Feb 23, 2015, 6:35 am
Last edit by: NWIFlyer
With the evolution of the Miles&Bonus program, there are a number of threads on this forum that contain outdated information, plus a further set that - whilst describing the new program - contain conflicting information that has only been crystallised as we all discover how certain aspects of the program either work or are interpreted.
It is perhaps therefore unsurprising that many new members find searching through this myriad of threads a little daunting, and consequently they post a question in one of the FAQ threads.
This tends to irk those who've been around for a while who expect the new posters to at least do some basic searching before posting a question that has probably been asked many times before. This also causes the forums to become very congested and less easy to read through with the same question being asked and answered many times.
I am therefore creating a thread, which will be stickied, for anyone to ask any question they like about the M&B program where they are unsure or it's not obvious where they should be posting it.
There is no such thing in this thread as a stupid question, no issue with asking a repeat question, and any answers should be 100% flame-free. I will take a dim view of anyone that abuses a member or provides a less than helpful answer (such as 'do a search') to any question asked in here, because this is being created to benefit all of us so the other threads flow more cleanly. Thank you for your co-operation on this.
It might be that I move questions to more appropriate threads so they receive an answer more quickly, but if I do so I will always add a note to indicate where they originated, and ask that the flame-free answer principle be respected.
NWIFlyer
Moderator
Aegean M&B
It is perhaps therefore unsurprising that many new members find searching through this myriad of threads a little daunting, and consequently they post a question in one of the FAQ threads.
This tends to irk those who've been around for a while who expect the new posters to at least do some basic searching before posting a question that has probably been asked many times before. This also causes the forums to become very congested and less easy to read through with the same question being asked and answered many times.
I am therefore creating a thread, which will be stickied, for anyone to ask any question they like about the M&B program where they are unsure or it's not obvious where they should be posting it.
There is no such thing in this thread as a stupid question, no issue with asking a repeat question, and any answers should be 100% flame-free. I will take a dim view of anyone that abuses a member or provides a less than helpful answer (such as 'do a search') to any question asked in here, because this is being created to benefit all of us so the other threads flow more cleanly. Thank you for your co-operation on this.
It might be that I move questions to more appropriate threads so they receive an answer more quickly, but if I do so I will always add a note to indicate where they originated, and ask that the flame-free answer principle be respected.
NWIFlyer
Moderator
Aegean M&B
Flame-Free Questions on A3 - ask your newbie (and not so newbie) questions here
Mar 13, 2017, 8:38 am
#1141
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: PAS, Paros Greece
Programs: A3 *G
Posts: 1,372
Mar 15, 2017, 5:45 am
#1146
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: C2, BTS, VIE
Programs: A3 *G, AA Exec Plat Pro, Accor Silver, IHG Plat, HH Diamond, PP
Posts: 321
perhaps you were affected by some A3 strike or ATH Strike? I know that LH gives extra MM miles as an apology for problems caused by LH Strikes
Mar 15, 2017, 6:42 am
#1147
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: PAS, Paros Greece
Programs: A3 *G
Posts: 1,372
Maybe it was some free miles for taking out a credit card or something. There must have been some such offer you took part in and forgot about.
Mar 17, 2017, 8:25 am
#1149
Join Date: Dec 2009
Programs: A3*G, Marriott Gold, Hilton Honors Gold, Radisson Rewards Premium
Posts: 856
Hi All,
I know this is a real newbie question despite me being not such a newbie but I hope you'll indulge me (that's what this thread is for, right?
).
Here's the scenario: my other half used to be A3*G but didn't make the requalification requirements so has dropped to Blue. I'm considering an AI itinerary that would earn around 41,000 tier miles. Am I right in saying that she would then need to do 4 A3 flights plus 7000 tier miles to get Gold, as the first 24000 would have dropped off by her gaining Silver? However, if she did 2 A3 flights before the AI trip, she would then only need 4 A3 flights (or 7000 miles on any other carrier) to get Gold, as she would have only "used" 12000 of the AI tier miles for Silver.
