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Please report your Star Alliance award redemption experiences

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No YQ airlines/routes/countries

NZ, CM, AV, O6, NH, SQ, ET

UA:

All flights except from U.S to: ICN

AC:

Within North America

TPAC flights originated from Canada to:
Japan(NRT,HND,KIX), Australia(SYD,BNE)

For TPAC arriving to Canada:
YQ-free countries/cities (see below)
ex-Australia flights (SYD, BNE)

All TATL flights

List of YQ-free cities/countries:

Hong Kong (depart only)
Brazil (depart only)
Philippines (depart only)
Thailand (depart only)
South Korea (depart only)

For Japan:
Departing flights base on J class direct fights from NRT
Example: NRT-ZRH on LX, NRT-FRA on LH

No YQ: UA, AC, AI, NZ, ET, LO, ZH

Less then 20 Euros YQ: LH, SK, CA, OZ, BR, SQ, LX, TK

Greater than 20 Euros YQ: TG (94 Euros)

NH has less than 20 Euros YQ for most of it's destination

Arriving flights base on J class direct fights to NRT
Example: ZRH- NRT on LX, FRA-NRT on LH

No YQ: UA, AC, TG, NZ, OZ

Less than 20 Euros YQ: BR (14 Euros)

20 - 100 Euros YQ: SQ (20 Euros SIN-NRT, 26 Euros LAX-NRT), ET(95 Euros), CA (41 Euros), ZH (40 Euros)

Greater than 100 Euros: LH (246 Euros), AI (185 Euros), LO (177 Euros), SK (135 Euros), LX(262 Euros), TK (130 Euros)

Again, NH has less than 20 Euros YQ for flights arriving to NRT.


YQ + Fee for award flights, feel free to add more on the list (at the end of it) if you have made a recent redemption.

