Feb 23, 2015, 6:35 am
Last edit by: NWIFlyer
With the evolution of the Miles&Bonus program, there are a number of threads on this forum that contain outdated information, plus a further set that - whilst describing the new program - contain conflicting information that has only been crystallised as we all discover how certain aspects of the program either work or are interpreted.
It is perhaps therefore unsurprising that many new members find searching through this myriad of threads a little daunting, and consequently they post a question in one of the FAQ threads.
This tends to irk those who've been around for a while who expect the new posters to at least do some basic searching before posting a question that has probably been asked many times before. This also causes the forums to become very congested and less easy to read through with the same question being asked and answered many times.
I am therefore creating a thread, which will be stickied, for anyone to ask any question they like about the M&B program where they are unsure or it's not obvious where they should be posting it.
There is no such thing in this thread as a stupid question, no issue with asking a repeat question, and any answers should be 100% flame-free. I will take a dim view of anyone that abuses a member or provides a less than helpful answer (such as 'do a search') to any question asked in here, because this is being created to benefit all of us so the other threads flow more cleanly. Thank you for your co-operation on this.
It might be that I move questions to more appropriate threads so they receive an answer more quickly, but if I do so I will always add a note to indicate where they originated, and ask that the flame-free answer principle be respected.
NWIFlyer
Moderator
Aegean M&B
It is perhaps therefore unsurprising that many new members find searching through this myriad of threads a little daunting, and consequently they post a question in one of the FAQ threads.
This tends to irk those who've been around for a while who expect the new posters to at least do some basic searching before posting a question that has probably been asked many times before. This also causes the forums to become very congested and less easy to read through with the same question being asked and answered many times.
I am therefore creating a thread, which will be stickied, for anyone to ask any question they like about the M&B program where they are unsure or it's not obvious where they should be posting it.
There is no such thing in this thread as a stupid question, no issue with asking a repeat question, and any answers should be 100% flame-free. I will take a dim view of anyone that abuses a member or provides a less than helpful answer (such as 'do a search') to any question asked in here, because this is being created to benefit all of us so the other threads flow more cleanly. Thank you for your co-operation on this.
It might be that I move questions to more appropriate threads so they receive an answer more quickly, but if I do so I will always add a note to indicate where they originated, and ask that the flame-free answer principle be respected.
NWIFlyer
Moderator
Aegean M&B
Flame-Free Questions on A3 - ask your newbie (and not so newbie) questions here
Sep 21, 2018, 1:22 am
#1711
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: OTP/KRK
Programs: M&M FTL, Miles+Bonus Gold
Posts: 664
@KLouis, youre right 
but even if Cyprus would be in Schengen and the flight will continue to DXB it will leave from A zone due to pax travelling to non-Schengen country. They do no disembark at LCY to clear the passport control.
@Knobbgb, I didnt go thru main passport control and baggage claim hall. just before it you have a smaller passport control desk and security check for transfer to A gates. Usually there is no queue at all.
but even if Cyprus would be in Schengen and the flight will continue to DXB it will leave from A zone due to pax travelling to non-Schengen country. They do no disembark at LCY to clear the passport control.@Knobbgb, I didnt go thru main passport control and baggage claim hall. just before it you have a smaller passport control desk and security check for transfer to A gates. Usually there is no queue at all.
Sep 21, 2018, 7:20 am
#1712
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Heraklion, Greece
Posts: 7,565
@KLouis, youre right but even if Cyprus would be in Schengen and the flight will continue to DXB it will leave from A zone due to pax travelling to non-Schengen country. They do no disembark at LCY to clear the passport control...{snip}...
but even if Cyprus would be in Schengen and the flight will continue to DXB it will leave from A zone due to pax travelling to non-Schengen country. They do no disembark at LCY to clear the passport control...{snip}...
Sep 21, 2018, 7:44 am
#1713
Join Date: May 2008
Location: ARN
Posts: 3,470
If ifs and buts were candies and nuts we'd all have a merry Christmas! Let's use examples that are real and unless I'm terribly wrong, I am not aware of a flight out of ATH that first stops at a Schengen country and then continues to a non-member state. People coming from Schengen countries have a right to move within the "area" without passport controls, therefore in the foreseeable future such a situation will not exist.
Sep 21, 2018, 2:29 pm
#1714
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: PAS, Paros Greece
Programs: A3 *G
Posts: 1,371
If ifs and buts were candies and nuts we'd all have a merry Christmas! Let's use examples that are real and unless I'm terribly wrong, I am not aware of a flight out of ATH that first stops at a Schengen country and then continues to a non-member state. People coming from Schengen countries have a right to move within the "area" without passport controls, therefore in the foreseeable future such a situation will not exist.
