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Old Mar 2, 2016, 12:16 pm
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No YQ airlines/routes/countries

NZ, CM, AV, O6, NH, SQ, ET

UA:

All flights except from U.S to: ICN

AC:

Within North America

TPAC flights originated from Canada to:
Japan(NRT,HND,KIX), Australia(SYD,BNE)

For TPAC arriving to Canada:
YQ-free countries/cities (see below)
ex-Australia flights (SYD, BNE)

All TATL flights

List of YQ-free cities/countries:

Hong Kong (depart only)
Brazil (depart only)
Philippines (depart only)
Thailand (depart only)
South Korea (depart only)

For Japan:
Departing flights base on J class direct fights from NRT
Example: NRT-ZRH on LX, NRT-FRA on LH

No YQ: UA, AC, AI, NZ, ET, LO, ZH

Less then 20 Euros YQ: LH, SK, CA, OZ, BR, SQ, LX, TK

Greater than 20 Euros YQ: TG (94 Euros)

NH has less than 20 Euros YQ for most of it's destination

Arriving flights base on J class direct fights to NRT
Example: ZRH- NRT on LX, FRA-NRT on LH

No YQ: UA, AC, TG, NZ, OZ

Less than 20 Euros YQ: BR (14 Euros)

20 - 100 Euros YQ: SQ (20 Euros SIN-NRT, 26 Euros LAX-NRT), ET(95 Euros), CA (41 Euros), ZH (40 Euros)

Greater than 100 Euros: LH (246 Euros), AI (185 Euros), LO (177 Euros), SK (135 Euros), LX(262 Euros), TK (130 Euros)

Again, NH has less than 20 Euros YQ for flights arriving to NRT.


YQ + Fee for award flights, feel free to add more on the list (at the end of it) if you have made a recent redemption.