TK SFO-IST-TLV 237,90 Euro
LH SFO-FRA-TLV 376,76 Euro
UA&LH SFO-FRA(UA)-TLV(LH) 104,77 Euro
SIN-FRA (SQ) Y - 181,75 Euro
SIN-DEL(AI)-FRA(LH) J - 257,15 Euro
HKG-PEK-FRA (CA) J - 149,72 Euro
TPE-IST-FRA (TK) Y - 149,75 Euro
TPE-PEK-FRA (CA) J - 149,43 Euro
YYZ-SFO(AC)-TPE (UA) Y - 159,28 Euro
YYZ-PVG(AC)-TPE (BR) Y - 191,24 Euro
YYZ-PVG(AC)-TPE (BR) J - 227,41 Euro
FRA-YUL (AC) Y - 104,00 Euro
FRA-LHR(LH)-YUL (AC) Y - 182,00 Euro
FRA-YYZ-YUL (AC) Y - 142,99 Euro
FRA-LHR(LH)-YUL(AC) J - 187,00 Euro
BKK-HND (TG) Y - 111 Euros
CDG-PEK (CA) Y- 207,88 EUROS
CDG-PEK (CA) J - 298,44 EUROS
CDG-FRA-PEK (LH) Y - 209,13 EUROS
CDG-ICN-PEK (OZ) Y - 264,52 EUROS
CDG-ICN-PEK (OZ) J - 305,04 EUROS
CDG-TPE (BR) Y - 164,31 EUROS
CDG-TPE (BR) J - 204,90 EUROS
CDG-PVG-TPE (CA) Y - 189,99 EUROS
CDG-ICN(OZ)-TPE(TG) - 301,70 EUROS
FRA-MUC-YUL J (LH) - 355,90 Euros
FRA-CDG(LH)-YUL(AC) J - 170.00 Euros
AC Y: 188,37 Euro YYZ-PEK
AC J: 238,77 Euro YYZ-PEK
UA Y: 79,74 Euro YYZ-ORD-PEK
ATH-CAI-AUH (MS) Y - 148,07 EUROS
AKL-SIN (NZ) Y - 41,03 Euros
ORD-NRT (NH) Y,J,C - 44,17 Euros
ORD-NRT (UA) Y,J,C - 41,42 Euros
JFK - SIN- MEL (SQ) Y -789,00 Euros
ZRH - HKG (Y) LX - 260,06 EUR
ZRH-FRA-HKG (Y) LH - 281,33 EUR
NRT-ORD (Y) NH - 73,43 EUR
MNL-BKK-SIN (J) (TG) - 31,40 Euros
BKK-MNL (TG) (Y)- 84,76 Euros
MNL-SIN (SQ) (J) - 30,46 Euros
---2016----
HKG-FRA-BUD (LH) C - 114.24 Euros (all cost; one-way; as of 2016-Mar)
BKK-NRT (TG) J - 131.79 Euros
MIA-VIE-FRA (OS) C - 458.76 Euro*
* date change with same airline and route = 20 eur/pp
change route = 40 eur/pp (cancel and rebook)
same date but change to other airline = 40 eur/pp (cancel and rebook)
ARN-FRA-LAX (LH) C/F - 296.26 Euro (OW 276.26 YQ + 20 fee per person; booked in 2015)
YYC-DEN (UA) Y 101 euros with 20 booking fee
LIS-IST-GYD (TK) (J) 22k + 160 taxes one way [of these YR=98] [taxes were the same for LH+TP]
MNL-ADD-MXP (ET) (Y) - 11,47
MUC-CDG(LH)-TPE(BR) (J) - 210,05 Euro
MUC-LHR(LH)-TPE(BR) (J) - 249,80 Euro
MUC-HKG(LH)-TPE(BR) (J) - 334,08 Euro
MUC-IST(TK)-TPE(BR) (J) - 162,26 Euro
KIX-SIN-DPS J (SQ) - 95,23 Euro
NRT-SIN-DPS J (NH,SQ) - 93,45 Euro
YYZ-FRA-JNB Y (AC, SA) - 208,85 Euro
YYZ-FRA-JNB J (LH, SA) - 583,31 Euro
YUL-LAX-AKL J (AC, NZ) - 105,27 Euro
ICN-SIN-DPS Y (SQ) - 175,89 Euro
ICN-SIN-DPS J (SQ) - 200,08 Euro
YYZ-NRT Y (AC) - 57,21 Euros
PEK-YVR Y (AC) - 164,84 Euros
PEK-NRT-YVR Y, J (NH) - 181,26 Euros
DEL-YYZ - Y (AC) - 386,76 Euros
BNE-YVR - Y (AC) - 75,61 Euros
LCA-VIE-BKK-VIE-LCA J (OS) 580
YYZ-PVG - Y (AC) 182,83 Euros
YYZ-ORD-PVG - Y (UA) - 76,54 Euros
YVR-SFO-ICN - Y (UA) - 139,96 Euros
YVR-ICN - Y (AC) - 120,09 Euros
PVG-YYZ - Y (AC) 175,49 Euros
PVG-ORD-YYZ - Y (UA) - 51,45 Euros
CDG-MUC-HND - J (LH,NH) - 116,62 Euros
CDG-HND - J (NH) - 115,43 Euros
CMN-FRA-CDG - J (LH) - 189,00 Euros
ATH-FRA-RAK - Y (LH) - 161,16 Euros
ATH-FRA-RAK - J (LH) - 167,16 Euros
CDG-TPE-HKG - Y (BR) - 133,09 Euros
TPE-ICN - Y (OZ) - 46,00 Euros
YUL-ZRH-GVA - Y (LX) - 269,34 Euros
CDG-FRA-HND - J (LH,NH) - 160,65 Euros
CDG-MUC-HND - J (LH,NH) - 157,90 Euros
YUL-MUC-BKK - Y (LH,TG) - 344,40 Euros
YUL-IST-BKK - Y, J (TK) - 280,30 Euros
ADD-LAX - Y (ET) - 248,87 Euros
ADD-LHR-LAX - Y (ET, UA) - 169,36 Euros
