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Old Mar 2, 2016, 12:16 pm
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No YQ airlines/routes/countries

NZ, CM, AV, O6, NH, SQ, ET

UA:

All flights except from U.S to: ICN

AC:

Within North America

TPAC flights originated from Canada to:
Japan(NRT,HND,KIX), Australia(SYD,BNE)

For TPAC arriving to Canada:
YQ-free countries/cities (see below)
ex-Australia flights (SYD, BNE)

All TATL flights

List of YQ-free cities/countries:

Hong Kong (depart only)
Brazil (depart only)
Philippines (depart only)
Thailand (depart only)
South Korea (depart only)

For Japan:
Departing flights base on J class direct fights from NRT
Example: NRT-ZRH on LX, NRT-FRA on LH

No YQ: UA, AC, AI, NZ, ET, LO, ZH

Less then 20 Euros YQ: LH, SK, CA, OZ, BR, SQ, LX, TK

Greater than 20 Euros YQ: TG (94 Euros)

NH has less than 20 Euros YQ for most of it's destination

Arriving flights base on J class direct fights to NRT
Example: ZRH- NRT on LX, FRA-NRT on LH

No YQ: UA, AC, TG, NZ, OZ

Less than 20 Euros YQ: BR (14 Euros)

20 - 100 Euros YQ: SQ (20 Euros SIN-NRT, 26 Euros LAX-NRT), ET(95 Euros), CA (41 Euros), ZH (40 Euros)

Greater than 100 Euros: LH (246 Euros), AI (185 Euros), LO (177 Euros), SK (135 Euros), LX(262 Euros), TK (130 Euros)

Again, NH has less than 20 Euros YQ for flights arriving to NRT.


YQ + Fee for award flights, feel free to add more on the list (at the end of it) if you have made a recent redemption.