TK SFO-IST-TLV 237,90 Euro
LH SFO-FRA-TLV 376,76 Euro
UA&LH SFO-FRA(UA)-TLV(LH) 104,77 Euro
SIN-FRA (SQ) Y - 181,75 Euro
SIN-DEL(AI)-FRA(LH) J - 257,15 Euro
HKG-PEK-FRA (CA) J - 149,72 Euro
TPE-IST-FRA (TK) Y - 149,75 Euro
TPE-PEK-FRA (CA) J - 149,43 Euro
YYZ-SFO(AC)-TPE (UA) Y - 159,28 Euro
YYZ-PVG(AC)-TPE (BR) Y - 191,24 Euro
YYZ-PVG(AC)-TPE (BR) J - 227,41 Euro
FRA-YUL (AC) Y - 104,00 Euro
FRA-LHR(LH)-YUL (AC) Y - 182,00 Euro
FRA-YYZ-YUL (AC) Y - 142,99 Euro
FRA-LHR(LH)-YUL(AC) J - 187,00 Euro
BKK-HND (TG) Y - 111 Euros
CDG-PEK (CA) Y- 207,88 EUROS
CDG-PEK (CA) J - 298,44 EUROS
CDG-FRA-PEK (LH) Y - 209,13 EUROS
CDG-ICN-PEK (OZ) Y - 264,52 EUROS
CDG-ICN-PEK (OZ) J - 305,04 EUROS
CDG-TPE (BR) Y - 164,31 EUROS
CDG-TPE (BR) J - 204,90 EUROS
CDG-PVG-TPE (CA) Y - 189,99 EUROS
CDG-ICN(OZ)-TPE(TG) - 301,70 EUROS
FRA-MUC-YUL J (LH) - 355,90 Euros
FRA-CDG(LH)-YUL(AC) J - 170.00 Euros
AC Y: 188,37 Euro YYZ-PEK
AC J: 238,77 Euro YYZ-PEK
UA Y: 79,74 Euro YYZ-ORD-PEK
ATH-CAI-AUH (MS) Y - 148,07 EUROS
AKL-SIN (NZ) Y - 41,03 Euros
ORD-NRT (NH) Y,J,C - 44,17 Euros
ORD-NRT (UA) Y,J,C - 41,42 Euros
JFK - SIN- MEL (SQ) Y -789,00 Euros
ZRH - HKG (Y) LX - 260,06 EUR
ZRH-FRA-HKG (Y) LH - 281,33 EUR
NRT-ORD (Y) NH - 73,43 EUR
MNL-BKK-SIN (J) (TG) - 31,40 Euros
BKK-MNL (TG) (Y)- 84,76 Euros
MNL-SIN (SQ) (J) - 30,46 Euros
---2016----
HKG-FRA-BUD (LH) C - 114.24 Euros (all cost; one-way; as of 2016-Mar)
BKK-NRT (TG) J - 131.79 Euros
MIA-VIE-FRA (OS) C - 458.76 Euro*
* date change with same airline and route = 20 eur/pp
change route = 40 eur/pp (cancel and rebook)
same date but change to other airline = 40 eur/pp (cancel and rebook)
ARN-FRA-LAX (LH) C/F - 296.26 Euro (OW 276.26 YQ + 20 fee per person; booked in 2015)
YYC-DEN (UA) Y 101 euros with 20 booking fee
LIS-IST-GYD (TK) (J) 22k + 160€ taxes one way [of these YR=98€] [taxes were the same for LH+TP]
MNL-ADD-MXP (ET) (Y) - 11,47€
MUC-CDG(LH)-TPE(BR) (J) - 210,05 Euro
MUC-LHR(LH)-TPE(BR) (J) - 249,80 Euro
MUC-HKG(LH)-TPE(BR) (J) - 334,08 Euro
MUC-IST(TK)-TPE(BR) (J) - 162,26 Euro
KIX-SIN-DPS J (SQ) - 95,23 Euro
NRT-SIN-DPS J (NH,SQ) - 93,45 Euro
YYZ-FRA-JNB Y (AC, SA) - 208,85 Euro
YYZ-FRA-JNB J (LH, SA) - 583,31 Euro
YUL-LAX-AKL J (AC, NZ) - 105,27 Euro
ICN-SIN-DPS Y (SQ) - 175,89 Euro
ICN-SIN-DPS J (SQ) - 200,08 Euro
YYZ-NRT Y (AC) - 57,21 Euros
PEK-YVR Y (AC) - 164,84 Euros
PEK-NRT-YVR Y, J (NH) - 181,26 Euros
DEL-YYZ - Y (AC) - 386,76 Euros
BNE-YVR - Y (AC) - 75,61 Euros
LCA-VIE-BKK-VIE-LCA J (OS) €580
YYZ-PVG - Y (AC) 182,83 Euros
YYZ-ORD-PVG - Y (UA) - 76,54 Euros
YVR-SFO-ICN - Y (UA) - 139,96 Euros
YVR-ICN - Y (AC) - 120,09 Euros
PVG-YYZ - Y (AC) 175,49 Euros
PVG-ORD-YYZ - Y (UA) - 51,45 Euros
CDG-MUC-HND - J (LH,NH) - 116,62 Euros
CDG-HND - J (NH) - 115,43 Euros
CMN-FRA-CDG - J (LH) - 189,00 Euros
ATH-FRA-RAK - Y (LH) - 161,16 Euros
ATH-FRA-RAK - J (LH) - 167,16 Euros
CDG-TPE-HKG - Y (BR) - 133,09 Euros
TPE-ICN - Y (OZ) - 46,00 Euros
YUL-ZRH-GVA - Y (LX) - 269,34 Euros
CDG-FRA-HND - J (LH,NH) - 160,65 Euros
CDG-MUC-HND - J (LH,NH) - 157,90 Euros
YUL-MUC-BKK - Y (LH,TG) - 344,40 Euros
YUL-IST-BKK - Y, J (TK) - 280,30 Euros
ADD-LAX - Y (ET) - 248,87 Euros
ADD-LHR-LAX - Y (ET, UA) - 169,36 Euros
ADD-IST-LAX - J (TK) - 291,38 Euros
TPE-IST-CDG - J (TK) - 218,91 Euros
TPE-SIN-CDG - Y (SQ) - 273,08 Euros
ICN-TPE-VIE - J (OZ,BR) - 52,94 Euros(total cost,flights in April 2017)
FRA-CPH - Y (LH) - 97,09€
YYZ-LGA//JFK-JNB (Y) (AC,SA) - 288,62 Euros
YYZ-LGA//JFK-JNB (J) (AC,SA) - 332,00 Euros
YYZ-ADD-JNB (Y) (ET) - 302,79 Euros
YYZ-LHR-JNB (Y) (AC,SA) - 200,36 Euros
YYZ-LHR-JNB (J) (AC,SA) - 273,58 Euros
NRT-PEK-ADD (Y,J) (NH,ET) - 156,96 Euros
NRT-PVG-ADD (Y) (NH, ET) - 156,96 Euros
YYZ-LIM (Y) (AC) - 141,99 Euros
YYZ-SAL-LIM , Y (AV) - 72,03 Euros
YYZ-TPE-HKG (Y,J) (BR) - 78,89 Euros