ADD-IST-LAX - J (TK) - 291,38 Euros
TPE-IST-CDG - J (TK) - 218,91 Euros
TPE-SIN-CDG - Y (SQ) - 273,08 Euros
ICN-TPE-VIE - J (OZ,BR) - 52,94 Euros(total cost,flights in April 2017)
FRA-CPH - Y (LH) - 97,09
YYZ-LGA//JFK-JNB (Y) (AC,SA) - 288,62 Euros
YYZ-LGA//JFK-JNB (J) (AC,SA) - 332,00 Euros
YYZ-ADD-JNB (Y) (ET) - 302,79 Euros
YYZ-LHR-JNB (Y) (AC,SA) - 200,36 Euros
YYZ-LHR-JNB (J) (AC,SA) - 273,58 Euros
NRT-PEK-ADD (Y,J) (NH,ET) - 156,96 Euros
NRT-PVG-ADD (Y) (NH, ET) - 156,96 Euros
YYZ-LIM (Y) (AC) - 141,99 Euros
YYZ-SAL-LIM , Y (AV) - 72,03 Euros
YYZ-TPE-HKG (Y,J) (BR) - 78,89 Euros
YYZ-ORD-HKG (Y) (UA) - 99,61 Euros
YYZ-EWR-HKG (Y) (UA)- 99,61 Euros
ORD-CDG (Y) (UA) - 25,27 Euros
ORD-FRA-CDG (LH) - 373,00 Euros
GVA-FRA-LAX and return JFK-GVA (LH, LX) - 487,96 Euros
----------------2017------------------
GRU-FRA-TLL (F,J) (LH) - 103,60 Euros
YYZ-SFO (J) (AC) - 64,55 Euros
YVR-HKG (Y) (AC) - 83,46 Euros
HKG-ICN-OKA (Y) (OZ) - 54,47 Euros
CPH-PVG-AKL (J) (SK/NZ) - ~200
TXL-FRA-BKK-FRA-TXL (J) (LH/TG/TG/LH) - 252 Euros
SIN-HND (J) (SQ) - 42,88 Euros
ZRH-BKK-MEL (J) (TG) - 49.22
GVA-ZRH-YUL (J,Y) (LX) - 256,44
HKG-ICN (Y) (OZ) - 25.54
SIN-CPH (Y) (SQ) - 103,31
SIN-LHR-CPH (Y) (SQ,SK) - 103,31
FRA-CAI-SSH (C) (MS) - 177 EUR
FRA-IST-SSH (C) (TK) - 197 EUR
YYZ-DUB (J) (AC) - EUR68.11 (EUR48.11+EUR20 fee)
HKG-IST-GOT (J) (TK) - EUR110.71 (EUR90.71 + EUR20 fee; ticketed in Aug 2017; one-way)
SFO-TUS (Y) (UA) - EUR32,11 (EUR12,11 + EUR20 fee. Ticketed in Sep 2017; one way)
TUS-SFO (Y) (UA) - EUR31,85 (EUR11,85 + EUR20 fee. Ticketed in Sep 2017; one way)
TXL-IST-SIN/ BKK-ZUR-TXL (J) (TK/SQ/TG/LX) 231.74 + 20 fee
EWR-PDX (Y) (UA) - EURO 31.87
SIN-BKK-CDG (J) TG - 77,08
SIN-CDG (Y) SQ - 41,45
SIN-FRA-CDG (Y) LH - 252,39
SIN-IST (J) SQ - 41,53
SIN-IST (J) TK - 176,89
YUL-ZRH (J) - 360,72
----------------2018------------------
BKK-ARN-TLL (J) TG,SK - 92 (flights in 2019) online booking
BLZ-ADD-GRU (J) ET - 29.54 online
GRU-ZHR-LCY (J) LX- 30 online
YUL-LYS-VIE / VIE-GVA-YUL (J); 197 online (AC/OS)
HKG-IST-HEL (Y one-way on TK; flights in 2019) - 40,000miles plus EUR81.33, online booking (post #1635)
SIN-SFO (J) SQ - 43.6 online booking
----------------2019------------------
CPH-LIS-GIG (J) TP (46.5) online
BKK-PVG (J) TG - 64.67 online
LAX-ARN-HEL (J) SK - 12.50 online
CPH-LIS (Y) TP - (36,70) online
LAX-HND-LHR (F) NH - (151) online (flight in Apr2020)
HKG-TPE (J) BR (53.28) online (redemption in Aug 2019)
EZE-GRU (J) ET 61.60 online
EZE-GRU (J) TK 61.60 online
VIE-BKK-TPE-SFO (J) BR - 240.00 (YQ) + 60.99 (Taxes etc.) online (flight in summer 2020)
LAX-HND-LHR (F) NH - 135.82 (YQ) + 15.97 (Taxes etc.) online (flight in fall 2020)
LHR-HND-LAX (F) NH Round-Trip + 569.23 online pre-devaluation
AC CDG-YYZ-YYJ Euro 98.85 (Eco, 35k miles, oneway, booked Oct 2021, inlcudes Euro 36.- YQ)
SQ+TK REP-SIN-IST-NCE Euro 98.46 (Eco, 60k miles, oneway, booked Feb 2022 - inlcudes Euro 61.31 YR)
SQ+TK REP-SIN-IST-NCE Euro 102.18 (Eco, 60k miles, oneway, booked March 2022 - includes Euro 63.36 YR plus another 0.44 YR)
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Please report your Star Alliance award redemption experiences

