Mar 9, 2015, 6:33 am
Last edit by: Gnopps
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A friendly reminder that Flyertalk is not a marketplace, and nothing may be offered (or solicited) for sale or barter within the general forums - which includes offering vouchers for free. For those with sufficient posts and length of membership, trading/exchange is allowed solely within Coupon Connection, and then only in accordance with the specific rules of that forum.
Please do not attempt to solicit, sell or trade upgrade vouchers within this forum. Posts will be deleted and the members concerned potentially subject to disciplinary action. **Please note that this includes directly using the PM system to do so without first posting in Coupon Connection**. Thanks for your co-operation.
A friendly reminder that Flyertalk is not a marketplace, and nothing may be offered (or solicited) for sale or barter within the general forums - which includes offering vouchers for free. For those with sufficient posts and length of membership, trading/exchange is allowed solely within Coupon Connection, and then only in accordance with the specific rules of that forum.
Please do not attempt to solicit, sell or trade upgrade vouchers within this forum. Posts will be deleted and the members concerned potentially subject to disciplinary action. **Please note that this includes directly using the PM system to do so without first posting in Coupon Connection**. Thanks for your co-operation.
Criteria
- You must be travelling on A3 or OA metal - codeshares are not included.
- The original ticket must be issued on either A3 (390) or OA (050) ticket stock.
- Only revenue (paid) tickets, in fare classes other than U, P & T on a GoLight fare basis, can be upgraded, but not redemption tickets.
- All flights on the ticket must be on A3 or OA metal.
- There must be award availability in I-class for the upgrades to clear. You can check this by logging in to M&B then going to https://en.aegeanair.com/milesandbon...t/spend-miles/ The results page will initially be a calendar. To see Business availability, you have to click through to the next step. (You can also use a free or paid tool such as ANA website, UA website (looking for saver award space), Aeroplan, AwardNexus or ExpertFlyer to check for availability.)
- One coupon per person per journey leg is required - so, for example, TXL-ATH-SKG and return via the same route would require four coupons per person.
- Anyone can be upgraded using the coupons - you do not have to be travelling on the same booking or even the same plane.
Procedure
- Call A3 to request the upgrade. The phone numbers are listed at https://aegeanairlines.custhelp.com/ (most of them should go to the same call centre in Greece).
- If successful, a new ticket will be issued (with a new number). The PNR will remain unchanged.
- You are liable for any extra taxes applicable to Business Class (e.g. APD from the UK). Sometimes this gets charged, sometimes it doesn't - if it's due and you're not charged because the agent forgets, you've just been lucky.
- If there's no immediate I-class availability, you can ask to be waitlisted for upgrade. The ability to waitlist was reported to have been removed in August 2016, but was again possible in September. Check with the agent - option available on May 2018.
- in case you requested to be waitlisted for upgrade and want to check if the customer care agent made the changes on your booking you can check the reservation on checkmytrip.com (click here), the leg you requested the upgrade will be shown here as ”Waitlisted”.
- If you wish to upgrade one segment of a multi-segment trip (e.g. XXX-ATH-YYY) and there is availability on the leg you wish to upgrade, you may still have to be waitlisted due to married segment issues. The process of clearing the waitlist is somewhat confusing and may result in frustration due to the availability seeming to disappear but in reality, this may mean that the segments have been "unmarried" and the availability has been allocated to your reservation. See post 2272 and the update in post 2294 for more details.
Benefits
- No matter what the fare basis of the original ticket, you receive full Business Class benefits after upgrade.
- This includes lounge access (useful if you're upgrading someone other than yourself who has no status, or if you've run out of Silver lounge vouchers) and full baggage allowance (it applies for first leg as well, in case you are upgraded only on the 2nd leg of your trip - confirmed on the etix).
- Because the ticket books as a redemption, the free car hire is not included.
Mileage/segment earning
- You will earn at the underlying rate of your purchased ticket in economy, not at a business class rate. Because status miles are awarded, this also counts as a segment for re-qualification purposes.
- The flights may credit automatically, but may take longer to credit than tickets that have not been changed. They may also credit as 0 miles, and later change to the correct rate. If the flights have not credited properly after a few weeks then calling A3 will rectify this rapidly.
Expiry
- The vouchers expire at the end of your membership year - they do not carry over, even if status is retained. A new set is issued every year.
- It is the date when you use the voucher that matters. It can upgrade a flight that takes place after expiry as long as you apply the voucher before.
- On upgrade from Silver to Gold, any remaining Silver upgrade coupons expire, but they are replaced by four Gold ones which expire at the end of the Gold membership year.
BEWARE
- Once you have upgraded your seat, your ticket will be reissued. Suddenly, this ticket may be VERY expensive to change. If, for instance, you later decide to travel on a different date, you will probably be required to rebook into Business, even if Economy was available for new bookings. A3 will charge you the difference from your original Economy fare to a NEW Business fare. Plus fees, taxes and whatnot. Update 18/08/2021: this appears to no longer be the case, as an upgraded ticket was changed and the underlying Economy fare was used for the upgraded segments. The coupon was "removed" from the old dates and "reapplied" to the new dates.
