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A friendly reminder that Flyertalk is not a marketplace, and nothing may be offered (or solicited) for sale or barter within the general forums - which includes offering vouchers for free. For those with sufficient posts and length of membership, trading/exchange is allowed solely within Coupon Connection, and then only in accordance with the specific rules of that forum.
Please do not attempt to solicit, sell or trade upgrade vouchers within this forum. Posts will be deleted and the members concerned potentially subject to disciplinary action. **Please note that this includes directly using the PM system to do so without first posting in Coupon Connection**. Thanks for your co-operation.
A friendly reminder that Flyertalk is not a marketplace, and nothing may be offered (or solicited) for sale or barter within the general forums - which includes offering vouchers for free. For those with sufficient posts and length of membership, trading/exchange is allowed solely within Coupon Connection, and then only in accordance with the specific rules of that forum.
Please do not attempt to solicit, sell or trade upgrade vouchers within this forum. Posts will be deleted and the members concerned potentially subject to disciplinary action. **Please note that this includes directly using the PM system to do so without first posting in Coupon Connection**. Thanks for your co-operation.
Criteria
- You must be travelling on A3 or OA metal - codeshares are not included.
- The original ticket must be issued on either A3 (390) or OA (050) ticket stock.
- Only revenue (paid) tickets, in fare classes other than U, P & T on a GoLight fare basis, can be upgraded, but not redemption tickets.
- All flights on the ticket must be on A3 or OA metal.
- There must be award availability in I-class for the upgrades to clear. You can check this by logging in to M&B then going to https://en.aegeanair.com/milesandbon...t/spend-miles/ The results page will initially be a calendar. To see Business availability, you have to click through to the next step. (You can also use a free or paid tool such as ANA website, UA website (looking for saver award space), Aeroplan, AwardNexus or ExpertFlyer to check for availability.)
- One coupon per person per journey leg is required - so, for example, TXL-ATH-SKG and return via the same route would require four coupons per person.
- Anyone can be upgraded using the coupons - you do not have to be travelling on the same booking or even the same plane.
Procedure
- Call A3 to request the upgrade. The phone numbers are listed at https://aegeanairlines.custhelp.com/ (most of them should go to the same call centre in Greece).
- If successful, a new ticket will be issued (with a new number). The PNR will remain unchanged.
- You are liable for any extra taxes applicable to Business Class (e.g. APD from the UK). Sometimes this gets charged, sometimes it doesn't - if it's due and you're not charged because the agent forgets, you've just been lucky.
- If there's no immediate I-class availability, you can ask to be waitlisted for upgrade. The ability to waitlist was reported to have been removed in August 2016, but was again possible in September. Check with the agent - option available on May 2018.
- in case you requested to be waitlisted for upgrade and want to check if the customer care agent made the changes on your booking you can check the reservation on checkmytrip.com (click here), the leg you requested the upgrade will be shown here as ”Waitlisted”.
- If you wish to upgrade one segment of a multi-segment trip (e.g. XXX-ATH-YYY) and there is availability on the leg you wish to upgrade, you may still have to be waitlisted due to married segment issues. The process of clearing the waitlist is somewhat confusing and may result in frustration due to the availability seeming to disappear but in reality, this may mean that the segments have been "unmarried" and the availability has been allocated to your reservation. See post 2272 and the update in post 2294 for more details.
Benefits
- No matter what the fare basis of the original ticket, you receive full Business Class benefits after upgrade.
- This includes lounge access (useful if you're upgrading someone other than yourself who has no status, or if you've run out of Silver lounge vouchers) and full baggage allowance (it applies for first leg as well, in case you are upgraded only on the 2nd leg of your trip - confirmed on the etix).
- Because the ticket books as a redemption, the free car hire is not included.
Mileage/segment earning
- You will earn at the underlying rate of your purchased ticket in economy, not at a business class rate. Because status miles are awarded, this also counts as a segment for re-qualification purposes.
- The flights may credit automatically, but may take longer to credit than tickets that have not been changed. They may also credit as 0 miles, and later change to the correct rate. If the flights have not credited properly after a few weeks then calling A3 will rectify this rapidly.
Expiry
- The vouchers expire at the end of your membership year - they do not carry over, even if status is retained. A new set is issued every year.
- It is the date when you use the voucher that matters. It can upgrade a flight that takes place after expiry as long as you apply the voucher before.
- On upgrade from Silver to Gold, any remaining Silver upgrade coupons expire, but they are replaced by four Gold ones which expire at the end of the Gold membership year.
BEWARE
- Once you have upgraded your seat, your ticket will be reissued. Suddenly, this ticket may be VERY expensive to change. If, for instance, you later decide to travel on a different date, you will probably be required to rebook into Business, even if Economy was available for new bookings. A3 will charge you the difference from your original Economy fare to a NEW Business fare. Plus fees, taxes and whatnot. Update 18/08/2021: this appears to no longer be the case, as an upgraded ticket was changed and the underlying Economy fare was used for the upgraded segments. The coupon was "removed" from the old dates and "reapplied" to the new dates.