Old Nov 18, 11, 8:15 pm
  #61  
 
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Originally Posted by killuminati
Ooh that's pretty bad. Have you made any redemptions yet? What was your itin/yq?
I just made a redemption yesterday by calling aegean, be sure to connect the Reservation dept. rather than the Miles&Bonus dept.! I redeemed a RT within Far East in C. when I talk to the M&B staff, they are really unhelpful and really poor English... And they keep telling me that they don't see any seats(in my case, with all Asiana flights) which I can actually see on the ANA website. so I tried calling several times and it seems that only the same 2 guys working that day, then I called the general reservation center and there was no problem at all! A lady with pretty good English helped me redeem the ticket and also no prob. with finding all the seats. A3 uses the Amadeus system so you can check your itin. on "checkmytrip" site easily and promptly, with all the information including the ref. code for each segment with each carrier. My itin. is PEK-ICN-HAN/ SGN-BKK-CTU. with OZ TK and TG. A3 does charge YQ and the YQ is depending on the carriers. OZ charges less than most of the SA carriers in my opinion and TG,SQ,LH charges alot! anyway you can check the YQ in your case on the ITA site. this itin. charges me 42,000 miles and about 155 euros for tax and fees. No stopovers allowed! only one connecting less than 24hrs on each way allowed!
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Old Nov 21, 11, 2:17 am
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Originally Posted by hansetang81
I just made a redemption yesterday by calling aegean, be sure to connect the Reservation dept. rather than the Miles&Bonus dept.! I redeemed a RT within Far East in C. when I talk to the M&B staff, they are really unhelpful and really poor English... And they keep telling me that they don't see any seats(in my case, with all Asiana flights) which I can actually see on the ANA website. so I tried calling several times and it seems that only the same 2 guys working that day, then I called the general reservation center and there was no problem at all! A lady with pretty good English helped me redeem the ticket and also no prob. with finding all the seats. A3 uses the Amadeus system so you can check your itin. on "checkmytrip" site easily and promptly, with all the information including the ref. code for each segment with each carrier. My itin. is PEK-ICN-HAN/ SGN-BKK-CTU. with OZ TK and TG. A3 does charge YQ and the YQ is depending on the carriers. OZ charges less than most of the SA carriers in my opinion and TG,SQ,LH charges alot! anyway you can check the YQ in your case on the ITA site. this itin. charges me 42,000 miles and about 155 euros for tax and fees. No stopovers allowed! only one connecting less than 24hrs on each way allowed!
Thanks for the info!
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Old Nov 21, 11, 7:41 am
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Originally Posted by hansetang81
No stopovers allowed! only one connecting less than 24hrs on each way allowed!
Thanks for posting! So do you mean in each direction of the RT redemption, you are only allowed a maximum of 2 flights?? Is this for all redemptions or just intra asia
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Old Nov 21, 11, 8:28 am
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Originally Posted by killuminati
Thanks for posting! So do you mean in each direction of the RT redemption, you are only allowed a maximum of 2 flights?? Is this for all redemptions or just intra asia
It is each way. I got this waived when flying from PVD-BUR, because it was impossible to do it with only 1 connection. However, when there is a 1 connection itinerary available (with or without award space available), you must have a max of 1 connection. I assume this is because A3 pays airlines per segment on awards?
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Old Nov 21, 11, 8:48 am
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Originally Posted by PVDtoDEL
It is each way. I got this waived when flying from PVD-BUR, because it was impossible to do it with only 1 connection. However, when there is a 1 connection itinerary available (with or without award space available), you must have a max of 1 connection. I assume this is because A3 pays airlines per segment on awards?
Wow those are pretty stringent restrictions. Do you know about F redemptions? As in, if there is a 1 connection itinerary in J/Y but it requires 2 connections for F.
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Old Nov 21, 11, 9:01 am
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Originally Posted by killuminati
Wow those are pretty stringent restrictions. Do you know about F redemptions? As in, if there is a 1 connection itinerary in J/Y but it requires 2 connections for F.
Nope, not a clue.

