Mar 2, 2016, 12:16 pm
Last edit by: sokolov
No YQ airlines/routes/countries
NZ, CM, AV, O6, NH, SQ, ET
UA:
All flights except from U.S to: ICN
AC:
Within North America
TPAC flights originated from Canada to:
Japan(NRT,HND,KIX), Australia(SYD,BNE)
For TPAC arriving to Canada:
YQ-free countries/cities (see below)
ex-Australia flights (SYD, BNE)
All TATL flights
List of YQ-free cities/countries:
Hong Kong (depart only)
Brazil (depart only)
Philippines (depart only)
Thailand (depart only)
South Korea (depart only)
For Japan:
Departing flights base on J class direct fights from NRT
Example: NRT-ZRH on LX, NRT-FRA on LH
No YQ: UA, AC, AI, NZ, ET, LO, ZH
Less then 20 Euros YQ: LH, SK, CA, OZ, BR, SQ, LX, TK
Greater than 20 Euros YQ: TG (94 Euros)
NH has less than 20 Euros YQ for most of it's destination
Arriving flights base on J class direct fights to NRT
Example: ZRH- NRT on LX, FRA-NRT on LH
No YQ: UA, AC, TG, NZ, OZ
Less than 20 Euros YQ: BR (14 Euros)
20 - 100 Euros YQ: SQ (20 Euros SIN-NRT, 26 Euros LAX-NRT), ET(95 Euros), CA (41 Euros), ZH (40 Euros)
Greater than 100 Euros: LH (246 Euros), AI (185 Euros), LO (177 Euros), SK (135 Euros), LX(262 Euros), TK (130 Euros)
Again, NH has less than 20 Euros YQ for flights arriving to NRT.
YQ + Fee for award flights, feel free to add more on the list (at the end of it) if you have made a recent redemption.
TK SFO-IST-TLV 237,90 Euro
LH SFO-FRA-TLV 376,76 Euro
UA&LH SFO-FRA(UA)-TLV(LH) 104,77 Euro
SIN-FRA (SQ) Y - 181,75 Euro
SIN-DEL(AI)-FRA(LH) J - 257,15 Euro
HKG-PEK-FRA (CA) J - 149,72 Euro
TPE-IST-FRA (TK) Y - 149,75 Euro
TPE-PEK-FRA (CA) J - 149,43 Euro
YYZ-SFO(AC)-TPE (UA) Y - 159,28 Euro
YYZ-PVG(AC)-TPE (BR) Y - 191,24 Euro
YYZ-PVG(AC)-TPE (BR) J - 227,41 Euro
FRA-YUL (AC) Y - 104,00 Euro
FRA-LHR(LH)-YUL (AC) Y - 182,00 Euro
FRA-YYZ-YUL (AC) Y - 142,99 Euro
FRA-LHR(LH)-YUL(AC) J - 187,00 Euro
BKK-HND (TG) Y - 111 Euros
CDG-PEK (CA) Y- 207,88 EUROS
CDG-PEK (CA) J - 298,44 EUROS
CDG-FRA-PEK (LH) Y - 209,13 EUROS
CDG-ICN-PEK (OZ) Y - 264,52 EUROS
CDG-ICN-PEK (OZ) J - 305,04 EUROS
CDG-TPE (BR) Y - 164,31 EUROS
CDG-TPE (BR) J - 204,90 EUROS
CDG-PVG-TPE (CA) Y - 189,99 EUROS
CDG-ICN(OZ)-TPE(TG) - 301,70 EUROS
FRA-MUC-YUL J (LH) - 355,90 Euros
FRA-CDG(LH)-YUL(AC) J - 170.00 Euros
AC Y: 188,37 Euro YYZ-PEK
AC J: 238,77 Euro YYZ-PEK
UA Y: 79,74 Euro YYZ-ORD-PEK
ATH-CAI-AUH (MS) Y - 148,07 EUROS
AKL-SIN (NZ) Y - 41,03 Euros
ORD-NRT (NH) Y,J,C - 44,17 Euros
ORD-NRT (UA) Y,J,C - 41,42 Euros
JFK - SIN- MEL (SQ) Y -789,00 Euros
ZRH - HKG (Y) LX - 260,06 EUR