Am I understanding it correctly or am I missing something? The whole "starting from scratch" thing is rather confusing to me, as I haven't lost Gold yet so am really unfamiliar with the way it all works. Thanks in advance!
I know this is a real newbie question despite me being not such a newbie but I hope you'll indulge me (that's what this thread is for, right?
).Here's the scenario: my other half used to be A3*G but didn't make the requalification requirements so has dropped to Blue. I'm considering an AI itinerary that would earn around 41,000 tier miles. Am I right in saying that she would then need to do 4 A3 flights plus 7000 tier miles to get Gold, as the first 24000 would have dropped off by her gaining Silver? However, if she did 2 A3 flights before the AI trip, she would then only need 4 A3 flights (or 7000 miles on any other carrier) to get Gold, as she would have only "used" 12000 of the AI tier miles for Silver.
Am I understanding it correctly or am I missing something? The whole "starting from scratch" thing is rather confusing to me, as I haven't lost Gold yet so am really unfamiliar with the way it all works. Thanks in advance!
Mar 17, 2017, 9:39 am
#1150
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: C2, BTS, VIE
Programs: A3 *G, AA Exec Plat Pro, Accor Silver, IHG Plat, HH Diamond, PP
Posts: 321
well, if she is starting from zero, i believe this would be the best option:
first fly any 2 a3 segs > then your 41k trip, that would make her *S + leave 29k towards *G, at that point you would just need another 4 A3 segs OR another 19K (from *S to *G you need 4 A3 segs AND 24k or 48k and no segs)
if you cannot start with two A3 segs, than your 41k trip > makes her *S + leaves 17k towards *G, at that point you need 4 A3 segs + 7K or 26K and no segs
first fly any 2 a3 segs > then your 41k trip, that would make her *S + leave 29k towards *G, at that point you would just need another 4 A3 segs OR another 19K (from *S to *G you need 4 A3 segs AND 24k or 48k and no segs)
if you cannot start with two A3 segs, than your 41k trip > makes her *S + leaves 17k towards *G, at that point you need 4 A3 segs + 7K or 26K and no segs
Mar 17, 2017, 9:45 am
#1151
Join Date: Dec 2009
Programs: A3*G, Marriott Gold, Hilton Honors Gold, Radisson Rewards Premium
Posts: 856
well, if she is starting from zero, i believe this would be the best option:
first fly any 2 a3 segs > then your 41k trip, that would make her *S + leave 29k towards *G, at that point you would just need another 4 A3 segs OR another 19K (from *S to *G you need 4 A3 segs AND 24k or 48k and no segs)
if you cannot start with two A3 segs, than your 41k trip > makes her *S + leaves 17k towards *G, at that point you need 4 A3 segs + 7K or 26K and no segs
first fly any 2 a3 segs > then your 41k trip, that would make her *S + leave 29k towards *G, at that point you would just need another 4 A3 segs OR another 19K (from *S to *G you need 4 A3 segs AND 24k or 48k and no segs)
if you cannot start with two A3 segs, than your 41k trip > makes her *S + leaves 17k towards *G, at that point you need 4 A3 segs + 7K or 26K and no segs
Mar 17, 2017, 5:14 pm
#1152
Join Date: Feb 2015
Programs: A3 gold, BA silver, IHG platinum, Hilton Gold
Posts: 51
Hi everyone,
I want to fly an open jaw LHR-JNX /SKG-LHR (both via ATH). Booked as 1 ticket the prices are in the range of 700-800 euros for the dates I'm looking at.
However, on many OTA's(expedia etc) I can force this thing(all with A3/OA flights):
LHR-ATH redeye(arrives in ATH at 4am)
ATH-NJX early am flight leaves 06.25am
SKG-ATH-LHR(in 1 ticket)
all in a reasonable-ish price(about half the quote from A3 directly).
