satisfied with amex and want to transfer approx 600K points to travel partners before exiting the relationship with amex. Amex offers a 1:1 ratio to a number of airlines but only Singapore airlines and SAS airlines from the star alliance network.
As we live in Greece and mostly use Aegean for our family travels we would like to transfer most of the points to Star Alliance options that we can use with Aegean. Can we set up a signapore or SAS account and use miles with them to redeem for Aegean flights? Or is this not a good solution?
As the next subscritpion is due in a a few days and we will not be renewing the amex card/the points will disappear, any thoughts or advice from folks with more expertise than us would be very helpful.
As we live in Greece and mostly use Aegean for our family travels we would like to transfer most of the points to Star Alliance options that we can use with Aegean. Can we set up a signapore or SAS account and use miles with them to redeem for Aegean flights? Or is this not a good solution?
As the next subscritpion is due in a a few days and we will not be renewing the amex card/the points will disappear, any thoughts or advice from folks with more expertise than us would be very helpful.
#1907
Join Date: May 2008
Location: ARN
Posts: 3,470
You can book Star Alliance award tickets with any mileage program which belongs to a Star Alliance airline, so the answer is yes, you can use both SK and SQ miles for awards with Aegean, Swiss, Lufthansa, SAS, Turkish and all Star airlines. But be aware that you cannot use SQ and SK miles for awards with Olympic.
In your situation, I would take a look at the award charts for both SQ and SK and see which one has the lowest amount on miles on the types of awards I want to get. E.g. SQ awards are 25,000 in economy and 55,000 in business for intra-Europe, and 55,000 or 130,000 for North America. For SK, it's 40,000 or 60,000 in Europe, and 70,000 or 130,000 to North America. With SK, you can also redeem on SAS to North America for 60,000 in economy, 80,000 in plus, or 100,000 in business.
In your situation, I would take a look at the award charts for both SQ and SK and see which one has the lowest amount on miles on the types of awards I want to get. E.g. SQ awards are 25,000 in economy and 55,000 in business for intra-Europe, and 55,000 or 130,000 for North America. For SK, it's 40,000 or 60,000 in Europe, and 70,000 or 130,000 to North America. With SK, you can also redeem on SAS to North America for 60,000 in economy, 80,000 in plus, or 100,000 in business.
#1908
Join Date: Nov 2015
Programs: A3*G
Posts: 128
If you want to fly with Aegean using SAS you'll have to pay (all return flights; 60% if oneway)
- 20.000 miles for a domestic flight in Greece / economy and probably 30.000 miles for business (though chart is unclear)
- 40.000 miles for a flight in Europe / economy and 60.000 miles for a flight in business (some routes are 10.000 miles cheaper)
Chart SAS
If you want to fly with Aegean using SQ you'll have to pay (all return flights; 50% if oneway)
- 25.000 miles for a flight in economy
- 55.000 miles for a flight in business
SQ Chart
Now, I don't know about availability on these programs for Aegean flights. Though, I'd consider that SAS is probably not as financially stable as SQ. Also SQ should offer better opportunities to redeem on other airlines (I'm guessing).
#1909
Moderator: Aegean Miles+Bonus
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: AMS / ATH
Programs: AFKL Plat, A3 Gold
Posts: 7,339
You may want to consider downgrading the Centurion card to a cheap green card, just to keep your points alive. Who knows, maybe Aegean will become an Amex transfer partner in the future..
if you do want to move your points to either SK or SQ I would suggest SQ as SAS is in financial issues lately. Also keep in mind that it may take days to weeks for points to transfer.
if you do want to move your points to either SK or SQ I would suggest SQ as SAS is in financial issues lately. Also keep in mind that it may take days to weeks for points to transfer.
#1910
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: SEA
Posts: 362
I am not sure I'm even posting a new thread or a reply to one element in this area, so please be kind
I have tried to sort out the expiration rules the best I can on my own. I have never credited a flight to Aegean, I have only three activities in total:
Oct 2017 500 miles for installing App
Oct 2017 1000 miles for internet enrollment
Nov 2018 purchased 30000 miles with a 30000 mile bonus
total balance 61500 miles.
Since I have no flight, would my expiration be 5 years from Oct 2017 - which is when I opened the account in the first place?
If I understand correctly to reset the expiration date requires a Star Alliance flight credited to Aegean - and that this activity would add five years to expiration date.
For some reason I have notes in my xls file tracking accounts that the expiration might be "two or three years" from last flight.
I would be very grateful for confirmation or correction if what I have outlined is not accurate.
thanks!
I have tried to sort out the expiration rules the best I can on my own. I have never credited a flight to Aegean, I have only three activities in total:
Oct 2017 500 miles for installing App
Oct 2017 1000 miles for internet enrollment
Nov 2018 purchased 30000 miles with a 30000 mile bonus
total balance 61500 miles.
Since I have no flight, would my expiration be 5 years from Oct 2017 - which is when I opened the account in the first place?
If I understand correctly to reset the expiration date requires a Star Alliance flight credited to Aegean - and that this activity would add five years to expiration date.
For some reason I have notes in my xls file tracking accounts that the expiration might be "two or three years" from last flight.
I would be very grateful for confirmation or correction if what I have outlined is not accurate.
thanks!
#1911
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Paris
Programs: Miles&Bonus *G
Posts: 318
I am not sure I'm even posting a new thread or a reply to one element in this area, so please be kind
I have tried to sort out the expiration rules the best I can on my own. I have never credited a flight to Aegean, I have only three activities in total:
Oct 2017 500 miles for installing App
Oct 2017 1000 miles for internet enrollment
Nov 2018 purchased 30000 miles with a 30000 mile bonus
total balance 61500 miles.