ZRH-FRA-HKG (Y) LH - 281,33 EUR
NRT-ORD (Y) NH - 73,43 EUR
MNL-BKK-SIN (J) (TG) - 31,40 Euros
BKK-MNL (TG) (Y)- 84,76 Euros
MNL-SIN (SQ) (J) - 30,46 Euros
---2016----
HKG-FRA-BUD (LH) C - 114.24 Euros (all cost; one-way; as of 2016-Mar)
BKK-NRT (TG) J - 131.79 Euros
MIA-VIE-FRA (OS) C - 458.76 Euro*
* date change with same airline and route = 20 eur/pp
change route = 40 eur/pp (cancel and rebook)
same date but change to other airline = 40 eur/pp (cancel and rebook)
ARN-FRA-LAX (LH) C/F - 296.26 Euro (OW 276.26 YQ + 20 fee per person; booked in 2015)
YYC-DEN (UA) Y 101 euros with 20 booking fee
LIS-IST-GYD (TK) (J) 22k + 160€ taxes one way [of these YR=98€] [taxes were the same for LH+TP]
MNL-ADD-MXP (ET) (Y) - 11,47€
MUC-CDG(LH)-TPE(BR) (J) - 210,05 Euro
MUC-LHR(LH)-TPE(BR) (J) - 249,80 Euro
MUC-HKG(LH)-TPE(BR) (J) - 334,08 Euro
MUC-IST(TK)-TPE(BR) (J) - 162,26 Euro
KIX-SIN-DPS J (SQ) - 95,23 Euro
NRT-SIN-DPS J (NH,SQ) - 93,45 Euro
YYZ-FRA-JNB Y (AC, SA) - 208,85 Euro
YYZ-FRA-JNB J (LH, SA) - 583,31 Euro
YUL-LAX-AKL J (AC, NZ) - 105,27 Euro
ICN-SIN-DPS Y (SQ) - 175,89 Euro
ICN-SIN-DPS J (SQ) - 200,08 Euro
YYZ-NRT Y (AC) - 57,21 Euros
PEK-YVR Y (AC) - 164,84 Euros
PEK-NRT-YVR Y, J (NH) - 181,26 Euros
DEL-YYZ - Y (AC) - 386,76 Euros
BNE-YVR - Y (AC) - 75,61 Euros
LCA-VIE-BKK-VIE-LCA J (OS) €580
YYZ-PVG - Y (AC) 182,83 Euros
YYZ-ORD-PVG - Y (UA) - 76,54 Euros
YVR-SFO-ICN - Y (UA) - 139,96 Euros
YVR-ICN - Y (AC) - 120,09 Euros
PVG-YYZ - Y (AC) 175,49 Euros
PVG-ORD-YYZ - Y (UA) - 51,45 Euros
CDG-MUC-HND - J (LH,NH) - 116,62 Euros
CDG-HND - J (NH) - 115,43 Euros
CMN-FRA-CDG - J (LH) - 189,00 Euros
ATH-FRA-RAK - Y (LH) - 161,16 Euros
ATH-FRA-RAK - J (LH) - 167,16 Euros
CDG-TPE-HKG - Y (BR) - 133,09 Euros
TPE-ICN - Y (OZ) - 46,00 Euros
YUL-ZRH-GVA - Y (LX) - 269,34 Euros
CDG-FRA-HND - J (LH,NH) - 160,65 Euros
CDG-MUC-HND - J (LH,NH) - 157,90 Euros
YUL-MUC-BKK - Y (LH,TG) - 344,40 Euros
YUL-IST-BKK - Y, J (TK) - 280,30 Euros
ADD-LAX - Y (ET) - 248,87 Euros
ADD-LHR-LAX - Y (ET, UA) - 169,36 Euros
ADD-IST-LAX - J (TK) - 291,38 Euros
TPE-IST-CDG - J (TK) - 218,91 Euros
TPE-SIN-CDG - Y (SQ) - 273,08 Euros
ICN-TPE-VIE - J (OZ,BR) - 52,94 Euros(total cost,flights in April 2017)
FRA-CPH - Y (LH) - 97,09€
YYZ-LGA//JFK-JNB (Y) (AC,SA) - 288,62 Euros
YYZ-LGA//JFK-JNB (J) (AC,SA) - 332,00 Euros
YYZ-ADD-JNB (Y) (ET) - 302,79 Euros
YYZ-LHR-JNB (Y) (AC,SA) - 200,36 Euros
YYZ-LHR-JNB (J) (AC,SA) - 273,58 Euros
NRT-PEK-ADD (Y,J) (NH,ET) - 156,96 Euros
NRT-PVG-ADD (Y) (NH, ET) - 156,96 Euros
YYZ-LIM (Y) (AC) - 141,99 Euros