TK SFO-IST-TLV 237,90 Euro
LH SFO-FRA-TLV 376,76 Euro
UA&LH SFO-FRA(UA)-TLV(LH) 104,77 Euro
SIN-FRA (SQ) Y - 181,75 Euro
SIN-DEL(AI)-FRA(LH) J - 257,15 Euro
HKG-PEK-FRA (CA) J - 149,72 Euro
TPE-IST-FRA (TK) Y - 149,75 Euro
TPE-PEK-FRA (CA) J - 149,43 Euro
YYZ-SFO(AC)-TPE (UA) Y - 159,28 Euro
YYZ-PVG(AC)-TPE (BR) Y - 191,24 Euro
YYZ-PVG(AC)-TPE (BR) J - 227,41 Euro
FRA-YUL (AC) Y - 104,00 Euro
FRA-LHR(LH)-YUL (AC) Y - 182,00 Euro
FRA-YYZ-YUL (AC) Y - 142,99 Euro
FRA-LHR(LH)-YUL(AC) J - 187,00 Euro
BKK-HND (TG) Y - 111 Euros
CDG-PEK (CA) Y- 207,88 EUROS
CDG-PEK (CA) J - 298,44 EUROS
CDG-FRA-PEK (LH) Y - 209,13 EUROS
CDG-ICN-PEK (OZ) Y - 264,52 EUROS
CDG-ICN-PEK (OZ) J - 305,04 EUROS
CDG-TPE (BR) Y - 164,31 EUROS
CDG-TPE (BR) J - 204,90 EUROS
CDG-PVG-TPE (CA) Y - 189,99 EUROS
CDG-ICN(OZ)-TPE(TG) - 301,70 EUROS
FRA-MUC-YUL J (LH) - 355,90 Euros
FRA-CDG(LH)-YUL(AC) J - 170.00 Euros
AC Y: 188,37 Euro YYZ-PEK
AC J: 238,77 Euro YYZ-PEK
UA Y: 79,74 Euro YYZ-ORD-PEK
ATH-CAI-AUH (MS) Y - 148,07 EUROS
AKL-SIN (NZ) Y - 41,03 Euros
ORD-NRT (NH) Y,J,C - 44,17 Euros
ORD-NRT (UA) Y,J,C - 41,42 Euros
JFK - SIN- MEL (SQ) Y -789,00 Euros
ZRH - HKG (Y) LX - 260,06 EUR
ZRH-FRA-HKG (Y) LH - 281,33 EUR
NRT-ORD (Y) NH - 73,43 EUR
MNL-BKK-SIN (J) (TG) - 31,40 Euros
BKK-MNL (TG) (Y)- 84,76 Euros
MNL-SIN (SQ) (J) - 30,46 Euros
---2016----
HKG-FRA-BUD (LH) C - 114.24 Euros (all cost; one-way; as of 2016-Mar)
BKK-NRT (TG) J - 131.79 Euros
MIA-VIE-FRA (OS) C - 458.76 Euro*
* date change with same airline and route = 20 eur/pp
change route = 40 eur/pp (cancel and rebook)
same date but change to other airline = 40 eur/pp (cancel and rebook)
ARN-FRA-LAX (LH) C/F - 296.26 Euro (OW 276.26 YQ + 20 fee per person; booked in 2015)
YYC-DEN (UA) Y 101 euros with 20 booking fee
LIS-IST-GYD (TK) (J) 22k + 160€ taxes one way [of these YR=98€] [taxes were the same for LH+TP]
MNL-ADD-MXP (ET) (Y) - 11,47€
MUC-CDG(LH)-TPE(BR) (J) - 210,05 Euro
MUC-LHR(LH)-TPE(BR) (J) - 249,80 Euro
MUC-HKG(LH)-TPE(BR) (J) - 334,08 Euro
MUC-IST(TK)-TPE(BR) (J) - 162,26 Euro
KIX-SIN-DPS J (SQ) - 95,23 Euro
NRT-SIN-DPS J (NH,SQ) - 93,45 Euro
YYZ-FRA-JNB Y (AC, SA) - 208,85 Euro
YYZ-FRA-JNB J (LH, SA) - 583,31 Euro
YUL-LAX-AKL J (AC, NZ) - 105,27 Euro
ICN-SIN-DPS Y (SQ) - 175,89 Euro
ICN-SIN-DPS J (SQ) - 200,08 Euro
YYZ-NRT Y (AC) - 57,21 Euros
PEK-YVR Y (AC) - 164,84 Euros
PEK-NRT-YVR Y, J (NH) - 181,26 Euros
DEL-YYZ - Y (AC) - 386,76 Euros
BNE-YVR - Y (AC) - 75,61 Euros
LCA-VIE-BKK-VIE-LCA J (OS) €580
YYZ-PVG - Y (AC) 182,83 Euros
YYZ-ORD-PVG - Y (UA) - 76,54 Euros
YVR-SFO-ICN - Y (UA) - 139,96 Euros
YVR-ICN - Y (AC) - 120,09 Euros
PVG-YYZ - Y (AC) 175,49 Euros
PVG-ORD-YYZ - Y (UA) - 51,45 Euros
CDG-MUC-HND - J (LH,NH) - 116,62 Euros
CDG-HND - J (NH) - 115,43 Euros
CMN-FRA-CDG - J (LH) - 189,00 Euros
ATH-FRA-RAK - Y (LH) - 161,16 Euros
ATH-FRA-RAK - J (LH) - 167,16 Euros
CDG-TPE-HKG - Y (BR) - 133,09 Euros
TPE-ICN - Y (OZ) - 46,00 Euros
YUL-ZRH-GVA - Y (LX) - 269,34 Euros
CDG-FRA-HND - J (LH,NH) - 160,65 Euros
CDG-MUC-HND - J (LH,NH) - 157,90 Euros
YUL-MUC-BKK - Y (LH,TG) - 344,40 Euros
YUL-IST-BKK - Y, J (TK) - 280,30 Euros
ADD-LAX - Y (ET) - 248,87 Euros
ADD-LHR-LAX - Y (ET, UA) - 169,36 Euros
ADD-IST-LAX - J (TK) - 291,38 Euros
TPE-IST-CDG - J (TK) - 218,91 Euros
TPE-SIN-CDG - Y (SQ) - 273,08 Euros
ICN-TPE-VIE - J (OZ,BR) - 52,94 Euros(total cost,flights in April 2017)
FRA-CPH - Y (LH) - 97,09€
YYZ-LGA//JFK-JNB (Y) (AC,SA) - 288,62 Euros
YYZ-LGA//JFK-JNB (J) (AC,SA) - 332,00 Euros
YYZ-ADD-JNB (Y) (ET) - 302,79 Euros
YYZ-LHR-JNB (Y) (AC,SA) - 200,36 Euros
YYZ-LHR-JNB (J) (AC,SA) - 273,58 Euros
NRT-PEK-ADD (Y,J) (NH,ET) - 156,96 Euros
NRT-PVG-ADD (Y) (NH, ET) - 156,96 Euros
