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A friendly reminder that Flyertalk is not a marketplace, and nothing may be offered (or solicited) for sale or barter within the general forums - which includes offering vouchers for free. For those with sufficient posts and length of membership, trading/exchange is allowed solely within Coupon Connection, and then only in accordance with the specific rules of that forum.

Please do not attempt to solicit, sell or trade upgrade vouchers within this forum. Posts will be deleted and the members concerned potentially subject to disciplinary action. **Please note that this includes directly using the PM system to do so without first posting in Coupon Connection**. Thanks for your co-operation.
A3 provides all Gold members with four vouchers for upgrade from Economy to Business. Silver members get two upgrade vouchers.

Criteria
  • You must be travelling on A3 or OA metal - codeshares are not included.
  • The original ticket must be issued on either A3 (390) or OA (050) ticket stock.
  • Only revenue (paid) tickets, in fare classes other than U, P & T on a GoLight fare basis, can be upgraded, but not redemption tickets.
  • All flights on the ticket must be on A3 or OA metal.
  • There must be award availability in I-class for the upgrades to clear. You can check this by logging in to M&B then going to https://en.aegeanair.com/milesandbon...t/spend-miles/ The results page will initially be a calendar. To see Business availability, you have to click through to the next step. (You can also use a free or paid tool such as ANA website, UA website (looking for saver award space), Aeroplan, AwardNexus or ExpertFlyer to check for availability.)
  • One coupon per person per journey leg is required - so, for example, TXL-ATH-SKG and return via the same route would require four coupons per person.
  • Anyone can be upgraded using the coupons - you do not have to be travelling on the same booking or even the same plane.

Procedure
  • Call A3 to request the upgrade. The phone numbers are listed at https://aegeanairlines.custhelp.com/ (most of them should go to the same call centre in Greece).
  • If successful, a new ticket will be issued (with a new number). The PNR will remain unchanged.
  • You are liable for any extra taxes applicable to Business Class (e.g. APD from the UK). Sometimes this gets charged, sometimes it doesn't - if it's due and you're not charged because the agent forgets, you've just been lucky.
  • If there's no immediate I-class availability, you can ask to be waitlisted for upgrade. The ability to waitlist was reported to have been removed in August 2016, but was again possible in September. Check with the agent - option available on May 2018.
    • in case you requested to be waitlisted for upgrade and want to check if the customer care agent made the changes on your booking you can check the reservation on checkmytrip.com (click here), the leg you requested the upgrade will be shown here as ”Waitlisted”.
  • If you wish to upgrade one segment of a multi-segment trip (e.g. XXX-ATH-YYY) and there is availability on the leg you wish to upgrade, you may still have to be waitlisted due to married segment issues. The process of clearing the waitlist is somewhat confusing and may result in frustration due to the availability seeming to disappear but in reality, this may mean that the segments have been "unmarried" and the availability has been allocated to your reservation. See post 2272 and the update in post 2294 for more details.

Benefits
  • No matter what the fare basis of the original ticket, you receive full Business Class benefits after upgrade.
  • This includes lounge access (useful if you're upgrading someone other than yourself who has no status, or if you've run out of Silver lounge vouchers) and full baggage allowance (it applies for first leg as well, in case you are upgraded only on the 2nd leg of your trip - confirmed on the etix).
  • Because the ticket books as a redemption, the free car hire is not included.

Mileage/segment earning
  • You will earn at the underlying rate of your purchased ticket in economy, not at a business class rate. Because status miles are awarded, this also counts as a segment for re-qualification purposes.
  • The flights may credit automatically, but may take longer to credit than tickets that have not been changed. They may also credit as 0 miles, and later change to the correct rate. If the flights have not credited properly after a few weeks then calling A3 will rectify this rapidly.

Expiry
  • The vouchers expire at the end of your membership year - they do not carry over, even if status is retained. A new set is issued every year.
  • It is the date when you use the voucher that matters. It can upgrade a flight that takes place after expiry as long as you apply the voucher before.
  • On upgrade from Silver to Gold, any remaining Silver upgrade coupons expire, but they are replaced by four Gold ones which expire at the end of the Gold membership year.