YYZ-ORD-HKG (Y) (UA) - 99,61 Euros
YYZ-EWR-HKG (Y) (UA)- 99,61 Euros
ORD-CDG (Y) (UA) - 25,27 Euros
ORD-FRA-CDG (LH) - 373,00 Euros
GVA-FRA-LAX and return JFK-GVA (LH, LX) - 487,96 Euros
----------------2017------------------
GRU-FRA-TLL (F,J) (LH) - 103,60 Euros
YYZ-SFO (J) (AC) - 64,55 Euros
YVR-HKG (Y) (AC) - 83,46 Euros
HKG-ICN-OKA (Y) (OZ) - 54,47 Euros
CPH-PVG-AKL (J) (SK/NZ) - ~200€
TXL-FRA-BKK-FRA-TXL (J) (LH/TG/TG/LH) - 252 Euros
SIN-HND (J) (SQ) - 42,88 Euros
ZRH-BKK-MEL (J) (TG) - €49.22
GVA-ZRH-YUL (J,Y) (LX) - 256,44€
HKG-ICN (Y) (OZ) - €25.54
SIN-CPH (Y) (SQ) - 103,31€
SIN-LHR-CPH (Y) (SQ,SK) - 103,31€
FRA-CAI-SSH (C) (MS) - 177 EUR
FRA-IST-SSH (C) (TK) - 197 EUR
YYZ-DUB (J) (AC) - EUR68.11 (EUR48.11+EUR20 fee)
HKG-IST-GOT (J) (TK) - EUR110.71 (EUR90.71 + EUR20 fee; ticketed in Aug 2017; one-way)
SFO-TUS (Y) (UA) - EUR32,11 (EUR12,11 + EUR20 fee. Ticketed in Sep 2017; one way)
TUS-SFO (Y) (UA) - EUR31,85 (EUR11,85 + EUR20 fee. Ticketed in Sep 2017; one way)
TXL-IST-SIN/ BKK-ZUR-TXL (J) (TK/SQ/TG/LX) €231.74 + €20 fee
EWR-PDX (Y) (UA) - EURO 31.87
SIN-BKK-CDG (J) TG - 77,08 €
SIN-CDG (Y) SQ - 41,45€
SIN-FRA-CDG (Y) LH - 252,39€
SIN-IST (J) SQ - 41,53€
SIN-IST (J) TK - 176,89€
YUL-ZRH (J) - 360,72€
----------------2018------------------
BKK-ARN-TLL (J) TG,SK - 92€ (flights in 2019) online booking
BLZ-ADD-GRU (J) ET - 29.54€ online
GRU-ZHR-LCY (J) LX- 30Ł online
YUL-LYS-VIE / VIE-GVA-YUL (J); 197€ online (AC/OS)
HKG-IST-HEL (Y one-way on TK; flights in 2019) - 40,000miles plus EUR81.33, online booking (post #1635)
SIN-SFO (J) SQ - €43.6 online booking
----------------2019------------------
CPH-LIS-GIG (J) TP (€46.5) online
BKK-PVG (J) TG - 64.67€ online
LAX-ARN-HEL (J) SK - €12.50 online
CPH-LIS (Y) TP - (€36,70) online
LAX-HND-LHR (F) NH - (€151) online (flight in Apr2020)
HKG-TPE (J) BR (€53.28) online (redemption in Aug 2019)
EZE-GRU (J) ET 61.60€ online
EZE-GRU (J) TK 61.60€ online
VIE-BKK-TPE-SFO (J) BR - 240.00€ (YQ) + 60.99€ (Taxes etc.) online (flight in summer 2020)
LAX-HND-LHR (F) NH - 135.82€ (YQ) + 15.97€ (Taxes etc.) online (flight in fall 2020)
LHR-HND-LAX (F) NH Round-Trip + 569.23€ online pre-devaluation
AC CDG-YYZ-YYJ Euro 98.85 (Eco, 35k miles, oneway, booked Oct 2021, inlcudes Euro 36.- YQ)
SQ+TK REP-SIN-IST-NCE Euro 98.46 (Eco, 60k miles, oneway, booked Feb 2022 - inlcudes Euro 61.31 YR)
SQ+TK REP-SIN-IST-NCE Euro 102.18 (Eco, 60k miles, oneway, booked March 2022 - includes Euro 63.36 YR plus another 0.44 YR)
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Old Feb 25, 2018, 8:24 pm
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Originally Posted by yuayua
Does anyone have any experience redeeming premium class seats on domestic flights with NH? I am browsing several months for HND-CTS but am seeing only economy availability. Or is it not possible to redeem premium class seats?
Um, domestic premium class is only available with ANA miles, and not available to partners.
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Old Feb 26, 2018, 5:01 pm
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Originally Posted by Stewie Mac
ACC-JNB in SA J, next week, one way - 21k miles plus eur 218 (matches ITA exactly). Good value for a six hour flight on the new A333.
The online booking tool is why my A3 mileage burning rate has increased big time. It’s an improved experience from a convenience perspective.
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Old Feb 26, 2018, 10:18 pm
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Originally Posted by Tokyoite
No stop-overs allowed, and maximum one connection allowed. Any more, and you willl have to pay as though they are two separate awards on the same ticket.
And here I thought all *A are made equal