YYZ-LIM (Y) (AC) - 141,99 Euros
YYZ-SAL-LIM , Y (AV) - 72,03 Euros
YYZ-TPE-HKG (Y,J) (BR) - 78,89 Euros
YYZ-ORD-HKG (Y) (UA) - 99,61 Euros
YYZ-EWR-HKG (Y) (UA)- 99,61 Euros
ORD-CDG (Y) (UA) - 25,27 Euros
ORD-FRA-CDG (LH) - 373,00 Euros
GVA-FRA-LAX and return JFK-GVA (LH, LX) - 487,96 Euros
----------------2017------------------
GRU-FRA-TLL (F,J) (LH) - 103,60 Euros
YYZ-SFO (J) (AC) - 64,55 Euros
YVR-HKG (Y) (AC) - 83,46 Euros
HKG-ICN-OKA (Y) (OZ) - 54,47 Euros
CPH-PVG-AKL (J) (SK/NZ) - ~200€
TXL-FRA-BKK-FRA-TXL (J) (LH/TG/TG/LH) - 252 Euros
SIN-HND (J) (SQ) - 42,88 Euros
ZRH-BKK-MEL (J) (TG) - €49.22
GVA-ZRH-YUL (J,Y) (LX) - 256,44€
HKG-ICN (Y) (OZ) - €25.54
SIN-CPH (Y) (SQ) - 103,31€
SIN-LHR-CPH (Y) (SQ,SK) - 103,31€
FRA-CAI-SSH (C) (MS) - 177 EUR
FRA-IST-SSH (C) (TK) - 197 EUR
YYZ-DUB (J) (AC) - EUR68.11 (EUR48.11+EUR20 fee)
HKG-IST-GOT (J) (TK) - EUR110.71 (EUR90.71 + EUR20 fee; ticketed in Aug 2017; one-way)
SFO-TUS (Y) (UA) - EUR32,11 (EUR12,11 + EUR20 fee. Ticketed in Sep 2017; one way)
TUS-SFO (Y) (UA) - EUR31,85 (EUR11,85 + EUR20 fee. Ticketed in Sep 2017; one way)
TXL-IST-SIN/ BKK-ZUR-TXL (J) (TK/SQ/TG/LX) €231.74 + €20 fee
EWR-PDX (Y) (UA) - EURO 31.87
SIN-BKK-CDG (J) TG - 77,08 €
SIN-CDG (Y) SQ - 41,45€
SIN-FRA-CDG (Y) LH - 252,39€
SIN-IST (J) SQ - 41,53€
SIN-IST (J) TK - 176,89€
YUL-ZRH (J) - 360,72€
----------------2018------------------
BKK-ARN-TLL (J) TG,SK - 92€ (flights in 2019) online booking
BLZ-ADD-GRU (J) ET - 29.54€ online
GRU-ZHR-LCY (J) LX- 30Ł online
YUL-LYS-VIE / VIE-GVA-YUL (J); 197€ online (AC/OS)
HKG-IST-HEL (Y one-way on TK; flights in 2019) - 40,000miles plus EUR81.33, online booking (post #1635)
SIN-SFO (J) SQ - €43.6 online booking
----------------2019------------------
CPH-LIS-GIG (J) TP (€46.5) online
BKK-PVG (J) TG - 64.67€ online
LAX-ARN-HEL (J) SK - €12.50 online
CPH-LIS (Y) TP - (€36,70) online
LAX-HND-LHR (F) NH - (€151) online (flight in Apr2020)
HKG-TPE (J) BR (€53.28) online (redemption in Aug 2019)
EZE-GRU (J) ET 61.60€ online
EZE-GRU (J) TK 61.60€ online
VIE-BKK-TPE-SFO (J) BR - 240.00€ (YQ) + 60.99€ (Taxes etc.) online (flight in summer 2020)
LAX-HND-LHR (F) NH - 135.82€ (YQ) + 15.97€ (Taxes etc.) online (flight in fall 2020)
LHR-HND-LAX (F) NH Round-Trip + 569.23€ online pre-devaluation
AC CDG-YYZ-YYJ Euro 98.85 (Eco, 35k miles, oneway, booked Oct 2021, inlcudes Euro 36.- YQ)
SQ+TK REP-SIN-IST-NCE Euro 98.46 (Eco, 60k miles, oneway, booked Feb 2022 - inlcudes Euro 61.31 YR)
SQ+TK REP-SIN-IST-NCE Euro 102.18 (Eco, 60k miles, oneway, booked March 2022 - includes Euro 63.36 YR plus another 0.44 YR)
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Old May 6, 2019, 3:33 am
  #1861  
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
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Originally Posted by Unionruler
My point exactly. The policy says KF availability is separate from partners. Partners should certainly not have long haul First/ Suites award inventory. But in practice they do a few times a year because of IT issues/ human error with award inventory loading, and lapses in the segregation of KF from partner award inventory . Hence I am looking for test cases from people who have redeemed A3 awards, involving SQ long haul premium award inventory, which are grey on backtracking between zones.
not to throw cold water to the question, but these are secrets well guarded.
if we are talking about the past (routes that may no longer be available), as opposed to the present (where open discussion of such routes might lead to a flood of redemptions, and SQ closing the cracks), then my past premium cabin routes via A3 M&B and LifeMiles are as follows:

HND-SIN J 777W
SIN-SYD J 777W
the quoted SIN-SFO J in ULH A350
CGK-SIN (&vv) F on the 772.

some might still be available even now, so please keep digging.
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Old May 6, 2019, 9:49 am
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Join Date: May 2007
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Originally Posted by Unionruler
My point exactly. The policy says KF availability is separate from partners. Partners should certainly not have long haul First/ Suites award inventory. But in practice they do a few times a year because of IT issues/ human error with award inventory loading, and lapses in the segregation of KF from partner award inventory . Hence I am looking for test cases from people who have redeemed A3 awards, involving SQ long haul premium award inventory, which are grey on backtracking between zones.
waiting for your contribution
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Old May 7, 2019, 6:12 am
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it seems that after end of august OZ will not sell F anymore... some of us are booked in F award after august however I see no changes on my reservation, yet.
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Old May 9, 2019, 11:26 am
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Join Date: May 2011
Location: SAN/ BKK
Programs: aa lifetime platinum, ba club, delta sky club, delta sky miles, delta sky club life,kal skypass
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I check with United on their chat, they don't have an update yet


can't get to the check booking on the Asiana site.

checking for flights, they show all a380 first seats sold out starting sept/ 1

any one have better luck?
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Old May 10, 2019, 1:37 am
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First you have to create an account and then you can check award bookings on OZ
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Old May 10, 2019, 2:43 am
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Originally Posted by GBobon
it seems that after end of august OZ will not sell F anymore... some of us are booked in F award after august however I see no changes on my reservation, yet.
I just received an email from Asiana regarding my F reservation.