YYZ-SAL-LIM , Y (AV) - 72,03 Euros
YYZ-TPE-HKG (Y,J) (BR) - 78,89 Euros
YYZ-ORD-HKG (Y) (UA) - 99,61 Euros
YYZ-EWR-HKG (Y) (UA)- 99,61 Euros
ORD-CDG (Y) (UA) - 25,27 Euros
ORD-FRA-CDG (LH) - 373,00 Euros
GVA-FRA-LAX and return JFK-GVA (LH, LX) - 487,96 Euros
----------------2017------------------
GRU-FRA-TLL (F,J) (LH) - 103,60 Euros
YYZ-SFO (J) (AC) - 64,55 Euros
YVR-HKG (Y) (AC) - 83,46 Euros
HKG-ICN-OKA (Y) (OZ) - 54,47 Euros
CPH-PVG-AKL (J) (SK/NZ) - ~200€
TXL-FRA-BKK-FRA-TXL (J) (LH/TG/TG/LH) - 252 Euros
SIN-HND (J) (SQ) - 42,88 Euros
ZRH-BKK-MEL (J) (TG) - €49.22
GVA-ZRH-YUL (J,Y) (LX) - 256,44€
HKG-ICN (Y) (OZ) - €25.54
SIN-CPH (Y) (SQ) - 103,31€
SIN-LHR-CPH (Y) (SQ,SK) - 103,31€
FRA-CAI-SSH (C) (MS) - 177 EUR
FRA-IST-SSH (C) (TK) - 197 EUR
YYZ-DUB (J) (AC) - EUR68.11 (EUR48.11+EUR20 fee)
HKG-IST-GOT (J) (TK) - EUR110.71 (EUR90.71 + EUR20 fee; ticketed in Aug 2017; one-way)
SFO-TUS (Y) (UA) - EUR32,11 (EUR12,11 + EUR20 fee. Ticketed in Sep 2017; one way)
TUS-SFO (Y) (UA) - EUR31,85 (EUR11,85 + EUR20 fee. Ticketed in Sep 2017; one way)
TXL-IST-SIN/ BKK-ZUR-TXL (J) (TK/SQ/TG/LX) €231.74 + €20 fee
EWR-PDX (Y) (UA) - EURO 31.87
SIN-BKK-CDG (J) TG - 77,08 €
SIN-CDG (Y) SQ - 41,45€
SIN-FRA-CDG (Y) LH - 252,39€
SIN-IST (J) SQ - 41,53€
SIN-IST (J) TK - 176,89€
YUL-ZRH (J) - 360,72€
----------------2018------------------
BKK-ARN-TLL (J) TG,SK - 92€ (flights in 2019) online booking
BLZ-ADD-GRU (J) ET - 29.54€ online
GRU-ZHR-LCY (J) LX- 30Ł online
YUL-LYS-VIE / VIE-GVA-YUL (J); 197€ online (AC/OS)
HKG-IST-HEL (Y one-way on TK; flights in 2019) - 40,000miles plus EUR81.33, online booking (post #1635)
SIN-SFO (J) SQ - €43.6 online booking
----------------2019------------------
CPH-LIS-GIG (J) TP (€46.5) online
BKK-PVG (J) TG - 64.67€ online
LAX-ARN-HEL (J) SK - €12.50 online
CPH-LIS (Y) TP - (€36,70) online
LAX-HND-LHR (F) NH - (€151) online (flight in Apr2020)
HKG-TPE (J) BR (€53.28) online (redemption in Aug 2019)
EZE-GRU (J) ET 61.60€ online
EZE-GRU (J) TK 61.60€ online
VIE-BKK-TPE-SFO (J) BR - 240.00€ (YQ) + 60.99€ (Taxes etc.) online (flight in summer 2020)
NZ, CM, AV, O6, NH, SQ, ET
UA:
All flights except from U.S to: ICN
AC:
Within North America
TPAC flights originated from Canada to:
Japan(NRT,HND,KIX), Australia(SYD,BNE)
For TPAC arriving to Canada:
YQ-free countries/cities (see below)
ex-Australia flights (SYD, BNE)
All TATL flights
List of YQ-free cities/countries:
Hong Kong (depart only)
Brazil (depart only)
Philippines (depart only)
Thailand (depart only)
South Korea (depart only)
For Japan:
Departing flights base on J class direct fights from NRT
Example: NRT-ZRH on LX, NRT-FRA on LH
No YQ: UA, AC, AI, NZ, ET, LO, ZH
Less then 20 Euros YQ: LH, SK, CA, OZ, BR, SQ, LX, TK
Greater than 20 Euros YQ: TG (94 Euros)
NH has less than 20 Euros YQ for most of it's destination
Arriving flights base on J class direct fights to NRT
Example: ZRH- NRT on LX, FRA-NRT on LH
No YQ: UA, AC, TG, NZ, OZ
Less than 20 Euros YQ: BR (14 Euros)
20 - 100 Euros YQ: SQ (20 Euros SIN-NRT, 26 Euros LAX-NRT), ET(95 Euros), CA (41 Euros), ZH (40 Euros)
Greater than 100 Euros: LH (246 Euros), AI (185 Euros), LO (177 Euros), SK (135 Euros), LX(262 Euros), TK (130 Euros)
Again, NH has less than 20 Euros YQ for flights arriving to NRT.
YQ + Fee for award flights, feel free to add more on the list (at the end of it) if you have made a recent redemption.
TK SFO-IST-TLV 237,90 Euro
LH SFO-FRA-TLV 376,76 Euro
UA&LH SFO-FRA(UA)-TLV(LH) 104,77 Euro
SIN-FRA (SQ) Y - 181,75 Euro
SIN-DEL(AI)-FRA(LH) J - 257,15 Euro
HKG-PEK-FRA (CA) J - 149,72 Euro
TPE-IST-FRA (TK) Y - 149,75 Euro
TPE-PEK-FRA (CA) J - 149,43 Euro
YYZ-SFO(AC)-TPE (UA) Y - 159,28 Euro
YYZ-PVG(AC)-TPE (BR) Y - 191,24 Euro
YYZ-PVG(AC)-TPE (BR) J - 227,41 Euro
FRA-YUL (AC) Y - 104,00 Euro
FRA-LHR(LH)-YUL (AC) Y - 182,00 Euro
FRA-YYZ-YUL (AC) Y - 142,99 Euro
FRA-LHR(LH)-YUL(AC) J - 187,00 Euro
BKK-HND (TG) Y - 111 Euros
CDG-PEK (CA) Y- 207,88 EUROS
CDG-PEK (CA) J - 298,44 EUROS
CDG-FRA-PEK (LH) Y - 209,13 EUROS
CDG-ICN-PEK (OZ) Y - 264,52 EUROS
CDG-ICN-PEK (OZ) J - 305,04 EUROS
CDG-TPE (BR) Y - 164,31 EUROS
CDG-TPE (BR) J - 204,90 EUROS
CDG-PVG-TPE (CA) Y - 189,99 EUROS
CDG-ICN(OZ)-TPE(TG) - 301,70 EUROS
FRA-MUC-YUL J (LH) - 355,90 Euros
FRA-CDG(LH)-YUL(AC) J - 170.00 Euros
AC Y: 188,37 Euro YYZ-PEK
AC J: 238,77 Euro YYZ-PEK
UA Y: 79,74 Euro YYZ-ORD-PEK
ATH-CAI-AUH (MS) Y - 148,07 EUROS
AKL-SIN (NZ) Y - 41,03 Euros
ORD-NRT (NH) Y,J,C - 44,17 Euros
ORD-NRT (UA) Y,J,C - 41,42 Euros
JFK - SIN- MEL (SQ) Y -789,00 Euros
ZRH - HKG (Y) LX - 260,06 EUR
ZRH-FRA-HKG (Y) LH - 281,33 EUR
NRT-ORD (Y) NH - 73,43 EUR
MNL-BKK-SIN (J) (TG) - 31,40 Euros
BKK-MNL (TG) (Y)- 84,76 Euros
MNL-SIN (SQ) (J) - 30,46 Euros
---2016----
HKG-FRA-BUD (LH) C - 114.24 Euros (all cost; one-way; as of 2016-Mar)
BKK-NRT (TG) J - 131.79 Euros
MIA-VIE-FRA (OS) C - 458.76 Euro*
* date change with same airline and route = 20 eur/pp
change route = 40 eur/pp (cancel and rebook)
same date but change to other airline = 40 eur/pp (cancel and rebook)
ARN-FRA-LAX (LH) C/F - 296.26 Euro (OW 276.26 YQ + 20 fee per person; booked in 2015)