So I can still do MNL-AMS via IST but no stop over.
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Old Mar 1, 2018, 4:18 am
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Did they change the Star Alliance award ticket chart? Did they merge the zones of Europe with North Africa and change the cost to 30k/50k (Y/C)? I don't remember it being like this; I remember one zone for Europe priced at 25k/42k?
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Old Mar 1, 2018, 5:18 am
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Originally Posted by ErnstH
Did they change the Star Alliance award ticket chart? Did they merge the zones of Europe with North Africa and change the cost to 30k/50k (Y/C)? I don't remember it being like this; I remember one zone for Europe priced at 25k/42k?
it seems so.
award chart in 2016 (screen shots in blog post)
Aegean-Award-Chart - One Mile at a Time

award chart in 2017 (screen shots in another blog post)
https://princeoftravel.com/blog/guid...es-miles-bonus

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Old Mar 2, 2018, 1:55 am
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The Europe-Europe rates were increased back in November and it was posted and discussed here:

Award chart devaluation

As for North Africa - that's always been included in the same region as Europe as far as I know; well at least for the last four years.
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Old Mar 2, 2018, 5:24 am
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Originally Posted by Knobbgb
The Europe-Europe rates were increased back in November and it was posted and discussed here:

Award chart devaluation

As for North Africa - that's always been included in the same region as Europe as far as I know; well at least for the last four years.
Thanks, it seems I managed to completely forget about this, since I even reacted in the thread you linked to.
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Old Mar 22, 2018, 4:45 pm
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A while back I booked a Business award from BCN to CAI, using TK and MS. M&B charged me 25,000 and told me that the MS segment will be in Y only as the plane does not have a J cabin. Today I went to look at the booking on MS's website and it seems MS is bringing in their 737 with a J cabin, and we have been allocated seats in the J cabin. Its a short flight but I guess it makes a difference.
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Old Mar 27, 2018, 2:41 pm
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I wanted to book reward flights for 2 people
MLE-SIN-LHR
on aegean webpage I only see 2 possibility for my day
SIN-LHR have flights 4 times per day and see only 2, on Sinagpore Airlines I see award space for all flights (so I can choose segment SIN-LHR from 4 options)
I tried to book by phone but agent said what they can sell only what they see from SIngapore Airlines and now its impossible to book award as 2 oneways and split togehter