- Coupons will not be returned/reinstated. Once a coupon is applied, it is gone for good (the T&Cs printed on the coupons allow for date and time changes, but not route changes).
- If you want to provide your coupons to upgrade a friend's travel, it is advisable to call in yourself. Your friend can call in if they know your name, birthdate, M&B-number and the email address associated with your account. That means: Anyone who knows these particulars can use your coupons without your knowledge. They do NOT need the coupon numbers.
- Crediting upgraded segments to another program will likely fail, as it will be reported as I-class. It may be possible to retro-claim the miles.
Seat upgrade coupons
Apr 13, 2018, 11:48 am
#1651
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: San Francisco, CA & Bangkok (Home)/Lawrenceville & Switzerland (Boarding School)/Baltimore, MD (College)
Programs: DL DM, AL MVPG 75K, SQ Gold, BA Silver, HH Diamond, Hyatt Globalist, Marriot Plat, Hertz Pres Circle
Posts: 599
I was denied credit. Anyway to get them to reconsider?
Apr 13, 2018, 6:58 pm
#1653
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Heraklion, Greece
Posts: 7,564
Apr 14, 2018, 1:08 am
#1654
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: PAS, Paros Greece
Programs: A3 *G
Posts: 1,369
Did it actually say " L class is ineligible for mileage earning" or was it some more generic message? You have to be really careful retro-claiming these flights. You have to enter the original booking class into the claim form as it will reject it automatically if you enter I class. Also, you don't get a second chance to retro-claim - it just says "request already exist". Just call them. I'm sure it will be sorted within a couple of days, if not immediately.
Apr 15, 2018, 8:12 am
#1655
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: San Francisco, CA & Bangkok (Home)/Lawrenceville & Switzerland (Boarding School)/Baltimore, MD (College)
Programs: DL DM, AL MVPG 75K, SQ Gold, BA Silver, HH Diamond, Hyatt Globalist, Marriot Plat, Hertz Pres Circle
Posts: 599
Did it actually say " L class is ineligible for mileage earning" or was it some more generic message? You have to be really careful retro-claiming these flights. You have to enter the original booking class into the claim form as it will reject it automatically if you enter I class. Also, you don't get a second chance to retro-claim - it just says "request already exist". Just call them. I'm sure it will be sorted within a couple of days, if not immediately.
Apr 15, 2018, 12:53 pm
#1656
Join Date: Feb 2014
Posts: 24
Hey,
I just booked tickets waw-ath (30.05-03.06) in economy. Before booking I was checking via M&B account (Spend Miles search) that for both flights business class availability exists (it still exist when I search now).
However when I was calling A3 I was told there is no availability for any of the flight and I am waitlisted for both of them. How come? Does search engine in M&B account does not correspond to coupon upgrade availability now?
Additionally when I look now for my reservation via App or Web it does not look 'weird" as some people reported above, ie. it is not shown double
I just booked tickets waw-ath (30.05-03.06) in economy. Before booking I was checking via M&B account (Spend Miles search) that for both flights business class availability exists (it still exist when I search now).
However when I was calling A3 I was told there is no availability for any of the flight and I am waitlisted for both of them. How come? Does search engine in M&B account does not correspond to coupon upgrade availability now?
Additionally when I look now for my reservation via App or Web it does not look 'weird" as some people reported above, ie. it is not shown double
Last edited by mknalewo; Apr 15, 2018 at 1:02 pm
Apr 15, 2018, 1:10 pm
#1657
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: BSL, BCN
Programs: A3*G, IB
Posts: 106
Hi mknalewo
I re-checked everything for you on aegean.com and on expertflyer.com. 1 seat is available on your outward and 2 on your return in booking class "I". You should call them again and insist..
I hope that this is not a negative effect of the upgrades you can bid for.....
Hope your ticket is booked in the necessary booking classes...
I re-checked everything for you on aegean.com and on expertflyer.com. 1 seat is available on your outward and 2 on your return in booking class "I". You should call them again and insist..
I hope that this is not a negative effect of the upgrades you can bid for.....
Hope your ticket is booked in the necessary booking classes...
Apr 16, 2018, 2:40 pm
#1658
Join Date: Feb 2014
Posts: 24
Second agent told me the same...
Today I saw at least that for outward fly I have "two" itineraries in My Booking (one in original booking class, one in I) so apparently i am waitlisted, but for return it is not the case. Frankly speaking I dont get it. And my tickets were booked in L and S class so both should be eligible.
Hope this will clear out...
Today I saw at least that for outward fly I have "two" itineraries in My Booking (one in original booking class, one in I) so apparently i am waitlisted, but for return it is not the case. Frankly speaking I dont get it. And my tickets were booked in L and S class so both should be eligible.
Hope this will clear out...