YYC-DEN (UA) Y 101 euros with 20 booking fee
LIS-IST-GYD (TK) (J) 22k + 160€ taxes one way [of these YR=98€] [taxes were the same for LH+TP]
MNL-ADD-MXP (ET) (Y) - 11,47€
MUC-CDG(LH)-TPE(BR) (J) - 210,05 Euro
MUC-LHR(LH)-TPE(BR) (J) - 249,80 Euro
MUC-HKG(LH)-TPE(BR) (J) - 334,08 Euro
MUC-IST(TK)-TPE(BR) (J) - 162,26 Euro
KIX-SIN-DPS J (SQ) - 95,23 Euro
NRT-SIN-DPS J (NH,SQ) - 93,45 Euro
YYZ-FRA-JNB Y (AC, SA) - 208,85 Euro
YYZ-FRA-JNB J (LH, SA) - 583,31 Euro
YUL-LAX-AKL J (AC, NZ) - 105,27 Euro
ICN-SIN-DPS Y (SQ) - 175,89 Euro
ICN-SIN-DPS J (SQ) - 200,08 Euro
YYZ-NRT Y (AC) - 57,21 Euros
PEK-YVR Y (AC) - 164,84 Euros
PEK-NRT-YVR Y, J (NH) - 181,26 Euros
DEL-YYZ - Y (AC) - 386,76 Euros
BNE-YVR - Y (AC) - 75,61 Euros
LCA-VIE-BKK-VIE-LCA J (OS) €580
YYZ-PVG - Y (AC) 182,83 Euros
YYZ-ORD-PVG - Y (UA) - 76,54 Euros
YVR-SFO-ICN - Y (UA) - 139,96 Euros
YVR-ICN - Y (AC) - 120,09 Euros
PVG-YYZ - Y (AC) 175,49 Euros
PVG-ORD-YYZ - Y (UA) - 51,45 Euros
CDG-MUC-HND - J (LH,NH) - 116,62 Euros
CDG-HND - J (NH) - 115,43 Euros
CMN-FRA-CDG - J (LH) - 189,00 Euros
ATH-FRA-RAK - Y (LH) - 161,16 Euros
ATH-FRA-RAK - J (LH) - 167,16 Euros
CDG-TPE-HKG - Y (BR) - 133,09 Euros
TPE-ICN - Y (OZ) - 46,00 Euros
YUL-ZRH-GVA - Y (LX) - 269,34 Euros
CDG-FRA-HND - J (LH,NH) - 160,65 Euros
CDG-MUC-HND - J (LH,NH) - 157,90 Euros
YUL-MUC-BKK - Y (LH,TG) - 344,40 Euros
YUL-IST-BKK - Y, J (TK) - 280,30 Euros
ADD-LAX - Y (ET) - 248,87 Euros
ADD-LHR-LAX - Y (ET, UA) - 169,36 Euros
ADD-IST-LAX - J (TK) - 291,38 Euros
TPE-IST-CDG - J (TK) - 218,91 Euros
TPE-SIN-CDG - Y (SQ) - 273,08 Euros
ICN-TPE-VIE - J (OZ,BR) - 52,94 Euros(total cost,flights in April 2017)
FRA-CPH - Y (LH) - 97,09€
YYZ-LGA//JFK-JNB (Y) (AC,SA) - 288,62 Euros
YYZ-LGA//JFK-JNB (J) (AC,SA) - 332,00 Euros
YYZ-ADD-JNB (Y) (ET) - 302,79 Euros
YYZ-LHR-JNB (Y) (AC,SA) - 200,36 Euros
YYZ-LHR-JNB (J) (AC,SA) - 273,58 Euros
NRT-PEK-ADD (Y,J) (NH,ET) - 156,96 Euros
NRT-PVG-ADD (Y) (NH, ET) - 156,96 Euros
YYZ-LIM (Y) (AC) - 141,99 Euros
YYZ-SAL-LIM , Y (AV) - 72,03 Euros
YYZ-TPE-HKG (Y,J) (BR) - 78,89 Euros
YYZ-ORD-HKG (Y) (UA) - 99,61 Euros
YYZ-EWR-HKG (Y) (UA)- 99,61 Euros
ORD-CDG (Y) (UA) - 25,27 Euros
ORD-FRA-CDG (LH) - 373,00 Euros
GVA-FRA-LAX and return JFK-GVA (LH, LX) - 487,96 Euros
----------------2017------------------
GRU-FRA-TLL (F,J) (LH) - 103,60 Euros
YYZ-SFO (J) (AC) - 64,55 Euros
YVR-HKG (Y) (AC) - 83,46 Euros
HKG-ICN-OKA (Y) (OZ) - 54,47 Euros
CPH-PVG-AKL (J) (SK/NZ) - ~200€
TXL-FRA-BKK-FRA-TXL (J) (LH/TG/TG/LH) - 252 Euros