Once we get our forum up and running, I'll try to get a petition up demanding reasonable redemption rules similar to other airlines in the alliance...

Hopefully they will listen - they've been responsive in the past.
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Old Nov 21, 11, 8:51 pm
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Originally Posted by killuminati
Thanks for posting! So do you mean in each direction of the RT redemption, you are only allowed a maximum of 2 flights?? Is this for all redemptions or just intra asia
I think the agent can see all the possible routings when you give him/her the startpoint and the destination. so the only exception you can have two or more stops is that the minimal connection is more than one.
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Old Nov 25, 11, 5:28 pm
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Originally Posted by hansetang81
I just made a redemption yesterday by calling aegean, be sure to connect the Reservation dept. rather than the Miles&Bonus dept.! .... so I tried calling several times and it seems that only the same 2 guys working that day, then I called the general reservation center and there was no problem at all!
Thanks for posting! Great to know that the reservations number reaches people who know how to make mileage redemption bookings.
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Old Nov 25, 11, 6:11 pm
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It is one connection in all classes according to A3 website
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Old Nov 26, 11, 9:26 pm
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If you book a business class TATL award, for example using LH flights, will the domestic USA connections on CO/UA be in FC or coach? I assume the same answer would apply to TPAC awards using for instance SQ or ANA with UA/CO USA domestic connections on two class aircraft offering only FC and coach.
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Old Nov 27, 11, 1:30 am
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Depends on booking class- so for CO, business = domestic F
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Old Nov 27, 11, 3:24 am
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Are you able to provide some experiential backup for this statement?

United and US Airways domestic inventory in First typically books in to O class; on CO, they book in to I class. Accordingly, it should be automatic for the domestic leg of a C class TATL to book in to domestic First on CO.

However, on other programmes - bmi for example - they will attempt to charge you F miles if you want an O class segment on UA or US.
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Old Nov 27, 11, 1:44 pm
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Originally Posted by GoldCircle
However, on other programmes - bmi for example - they will attempt to charge you F miles if you want an O class segment on UA or US.
This is the case with almost all the non-US FF programs so I expect A3 will be the same, not allowing O class (F on US/UA) as part of an I class (business) redemption. So either we will need to accept economy for the domestic portion or we will need to pay more miles or we will need to find I class options. CO and AC use I class on all N America routes and UA does on 3 class routes like PS. UA has also been known to load I class in addition to O class on some 2 class planes on routes with a lot of international connections such as SEA-ORD; if it shows available in I class (business class award inventory) then I would expect A3 can book if for you as part of a business class international redemption.

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Old Nov 27, 11, 4:25 pm
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I'm pretty sure domestic first class in UA now books into I instead of O (and now with the CO flight numbers going away in the next couple of days)- leaving US and CA as the only two two-cabin products domestically that still book into O.
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Old Nov 27, 11, 4:41 pm
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Originally Posted by belfordrocks
I'm pretty sure domestic first class in UA now books into I instead of O (and now with the CO flight numbers going away in the next couple of days)- leaving US and CA as the only two two-cabin products domestically that still book into O.
UA and US still books into O. AC and CO book into I.
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