is true?
or I should try another agent?
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Old Mar 27, 2018, 3:16 pm
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It is true.
First, note that you will not have access to any business class awards on Singapore Airlines A380, 77W, A350, 787 flights.
Second, for economy class (and business class on 772 or A330 flights) , Singapore Airlines does not release all its award inventory to other star alliance partners like Aegean, Aeroplan Lufthansa or United. It keeps some inventory for its own frequent flyer members.
So, checking on Singapore Airlines website doesn't help you at all.
Instead, please check the Singapore Airlines award availability on another star alliance partner website, such as ANA, Aeroplan or Lufthansa.
The check should confirm availability similar to what Aegean telephone agents see.
If you share your dates, I can confirm availability for you.

[KVS Tool 8.7.7/Diamond - Timetable]
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SIN  Singapore Changi SG [WSSS]
LHR  London Heathrow UK [EGLL]
SAT  05 May 2018 - 11 May 2018

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Frequency   Dur'n   Dep T   Arr T   Meals   Miles   Kms   Codeshare
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  -------------------------------------------------------------------
SQ         306     SIN   01:10     LHR   07:45     77W  0   1234567     14:35       3       2   M        6769 10894
SQ         308     SIN   09:00     LHR   15:40     388  0   1234567     14:40       3       2   M        6769 10894
SQ         318     SIN   12:35     LHR   19:15     77W  0   1234567     14:40       3       2   M        6769 10894
SQ         322     SIN   23:30     LHR   05:55 +1  388  0   1234567     14:25       3       2   M        6769 10894
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Old Mar 27, 2018, 6:16 pm
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The flights which I want together I can find on Aegean but as one waysSQ451andSQ322
I'm looking for
24Feb 2019
MLE-SIN-LHR
SIN-LHR on 25 Feb (flight from male arriving early morning on 25Feb)

thx for informations

Last edited by p78; Mar 27, 2018 at 7:05 pm
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Old Mar 27, 2018, 11:19 pm
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Originally Posted by p78
The flights which I want together I can find on Aegean but as one waysSQ451andSQ322
I'm looking for
24Feb 2019
MLE-SIN-LHR
SIN-LHR on 25 Feb (flight from male arriving early morning on 25Feb)

thx for informations
I really doubt that you can book a MLE-SIN-LHR flight as a single award ticket. MLE is in the Central Asia region, with 30,000 miles for a one-way trip in economy. SIN is in the Far East region, with 40,000 miles for a one-way trip. It's a huge detour via a more expensive region. If you want to fly MLE-LHR, you will probably have to either fly with TK or AI, or book two separate awards, MLE-SIN and SIN-LHR.
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Old Apr 3, 2018, 11:40 am
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Originally Posted by p78
The flights which I want together I can find on Aegean but as one waysSQ451andSQ322
I'm looking for
24Feb 2019
MLE-SIN-LHR
SIN-LHR on 25 Feb (flight from male arriving early morning on 25Feb)

thx for informations
First, you run into the region issues written above, and second, you are way beyond the MPM25. MLE-LHR is 5605 miles, a 25% allowance on top (125% max) has maximum permitted mileage (MPM) of 6632 miles. Your route suggestion (Link) is obviously exceeding it and wont price out as one award.
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Old Apr 5, 2018, 2:23 am
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Just booked TXL-FRA-YYC in J for 45k + €134.39 on LH+AC. The LH leg had €50 YQ . As this could not be booked online, I got the booking fee waived, although doing so required calling in during normal business hours (I first called at 11pm, the agent was unable to waive it and told me to call in at 9am, then availability on my flights disappeared and I had to push the trip a week back).
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Old Apr 6, 2018, 4:57 am
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Originally Posted by pewpew
Just booked TXL-FRA-YYC in J for 45k + €134.39 on LH+AC. The LH leg had €50 YQ . As this could not be booked online, I got the booking fee waived, although doing so required calling in during normal business hours (I first called at 11pm, the agent was unable to waive it and told me to call in at 9am, then availability on my flights disappeared and I had to push the trip a week back).
Why couldn't it be booked online?
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