HalloWith the introduction of Business Suite, we have officially decided to stop offering First Class service for flights as of September 1, 2019.
The previous seat (12 first Class) will change as a business suite.

Reservation Nr XXXXXX

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx MR(ADT)

OZ 542 O DATE 5 FRAICN HK1 1735 1205 DATE E OZ/XXXXXX
OZ 204 O DATE 6 ICNLAX HK1 2040 1450 DATE E OZ/XXXXXX

please contact the direct point of ticketing.( AWARD INT OID EUR) And change a Booking class (O->I)
Of course, without charge the difference of miles will be refunded.

Although the Booking class is "I", you can take Business Suite. Or you can cancel your ticket without Fee.

Asiana Airlines will make our best efforts to ensure the quality of service.

Thank you.

Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Best regards
I contacted Aegean to reissue the ticket on I class, but they offered only to refund it. If the ticket will be cancelled, I am afraid that will not have access to business suite again, or not? :/
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Old May 10, 2019, 8:05 am
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Join Date: May 2011
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I do have an account set up, still comes up with no info,


worked last week no problem
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Old May 11, 2019, 7:58 am
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Join Date: Sep 2006
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Originally Posted by GBobon
I just received an email from Asiana regarding my F reservation.



I contacted Aegean to reissue the ticket on I class, but they offered only to refund it. If the ticket will be cancelled, I am afraid that will not have access to business suite again, or not? :/
I still haven't received any info from OZ, but as I am traveling next March I'm in no big hurry.
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Old May 12, 2019, 12:46 pm
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@vulle, my ticket is for next March too, from FRA. I talked with OZ and they confirmed that it will be an exception as I will travel in business suite with business class award, but it will happen only if Aegean will downgrade the ticket instead of cancelling it and then issue a new one in J... but I see Aegean is not willing to do that but to cancel and refund
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Old May 13, 2019, 2:23 pm
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Join Date: May 2011
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on Asiana site, it looks like the seats remain the same as first, just the service changes to business.


still no info in getting the extra mileage refunded though
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Old May 13, 2019, 3:27 pm
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Join Date: May 2011
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just got off the united chat ( and phone call back) they were able to get 50K refund and keeping the same seat.

very helpful

cudos to united
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Old May 13, 2019, 10:26 pm
  #1872  
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
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The differences in taxes and fees for redemption tickets across different airlines are becoming increasingly excessive. Today, I booked a one-way business class ticket from MIA to TXL via WAW on LOT in February 2020 for 45k miles plus €86 taxes (mostly fuel surcharge). By contrast, LX wanted 45k miles plus €598 taxes and fees which must surely be a record for a TATL one-way redemption. Going the other way, I got a business fare on TAP via LIS for 45k miles plus €102 taxes.
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Old May 13, 2019, 10:38 pm
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Join Date: Dec 2013
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A one-way business ticket from BKK to TXL via ZUR in December 2019 on TG/LX today cost 55k miles plus €190 taxes and fees. Most of the fees were for the very short LX sector. It seems that TK availability in I class from the Far East to Europe (and vice-versa) has become almost non-existent in recent months.

Going the other way from TXL to BKK via VIE in November 2019 on OS/TG in business class cost 55k miles plus €288 taxes and fees.

Last edited by johnirvine; May 13, 2019 at 10:49 pm Reason: Add extra information.
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Old May 14, 2019, 1:56 am
  #1874  
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
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Is it now possible to book redemptions on LH in F using A3 miles from FRA? I want to experience LH F and the first class terminal at. Frankfurt. I already have quite a few A3 miles as I have credited *A flights for several years but if F is not available through A3 then I need to start from nearly scratch with Miles & More.

Can someone offer a brief summary as although I have dredged through this and other threads I can’t work out a clear answer! Perhaps there isn’t one!
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Old May 14, 2019, 2:14 am
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Yes it is possible. Just use A3 website to search for availability. It seems the key is to be very flexible and willing to travel short notice, as availability opens up around 14 days before departure.
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