SIN-HND (J) (SQ) - 42,88 Euros
ZRH-BKK-MEL (J) (TG) - €49.22
GVA-ZRH-YUL (J,Y) (LX) - 256,44€
HKG-ICN (Y) (OZ) - €25.54
SIN-CPH (Y) (SQ) - 103,31€
SIN-LHR-CPH (Y) (SQ,SK) - 103,31€
FRA-CAI-SSH (C) (MS) - 177 EUR
FRA-IST-SSH (C) (TK) - 197 EUR
YYZ-DUB (J) (AC) - EUR68.11 (EUR48.11+EUR20 fee)
HKG-IST-GOT (J) (TK) - EUR110.71 (EUR90.71 + EUR20 fee; ticketed in Aug 2017; one-way)
SFO-TUS (Y) (UA) - EUR32,11 (EUR12,11 + EUR20 fee. Ticketed in Sep 2017; one way)
TUS-SFO (Y) (UA) - EUR31,85 (EUR11,85 + EUR20 fee. Ticketed in Sep 2017; one way)
TXL-IST-SIN/ BKK-ZUR-TXL (J) (TK/SQ/TG/LX) €231.74 + €20 fee
EWR-PDX (Y) (UA) - EURO 31.87
SIN-BKK-CDG (J) TG - 77,08 €
SIN-CDG (Y) SQ - 41,45€
SIN-FRA-CDG (Y) LH - 252,39€
SIN-IST (J) SQ - 41,53€
SIN-IST (J) TK - 176,89€
YUL-ZRH (J) - 360,72€
----------------2018------------------
BKK-ARN-TLL (J) TG,SK - 92€ (flights in 2019) online booking
BLZ-ADD-GRU (J) ET - 29.54€ online
GRU-ZHR-LCY (J) LX- 30Ł online
YUL-LYS-VIE / VIE-GVA-YUL (J); 197€ online (AC/OS)
HKG-IST-HEL (Y one-way on TK; flights in 2019) - 40,000miles plus EUR81.33, online booking (post #1635)
SIN-SFO (J) SQ - €43.6 online booking
----------------2019------------------
CPH-LIS-GIG (J) TP (€46.5) online
BKK-PVG (J) TG - 64.67€ online
LAX-ARN-HEL (J) SK - €12.50 online
CPH-LIS (Y) TP - (€36,70) online
LAX-HND-LHR (F) NH - (€151) online (flight in Apr2020)
HKG-TPE (J) BR (€53.28) online (redemption in Aug 2019)
EZE-GRU (J) ET 61.60€ online
EZE-GRU (J) TK 61.60€ online
VIE-BKK-TPE-SFO (J) BR - 240.00€ (YQ) + 60.99€ (Taxes etc.) online (flight in summer 2020)
LAX-HND-LHR (F) NH - 135.82€ (YQ) + 15.97€ (Taxes etc.) online (flight in fall 2020)
LHR-HND-LAX (F) NH Round-Trip + 569.23€ online pre-devaluation
AC CDG-YYZ-YYJ Euro 98.85 (Eco, 35k miles, oneway, booked Oct 2021, inlcudes Euro 36.- YQ)
SQ+TK REP-SIN-IST-NCE Euro 98.46 (Eco, 60k miles, oneway, booked Feb 2022 - inlcudes Euro 61.31 YR)
SQ+TK REP-SIN-IST-NCE Euro 102.18 (Eco, 60k miles, oneway, booked March 2022 - includes Euro 63.36 YR plus another 0.44 YR)
AC CDG-YYZ-YYJ Euro 98.85 (Eco, 35k miles, oneway, booked Oct 2021, inlcudes Euro 36.- YQ)
SQ+TK REP-SIN-IST-NCE Euro 98.46 (Eco, 60k miles, oneway, booked Feb 2022 - inlcudes Euro 61.31 YR)
SQ+TK REP-SIN-IST-NCE Euro 102.18 (Eco, 60k miles, oneway, booked March 2022 - includes Euro 63.36 YR plus another 0.44 YR)
Please report your Star Alliance award redemption experiences
May 26, 2014, 1:58 am
#301
Join Date: May 2009
Location: YUL via ARN, PVG, ICN & YOW
Posts: 75