Apr 17, 2018, 2:17 am
#1659
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Netherlands
Posts: 4,279
Hi,
I have a very weird situation which I can't understand why I can't upgrade the ticket which I purchased between DUS-ATH. It is booked in J class (economy) via an OTA. I called and I was told that this is a special fare ticket which cannot be upgraded, which is strange since this ticket earns 100% miles under the program. Also the agent further mentioned that there is no fare on this ticket and I only paid taxes (which is also not true since there is a value on the ticket).
Anyone can enlighten me on this situation?
Thanks in advance!
Cheers!
I have a very weird situation which I can't understand why I can't upgrade the ticket which I purchased between DUS-ATH. It is booked in J class (economy) via an OTA. I called and I was told that this is a special fare ticket which cannot be upgraded, which is strange since this ticket earns 100% miles under the program. Also the agent further mentioned that there is no fare on this ticket and I only paid taxes (which is also not true since there is a value on the ticket).
Anyone can enlighten me on this situation?
Thanks in advance!
Cheers!
Apr 17, 2018, 6:17 am
#1661
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Netherlands
Posts: 4,279
Tried calling again and I was again told that this is a special OTA fare that cannot be upgradable. No idea why than it is place into the J-class - and on A3 tix stock. It seems that they cannot see the price paid for the ticket.
First time facing such a complicated situation in using my upgrade coupon. Am just going to give up and use my coupons for another time (maybe again another long weekend to ATH). Will just tough it out in Economy this round, at least I get (I hope) full 100% mileage for this trip based on the bk class and not whatever special fare.
Cheers!
First time facing such a complicated situation in using my upgrade coupon. Am just going to give up and use my coupons for another time (maybe again another long weekend to ATH). Will just tough it out in Economy this round, at least I get (I hope) full 100% mileage for this trip based on the bk class and not whatever special fare.
Cheers!
Apr 17, 2018, 8:20 am
#1662
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: 39000ft
Posts: 955
Second agent told me the same...
Today I saw at least that for outward fly I have "two" itineraries in My Booking (one in original booking class, one in I) so apparently i am waitlisted, but for return it is not the case. Frankly speaking I dont get it. And my tickets were booked in L and S class so both should be eligible.
Hope this will clear out...
Today I saw at least that for outward fly I have "two" itineraries in My Booking (one in original booking class, one in I) so apparently i am waitlisted, but for return it is not the case. Frankly speaking I dont get it. And my tickets were booked in L and S class so both should be eligible.
Hope this will clear out...
Tried calling again and I was again told that this is a special OTA fare that cannot be upgradable. No idea why than it is place into the J-class - and on A3 tix stock. It seems that they cannot see the price paid for the ticket.
First time facing such a complicated situation in using my upgrade coupon. Am just going to give up and use my coupons for another time (maybe again another long weekend to ATH). Will just tough it out in Economy this round, at least I get (I hope) full 100% mileage for this trip based on the bk class and not whatever special fare.
Cheers!
First time facing such a complicated situation in using my upgrade coupon. Am just going to give up and use my coupons for another time (maybe again another long weekend to ATH). Will just tough it out in Economy this round, at least I get (I hope) full 100% mileage for this trip based on the bk class and not whatever special fare.
Cheers!
Apr 17, 2018, 8:58 am
#1663
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: SIN 5 days out of 7
Programs: BD*G, A3*G, BA-S, Accor Gold, IHG Amb
Posts: 5,505
Is the ticket definately booked on A3 or OA ticket stock, i.e. ticket number starting with 390 or 050? https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28554658-post3.html
Regardless of ticket stock though, there is a risk that perhaps the OTA booked you into an unpublished fare, available only to Consolidators. These are usually exempt from mileage earning on many/most? airlines (I have not checked, but I suspect the Miles and Bonus T&Cs state this somewhere), and I presume they apply the same logic to the application of Upgrade Coupons, even if they have not explicitly stated so in the T&Cs.
Regardless of ticket stock though, there is a risk that perhaps the OTA booked you into an unpublished fare, available only to Consolidators. These are usually exempt from mileage earning on many/most? airlines (I have not checked, but I suspect the Miles and Bonus T&Cs state this somewhere), and I presume they apply the same logic to the application of Upgrade Coupons, even if they have not explicitly stated so in the T&Cs.
Apr 17, 2018, 8:59 am
#1664
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Netherlands
Posts: 4,279
Anyway I am satisfy since about 2 weeks out I still managed to get a reasonable fare to ATH. (My mistake that I did not plan earlier to get better fares)
I now feel that it is quite dangerous to buy tickets from OTA if you plan to upgrade since you never know what is special and what is not even the booking class does not fall into their "forbidden" category.
Cheers!
May 4, 2018, 10:58 am
#1665
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: YWG
Posts: 2,272
Called Aegean and they told me that the one that does not look like the above pic is waitlisted. So not sure what to make of the above pic and statement in terms of accuracy...