Since I have no flight, would my expiration be 5 years from Oct 2017 - which is when I opened the account in the first place?
If I understand correctly to reset the expiration date requires a Star Alliance flight credited to Aegean - and that this activity would add five years to expiration date.
For some reason I have notes in my xls file tracking accounts that the expiration might be "two or three years" from last flight.
I would be very grateful for confirmation or correction if what I have outlined is not accurate.
thanks!
I have tried to sort out the expiration rules the best I can on my own. I have never credited a flight to Aegean, I have only three activities in total:
Oct 2017 500 miles for installing App
Oct 2017 1000 miles for internet enrollment
Nov 2018 purchased 30000 miles with a 30000 mile bonus
total balance 61500 miles.
Since I have no flight, would my expiration be 5 years from Oct 2017 - which is when I opened the account in the first place?
If I understand correctly to reset the expiration date requires a Star Alliance flight credited to Aegean - and that this activity would add five years to expiration date.
For some reason I have notes in my xls file tracking accounts that the expiration might be "two or three years" from last flight.
I would be very grateful for confirmation or correction if what I have outlined is not accurate.
thanks!
If the Blue Member has not performed a single flight activity within a period of sixty consecutive (60) months from the date of the last valid flight that registered miles or from the date of his/her registration, then his/her Account will be inactivated for a period of twelve (12) months. In this period of time the Member may retroactively credit Tier Miles for flights that took place within the past 12 months and within the period that the Account was active to reactivate his/her Account. It is specified that the Member cannot earn or spend Miles for as long as his/her Account is inactive. Should no reactivation occur within the twelve (12) month inactivation period, the Card and Account will be closed permanently and the Award Miles earned will automatically be cancelled.
#1912
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: USA, JPN, GBR
Programs: A3, AA, AC, AS, DL, NH, SQ, SK, UA; BW, CP, HH, IHG, MB
Posts: 1,950
Newbie here and the question concerns transferring miles to a star alliance airline from an AMEX centurion card in order to use points with Aegean. We are no longer satisfied with amex and want to transfer approx 600K points to travel partners before exiting the relationship with amex. Amex offers a 1:1 ratio to a number of airlines but only Singapore airlines and SAS airlines from the star alliance network.
#1913
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: LON, ATH
Programs: A3*G, BA Gold, OA Gold (in memoriam), Hertz #1 Gold
Posts: 548
Newbie here and the question concerns transferring miles to a star alliance airline from an AMEX centurion card in order to use points with Aegean. We are no longer satisfied with amex and want to transfer approx 600K points to travel partners before exiting the relationship with amex. Amex offers a 1:1 ratio to a number of airlines but only Singapore airlines and SAS airlines from the star alliance network.
As we live in Greece and mostly use Aegean for our family travels we would like to transfer most of the points to Star Alliance options that we can use with Aegean. Can we set up a signapore or SAS account and use miles with them to redeem for Aegean flights? Or is this not a good solution?
As the next subscritpion is due in a a few days and we will not be renewing the amex card/the points will disappear, any thoughts or advice from folks with more expertise than us would be very helpful.
As we live in Greece and mostly use Aegean for our family travels we would like to transfer most of the points to Star Alliance options that we can use with Aegean. Can we set up a signapore or SAS account and use miles with them to redeem for Aegean flights? Or is this not a good solution?
As the next subscritpion is due in a a few days and we will not be renewing the amex card/the points will disappear, any thoughts or advice from folks with more expertise than us would be very helpful.
You can transfer to spg (now Marriott bonvoy) and there to aegean https://en.aegeanair.com/milesandbon...international/
just check the amex to bonvoy conversion rate. The bonvoy to aegean is 3:1and for every 60,000 bonvoy points transferred to Miles+Bonus in a single transaction (which will equal to 20,000 award miles), you will earn extra 5,000 award miles as a gift.
#1915
Join Date: Sep 2018
Location: SHA,CPH
Programs: SAS EuroBonus Gold, Qatar Privilege Club Gold
Posts: 235
A3 with Skype call center?
Is A3's call center accept Skype call? I want to book a multi destination ticket SOF-ATH Apr. 8, ATH-DUS Apr. 9, kept saying We are not able to confirm your selected flights. Please resubmit your request. (15079 - 421). Anyone have this problem before?
#1917
Join Date: Sep 2018
Location: SHA,CPH
Programs: SAS EuroBonus Gold, Qatar Privilege Club Gold
Posts: 235
#1919
Join Date: Sep 2018
Location: SHA,CPH
Programs: SAS EuroBonus Gold, Qatar Privilege Club Gold
Posts: 235
#1920
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: YYZ
Programs: A3*G AC*nobody TK*nobody
Posts: 1,967
Question LH Y+ (G/E fare class)
According to A3 table, LH G/E "Premium Eco Full (international)" earns 150% "Accrual Factor"
So say, if I am A3*G now, and wants to qualify for A3*G in 2020. If I fly LH G/E fare, with 20,000 actual miles.
I will get 30,000 miles in my A3 account, right? But does that also qualify me for A3*G (more than 24,000 miles required w/o 4x A3 segments)?
For the same token, if I have 4 x A3 segments, I just need 8,000 miles @ 150% (well, actually even less, because those A3 segments also has miles) for qualification?
According to A3 table, LH G/E "Premium Eco Full (international)" earns 150% "Accrual Factor"
So say, if I am A3*G now, and wants to qualify for A3*G in 2020. If I fly LH G/E fare, with 20,000 actual miles.
I will get 30,000 miles in my A3 account, right? But does that also qualify me for A3*G (more than 24,000 miles required w/o 4x A3 segments)?
For the same token, if I have 4 x A3 segments, I just need 8,000 miles @ 150% (well, actually even less, because those A3 segments also has miles) for qualification?