Sep 21, 2018, 8:35 pm
#1715
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Heraklion, Greece
Posts: 7,565
Apologies, I stand corrected: I had forgotten about the ATH-MUC-PEK flight! As for the ADD-Scandinavia one, well, I simply didn't know about it, although the opposite direction would have logistical problems with immigration, etc. given that both Norway and Sweden are Schengen countries.
Sep 22, 2018, 2:51 am
#1716
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 56
@KLouis, youre right but even if Cyprus would be in Schengen and the flight will continue to DXB it will leave from A zone due to pax travelling to non-Schengen country. They do no disembark at LCY to clear the passport control.
@Knobbgb, I didnt go thru main passport control and baggage claim hall. just before it you have a smaller passport control desk and security check for transfer to A gates. Usually there is no queue at all.
but even if Cyprus would be in Schengen and the flight will continue to DXB it will leave from A zone due to pax travelling to non-Schengen country. They do no disembark at LCY to clear the passport control.@Knobbgb, I didnt go thru main passport control and baggage claim hall. just before it you have a smaller passport control desk and security check for transfer to A gates. Usually there is no queue at all.
Sep 22, 2018, 3:04 am
#1717
Join Date: May 2008
Location: ARN
Posts: 3,470
Apologies, I stand corrected: I had forgotten about the ATH-MUC-PEK flight! As for the ADD-Scandinavia one, well, I simply didn't know about it, although the opposite direction would have logistical problems with immigration, etc. given that both Norway and Sweden are Schengen countries.
Sep 23, 2018, 5:37 am
#1718
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: OTP/KRK
Programs: M&M FTL, Miles+Bonus Gold
Posts: 664
@RedChili, I can confirm LA flight too, I flew it from MAD to FRA anf had to pass the passport control in MAD because is leaving from non-Schengen gates.
@Bryant.Jr, I cannot tell you 100% sure because I have European passport (when I passed thru that passport control I even used my ID card), but most likely you will not need Schengen visa hence is still in the transfer zone of the airport. you better ask ATH airport on Twitter or facebook, they are quite responsive.
@Bryant.Jr, I cannot tell you 100% sure because I have European passport (when I passed thru that passport control I even used my ID card), but most likely you will not need Schengen visa hence is still in the transfer zone of the airport. you better ask ATH airport on Twitter or facebook, they are quite responsive.
Sep 23, 2018, 8:38 am
#1719
Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: Dublin/Brussels
Programs: A3*S, FB*S, AerClub*S, Hertz PC
Posts: 39
What @KLouis mentioned though is whether such a flight exists that involves ATH.
Otherwise there are many flights within Europe that connect Schengen/Non-Schengen, no need to look far, flights that operate to/from UK and ROI are good examples. As I am based in DUB I always need to get through passport control for my intra-European connections. It depends to the airport whether I have to get through security again or not.
Otherwise there are many flights within Europe that connect Schengen/Non-Schengen, no need to look far, flights that operate to/from UK and ROI are good examples. As I am based in DUB I always need to get through passport control for my intra-European connections. It depends to the airport whether I have to get through security again or not.
Sep 25, 2018, 11:26 pm
#1720
Join Date: Feb 2018
Posts: 173
Good day everyone! Have a question about booking fares, googled a lot before asking but failed to find myself. I need to make a return trip of 4 segments to qualify for Aegean Gold. I am looking for cheapest available option since I only need to take this trip for qualifying purposes. I still have 2 unused upgrade vouchers and I wanted to book economy saver (GoLight) and use these vouchers to upgrade 2 longest segments (availability found). But to do so, i need to avoid U, T and P fare classes. But I can't see letters anywhere - just GoLight, Flex and Business. For obvious reason I need to know what fare class I am paying for before I do. How to do this? Thank you in advance.
Sep 26, 2018, 12:28 am
#1721
Join Date: May 2013
Location: GVA, BSL, ZRH
Programs: A3*, HH, club carlson: all gold and bonvoy plat
Posts: 466
Good day everyone! Have a question about booking fares, googled a lot before asking but failed to find myself. I need to make a return trip of 4 segments to qualify for Aegean Gold. I am looking for cheapest available option since I only need to take this trip for qualifying purposes. I still have 2 unused upgrade vouchers and I wanted to book economy saver (GoLight) and use these vouchers to upgrade 2 longest segments (availability found). But to do so, i need to avoid U, T and P fare classes. But I can't see letters anywhere - just GoLight, Flex and Business. For obvious reason I need to know what fare class I am paying for before I do. How to do this? Thank you in advance.
Sep 26, 2018, 8:29 pm
#1724
Join Date: Feb 2018
Posts: 173