My experience is that A3 charges all the taxes and fees (everything except the fare) for redemptions, according to the highest booking class, e.g., F or Y. For SK, the highest economy (Go) booking class is M, while Y is Plus.
What I used to guesstimate the award fees is look up the flights I want on ITA and specify the booking class. E.g., in your example, the routing field would contain "SK / f bc=M" for the first leg, and "SK CPH SK / f bc=M" for the second leg, to force ITA to only show SK legs in booking class M. From the alternatives, I selected the flights operated by SK and got the following quote:
Without the airfare, it sums up to around 181€. On top of this, A3 charges a 20€ booking fee, so to me it sounds like the first and last agent got it right (201€). Maybe the third agent was looking at a direct return, some other flights, or SK flights operated by LH?
From some quick googling, it looks to me like Aeroplan doesn't charge any fuel surcharge for awards on SK flights, which is probably why you get a cheaper price than with A3 in this case.
What I used to guesstimate the award fees is look up the flights I want on ITA and specify the booking class. E.g., in your example, the routing field would contain "SK / f bc=M" for the first leg, and "SK CPH SK / f bc=M" for the second leg, to force ITA to only show SK legs in booking class M. From the alternatives, I selected the flights operated by SK and got the following quote:
Code:
Fare 1: Carrier SK MSERTM STO to FRA (rules) €325.78 Passenger type ADT, round trip fare, booking code M Covers ARN-FRA (Economy) Fare 2: Carrier SK MSERTM FRA to STO (rules) €325.78 Passenger type ADT, round trip fare, booking code M Covers FRA-CPH (Economy), CPH-ARN (Economy) Swedish Passenger Charge (YA) €17.73 SK YQ surcharge (YQ) €108.68 Danish Passenger Service Charge (ZO) €15.14 German Airport Security Tax (DE) €6.57 German Passenger Service Charge (RA) €25.73 German Air Transport Tax (OY) €7.50 Subtotal per passenger €833.35 Number of passengers x1 Total airfare & taxes €833.35
From some quick googling, it looks to me like Aeroplan doesn't charge any fuel surcharge for awards on SK flights, which is probably why you get a cheaper price than with A3 in this case.
i was aware that SK is one of the carrier for whom AE doesnt charge YQ, and usually do use SK or UA in Scandinavian-North American routings...
but still... A3 redemptions, calculating taxes with this method, almost cost more than market fares depending on airline. I guess I will save my A3 redemptions for inter-NA or TPAC redemptions...