BEWARE
  • Once you have upgraded your seat, your ticket will be reissued. Suddenly, this ticket may be VERY expensive to change. If, for instance, you later decide to travel on a different date, you will probably be required to rebook into Business, even if Economy was available for new bookings. A3 will charge you the difference from your original Economy fare to a NEW Business fare. Plus fees, taxes and whatnot. Update 18/08/2021: this appears to no longer be the case, as an upgraded ticket was changed and the underlying Economy fare was used for the upgraded segments. The coupon was "removed" from the old dates and "reapplied" to the new dates.
  • Coupons will not be returned/reinstated. Once a coupon is applied, it is gone for good (the T&Cs printed on the coupons allow for date and time changes, but not route changes).
  • If you want to provide your coupons to upgrade a friend's travel, it is advisable to call in yourself. Your friend can call in if they know your name, birthdate, M&B-number and the email address associated with your account. That means: Anyone who knows these particulars can use your coupons without your knowledge. They do NOT need the coupon numbers.
  • Crediting upgraded segments to another program will likely fail, as it will be reported as I-class. It may be possible to retro-claim the miles.
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Old Oct 3, 2018, 12:10 pm
  #1786  
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Heraklion, Greece
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Originally Posted by Tafflyer
...Aegean confusion or incompetence I am not sure..
Nothing of the kind, I'd say, only the Egyptian handlers did not know how to deal with that situation.
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Old Oct 4, 2018, 2:04 am
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Originally Posted by KLouis
Nothing of the kind, I'd say, only the Egyptian handlers did not know how to deal with that situation.
Yes, I had to wait 15 minutes while the check-in agent called Aegean and then waited for a call back. I always check in with plenty of time in CAI so that was ok. I believe the upgrade did not clear but that a seat in Economy was no longer available due to overbooking and I was simply placed in C class.
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Old Oct 22, 2018, 12:21 pm
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guys, a few weeks ago I called Aegean to ask for an upgrade, the agent checked the availability, there was two seats available and I asked her to upgrade me and my friend on two flights. She asked me to stand by for a minute to check if there is a difference on fees... in my case there was no difference in fees but AFAIK the airport taxes and other fees should be same for J and Y pax, isnt all the time the case? how high the fees for J can be?
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Old Oct 22, 2018, 12:37 pm
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Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Paris, France
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J and Y airport tax are not always the same. ie from Paris to Athens airport tax is 10 euros higher for business class passenger.
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Old Oct 22, 2018, 1:07 pm
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Similarly for flights departing the UK, the Air Passenger Duty (Tax) is higher for passengers in J than it is for passengers in Y. Only exception to this is flights from Belfast direct to North America and flights from Inverness where no Air Passenger Duty is charged.
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Old Oct 22, 2018, 1:21 pm
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ok, I didnt know. FYI, flights to/from CAI and OTP have same taxes for Y and J
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Old Oct 23, 2018, 9:22 am
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LHR to ATH I paid 12 euros to be upgraded in business
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Old Oct 26, 2018, 4:06 pm
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Join Date: Sep 2008
Programs: A3 *G, AA exePlat, AS MVP 75k Gold, JL sapphire, UA silver
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trying to use my upgrade coupon for the first time in Dec. It has I class but I am still wait listed for upgrade, is that the policy?
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Old Oct 26, 2018, 7:57 pm
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Seems to be since they introduced bidding for business class...
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Old Oct 27, 2018, 1:41 am
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not really, I had flights upgraded immediately even the ones booked about 3 weeks in advance in July
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Old Oct 27, 2018, 9:00 am
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Yes, the last time I used a coupon I was upgraded immediately.
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Old Oct 27, 2018, 9:34 am
  #1797  
 
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: ARN
Programs: A3*G, SK*G
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Originally Posted by fransknorge
Yes, the last time I used a coupon I was upgraded immediately.
Originally Posted by GBobon
not really, I had flights upgraded immediately even the ones booked about 3 weeks in advance in July
Same here. Flight in late September, both Mrs East and me were upgraded immediately when I called (although probably because it was already late in Greece I only received the confirmation e-mail next morning). Plane (including C cabin) ended up almost fully booked.
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Old Oct 27, 2018, 10:24 am
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The agent acknowledges that I class is 2, yet still waitlisted.
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Old Oct 27, 2018, 10:52 am
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Originally Posted by pbd456
The agent acknowledges that I class is 2, yet still waitlisted.
I have no idea what may be going on but let me make a guess. Somebody placed before you a voucher upgrade request for 3-4 pax (some family perhaps?)

I have a couple of times requested a voucher upgrade for my wife and me (both on the same booking) when there was only one I-fare seat available. I was informed that we would be thus waitlisted until a second award seat in C shows up, otherwise we would both fly on Y. When asked what happens if a solo passenger requests a voucher upgrade in the meantime, I was told that the remaining I seat would be withheld. If a second one would become available before upgrades clear, then it would be Mrs East and me that would be upgraded, if not only then the other passenger would get this seat. I was also told that when upgrades clear, priority is given to A3*Gs, then A3*Ss, then M&B Blue members, and finally non-members. Within each of these groups allocation is decided on a first-request-first-serve basis. Both times we received our upgrade confirmation at around T-50 or so.

So could this be the case here as well?

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Old Oct 27, 2018, 2:25 pm
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Join Date: Sep 2008
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Originally Posted by East_and_West
I have no idea what may be going on but let me make a guess. Somebody placed before you a voucher upgrade request for 3-4 pax (some family perhaps?)

I have a couple of times requested a voucher upgrade for my wife and me (both on the same booking) when there was only one I-fare seat available. I was informed that we would be thus waitlisted until a second award seat in C shows up, otherwise we would both fly on Y. When asked what happens if a solo passenger requests a voucher upgrade in the meantime, I was told that the remaining I seat would be withheld. If a second one would become available before upgrades clear, then it would be Mrs East and me that would be upgraded, if not only then the other passenger would get this seat. I was also told that when upgrades clear, priority is given to A3*Gs, then A3*Ss, then M&B Blue members, and finally non-members. Within each of these groups allocation is decided on a first-request-first-serve basis. Both times we received our upgrade confirmation at around T-50 or so.

So could this be the case here as well?
My outbound on Dec 31 has I2 and my inbound on Jan 4 has I3. I would be quite unlucky for neither of them clearing, right?
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