Now, my only problem is that the LHR-ATH and ATH-NJX are technically booked as a seperate ticket via the OTA so I'm not covered in case of IRROPS. On the other hand, I've booked all the flights in a particular sequence via an OTA.
Now my questions are:
1) In case of IRROPS where my LHR-ATH is late more than 2 hours, causing me to miss my next flight, is the OTA liable at all? Will they issue new tickets for me to arrive at NJX or not?
I guess this problem could be stated as:
If I book a XXX-YYY and a YYY-ZZZ ticket via an OTA(booked as 2 tickets in 2 days), and XXX-YYY is either cancelled or delayed because of IRROPS causing me to miss the YYY-ZZZ flight, will the OTA rebook me?
2) How lenient is A3 usually when booking segments in 2 seperate tickets? In case of IRROPS at LHR, will they rebook the ATH-JNX leg for the next available flight?)There are 3 flights daily to NJX for the dates I'm looking at)
I want to fly an open jaw LHR-JNX /SKG-LHR (both via ATH). Booked as 1 ticket the prices are in the range of 700-800 euros for the dates I'm looking at.
However, on many OTA's(expedia etc) I can force this thing(all with A3/OA flights):
LHR-ATH redeye(arrives in ATH at 4am)
ATH-NJX early am flight leaves 06.25am
SKG-ATH-LHR(in 1 ticket)
all in a reasonable-ish price(about half the quote from A3 directly).
Now, my only problem is that the LHR-ATH and ATH-NJX are technically booked as a seperate ticket via the OTA so I'm not covered in case of IRROPS. On the other hand, I've booked all the flights in a particular sequence via an OTA.
Now my questions are:
1) In case of IRROPS where my LHR-ATH is late more than 2 hours, causing me to miss my next flight, is the OTA liable at all? Will they issue new tickets for me to arrive at NJX or not?
I guess this problem could be stated as:
If I book a XXX-YYY and a YYY-ZZZ ticket via an OTA(booked as 2 tickets in 2 days), and XXX-YYY is either cancelled or delayed because of IRROPS causing me to miss the YYY-ZZZ flight, will the OTA rebook me?
2) How lenient is A3 usually when booking segments in 2 seperate tickets? In case of IRROPS at LHR, will they rebook the ATH-JNX leg for the next available flight?)There are 3 flights daily to NJX for the dates I'm looking at)
Mar 17, 2017, 7:41 pm
#1153
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Heraklion, Greece
Posts: 7,565
...1) In case of IRROPS where my LHR-ATH is late more than 2 hours, causing me to miss my next flight, is the OTA liable at all? Will they issue new tickets for me to arrive at NJX or not?
I guess this problem could be stated as:
If I book a XXX-YYY and a YYY-ZZZ ticket via an OTA(booked as 2 tickets in 2 days), and XXX-YYY is either cancelled or delayed because of IRROPS causing me to miss the YYY-ZZZ flight, will the OTA rebook me?
I guess this problem could be stated as:
If I book a XXX-YYY and a YYY-ZZZ ticket via an OTA(booked as 2 tickets in 2 days), and XXX-YYY is either cancelled or delayed because of IRROPS causing me to miss the YYY-ZZZ flight, will the OTA rebook me?
2) How lenient is A3 usually when booking segments in 2 seperate tickets? In case of IRROPS at LHR, will they rebook the ATH-JNX leg for the next available flight?)There are 3 flights daily to NJX for the dates I'm looking at)
Mar 18, 2017, 5:25 am
#1154
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: PAS, Paros Greece
Programs: A3 *G
Posts: 1,372
Hi everyone,
I want to fly an open jaw LHR-JNX /SKG-LHR (both via ATH). Booked as 1 ticket the prices are in the range of 700-800 euros for the dates I'm looking at.
However, on many OTA's(expedia etc) I can force this thing(all with A3/OA flights):
LHR-ATH redeye(arrives in ATH at 4am)
ATH-NJX early am flight leaves 06.25am
SKG-ATH-LHR(in 1 ticket)
all in a reasonable-ish price(about half the quote from A3 directly).