- Coupons will not be returned/reinstated. Once a coupon is applied, it is gone for good (the T&Cs printed on the coupons allow for date and time changes, but not route changes).
- If you want to provide your coupons to upgrade a friend's travel, it is advisable to call in yourself. Your friend can call in if they know your name, birthdate, M&B-number and the email address associated with your account. That means: Anyone who knows these particulars can use your coupons without your knowledge. They do NOT need the coupon numbers.
- Crediting upgraded segments to another program will likely fail, as it will be reported as I-class. It may be possible to retro-claim the miles.
Seat upgrade coupons
Oct 2, 2016, 1:24 am
#1081
Suspended
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: MAN,TLV
Programs: Silver:BA,VX,AB, QF. Gold:A3,RJ,AZ,GF, EY,SPG,Marriott,Choice, Carlson. Dia/Plat:HH,IHG,BW,Accor
Posts: 1,965
Wow bad news. But I guess it was bound to come, like other airlines, BA, AZ etc no? Stops us getting a cheap J AMS-ATH for 40 Euro (@Xandrios)
Oct 2, 2016, 1:34 am
#1083
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: TXL
Posts: 218
Bad changes indeed and wrong communication from Aegean's side - I also remember when the 50% coupon was silently removed from the benefits. Most of my flights with A3 book in the classes U,T,P so not sure I'll be able to use my coupons in the future.
Oct 2, 2016, 2:46 am
#1085
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Wedged somewhere between BTS and VIE ✈
Programs: Star Alliance Gold (A3 Gold), Oneworld Emerald (BA Gold), Hilton Diamond
Posts: 6,338
Oct 2, 2016, 4:05 am
#1088
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: TXL
Posts: 218
United does sell A3 tickets but issued under 016 stock and will thus not be eligible for upgrade. Only way to book a specific fare for now is through the call center which also means a 20€ service fee.
Oct 2, 2016, 4:45 am
#1089
Moderator: Aegean Miles+Bonus
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: AMS / ATH
Programs: AFKL Plat, A3 Gold
Posts: 7,339
Thanks.
I still had 2 coupons left (due to expire in a month) and a whole bunch of Economy (U class) flights already booked. Stupidly I postponed upgrading and now it is no longer possible for the already booked flights.
..at least that is what I thought. Just called Aegean, did not mention the changes, and used both vouchers successfully on U-class flights.
Edit: ...aaand Aegean just called back to cancel the upgrades due to this new rule. Dang it!
I still had 2 coupons left (due to expire in a month) and a whole bunch of Economy (U class) flights already booked. Stupidly I postponed upgrading and now it is no longer possible for the already booked flights.
..at least that is what I thought. Just called Aegean, did not mention the changes, and used both vouchers successfully on U-class flights.
Edit: ...aaand Aegean just called back to cancel the upgrades due to this new rule. Dang it!
Last edited by Xandrios; Oct 2, 2016 at 4:52 am
Oct 2, 2016, 4:53 am
#1090
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Canada
Programs: AC E50k, A3*G, UA*S, MR Titanium, HHonors Gold, Carlson Gold, NEXUS
Posts: 3,669
What if you book it through the website and call to upfare within 24h?
Oct 2, 2016, 4:56 am
#1091
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: TXL
Posts: 218
Oct 2, 2016, 5:00 am
#1092
Join Date: Nov 2015
Programs: A3*G
Posts: 128
That's exactly my problem too and the call centre doesn't waive the fee. Sad news and despite all the good things they do, they did it without notice again.
Oct 2, 2016, 5:31 am
#1093
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Canada
Programs: AC E50k, A3*G, UA*S, MR Titanium, HHonors Gold, Carlson Gold, NEXUS
Posts: 3,669
If they had the UPT restriction but waived the 20€ phone booking fee, this would be more palatable, but as it stands now, it's unreasonable: if I don't have a TA, how am I expected to book a qualifying fare class
Oct 2, 2016, 6:32 am
#1094
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Wedged somewhere between BTS and VIE ✈
Programs: Star Alliance Gold (A3 Gold), Oneworld Emerald (BA Gold), Hilton Diamond
Posts: 6,338
Just out of interest does anybody have any idea what the different costs are for the eligible fares? i.e. the cash difference between the P fare and an eligible fare on a typical route, say ATH-TXL. I imagine that it's not a massive amount.
Oct 2, 2016, 7:26 am
#1095
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: SIN 5 days out of 7
Programs: BD*G, A3*G, BA-S, Accor Gold, IHG Amb
Posts: 5,505
A quick play on ITA, searching one fare class at a time for LHR-ATH-LHR gave me this:
Class GBP
p £125
u £156
t £195
s £227
k £253
l £281
w £316
a £324
v £351
q £386
h £435
m £481
b £552
z £604
y £654
d £744
c £960
p £125
u £156
t £195
s £227
k £253
l £281
w £316
a £324
v £351
q £386
h £435
m £481
b £552
z £604
y £654
d £744
c £960