Now, my only problem is that the LHR-ATH and ATH-NJX are technically booked as a seperate ticket via the OTA so I'm not covered in case of IRROPS. On the other hand, I've booked all the flights in a particular sequence via an OTA.
Now my questions are:
1) In case of IRROPS where my LHR-ATH is late more than 2 hours, causing me to miss my next flight, is the OTA liable at all? Will they issue new tickets for me to arrive at NJX or not?
I guess this problem could be stated as:
If I book a XXX-YYY and a YYY-ZZZ ticket via an OTA(booked as 2 tickets in 2 days), and XXX-YYY is either cancelled or delayed because of IRROPS causing me to miss the YYY-ZZZ flight, will the OTA rebook me?
2) How lenient is A3 usually when booking segments in 2 seperate tickets? In case of IRROPS at LHR, will they rebook the ATH-JNX leg for the next available flight?)There are 3 flights daily to NJX for the dates I'm looking at)
I want to fly an open jaw LHR-JNX /SKG-LHR (both via ATH). Booked as 1 ticket the prices are in the range of 700-800 euros for the dates I'm looking at.
However, on many OTA's(expedia etc) I can force this thing(all with A3/OA flights):
LHR-ATH redeye(arrives in ATH at 4am)
ATH-NJX early am flight leaves 06.25am
SKG-ATH-LHR(in 1 ticket)
all in a reasonable-ish price(about half the quote from A3 directly).
Now, my only problem is that the LHR-ATH and ATH-NJX are technically booked as a seperate ticket via the OTA so I'm not covered in case of IRROPS. On the other hand, I've booked all the flights in a particular sequence via an OTA.
Now my questions are:
1) In case of IRROPS where my LHR-ATH is late more than 2 hours, causing me to miss my next flight, is the OTA liable at all? Will they issue new tickets for me to arrive at NJX or not?
I guess this problem could be stated as:
If I book a XXX-YYY and a YYY-ZZZ ticket via an OTA(booked as 2 tickets in 2 days), and XXX-YYY is either cancelled or delayed because of IRROPS causing me to miss the YYY-ZZZ flight, will the OTA rebook me?
2) How lenient is A3 usually when booking segments in 2 seperate tickets? In case of IRROPS at LHR, will they rebook the ATH-JNX leg for the next available flight?)There are 3 flights daily to NJX for the dates I'm looking at)
Personally I'd go ahead and book ATH-JNX as a standalone ticket. The overnight from London is almost always early anyway so 2.5hrs should be plenty time and, if it's late you can at least get to Naxos on the ferry by about noon, so not the end of the world, and change your domestic ticket to a later date before you leave LHR, or even refund it. Just don't book the return from SKG on the same ticket because that will then be cancelled if you do miss the JNX flight.
Mar 22, 2017, 4:45 pm
#1155
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Los Altos, CA -- UA 1P / Priority Club Platinum Ambassador / Hyatt GP Platinum / Avis Presidents Club
Posts: 179
How to apply UA Mileage Plus to Olympic booking?
Hi, All,
My extended family will be taking a summer trip to Greece. Many of us have *G via United Mileage Plus, but in the Olympic booking interface I only saw an option to add a Miles & Bonus number. Couple of questions:
I tried calling the the 801 801 0101 24/7 reservations number and it rang for about a minute, then disconnected.
Thanks!
- Bill
My extended family will be taking a summer trip to Greece. Many of us have *G via United Mileage Plus, but in the Olympic booking interface I only saw an option to add a Miles & Bonus number. Couple of questions:
- How can I add our MP numbers?
- Will our Gold status qualify us for a free bag?
- We're flying from JTR -> ATH, then connecting on LH to SJC via FRA. Is there any way (or benefit) to have the LH and A3 reservations linked?
I tried calling the the 801 801 0101 24/7 reservations number and it rang for about a minute, then disconnected.
Thanks!
- Bill
Last edited by BillShepp; Mar 22, 2017 at 7:38 pm