May 27, 2014, 1:15 am
#302
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: ZRH
Programs: A3 Gold, AY Silver
Posts: 458
In general, redemptions in F or C are much better value, or possibly one-way flights in Y on carriers where no discounted one-way fares are available.
May 27, 2014, 1:38 am
#303
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Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Netherlands
Programs: KL Platinum; A3 Gold
Posts: 28,697
Short-haul economy redemptions are, typically, the worst way of using miles on most European Frequent Flyer Programmes. But they certainly have their uses.
The direct comparison against the cheapest advance fare, though, is not a fair one. Your Aegean M&B redemption can be cancelled as late as 30 minutes before the flight with the payment of just a €20 cancellation fee (M&B even allows you to reclaim the miles after an unnotified no-show on payment of a €30 no-show fee). Your cheap bought-months-in-advance ticket is not refundable at all, will cost you even more to change, and has no value whatsoever if you do not use it as booked.
Short-haul economy redemptions should really only be considered when:
a) you need flexibility and the possibility to cancel for a nominal fee
b) you need a one-way ticket on a carrier that doesn't offer cheap one-way tickets
c) the cash fare is already high, but there are award seats available.
The direct comparison against the cheapest advance fare, though, is not a fair one. Your Aegean M&B redemption can be cancelled as late as 30 minutes before the flight with the payment of just a €20 cancellation fee (M&B even allows you to reclaim the miles after an unnotified no-show on payment of a €30 no-show fee). Your cheap bought-months-in-advance ticket is not refundable at all, will cost you even more to change, and has no value whatsoever if you do not use it as booked.
Short-haul economy redemptions should really only be considered when:
a) you need flexibility and the possibility to cancel for a nominal fee
b) you need a one-way ticket on a carrier that doesn't offer cheap one-way tickets
c) the cash fare is already high, but there are award seats available.
May 27, 2014, 6:12 am
#304
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: HKG
Programs: A3 Gold, BA Blue
Posts: 68
Was quoted and booked HKG-TPE-NRT vv for a measly €90.10 on EVA Air at Christmas/New Year - about 1/5 the price of, and far more flexible than, any cash fare I could find. All done in about 10 minutes via the UK number and telling the agent the exact flights I wanted, thanks to having checked Award Nexus and checking possibilities in advance.
I used SkypeOut and while the phone line was appalling at my end, the agent was able to hear me clearly and was very friendly. Received an e-mailed confirmation/itinerary in less than 20 minutes. Excellent experience all around. ^
I used SkypeOut and while the phone line was appalling at my end, the agent was able to hear me clearly and was very friendly. Received an e-mailed confirmation/itinerary in less than 20 minutes. Excellent experience all around. ^
May 29, 2014, 9:09 am
#305
Join Date: Jul 2008
Programs: *A Gold
Posts: 123
Redemption issues
Hi all,
I am trying to book a ticket from a regional airport in Scandinavia to the US (actually almost anywhere in the US). Usually such journeys require two transits (e.g. Frankfurt and Toronto/Philadelphia/Newark etc) depending on where and how. Anyways, the Aegean call center says two transits cannot be booked on a signle PNR under the T&C's of the miles and bonus programme. I read them, and I am not sure I see such clauses. They call it two "stop-overs".
So...
1. Is it correct that m&b does not allow issuance of a single-PNR reward ticket when two transits (=three flights) are involved?
2. Is it correct that if I try to book Scandinavia-USA with two transits (=three flights) then a one-way business class ticket is 66.000 miles (plus fees, but we'll those out of this discussion)?
Many thanks,
Scandi777
I am trying to book a ticket from a regional airport in Scandinavia to the US (actually almost anywhere in the US). Usually such journeys require two transits (e.g. Frankfurt and Toronto/Philadelphia/Newark etc) depending on where and how. Anyways, the Aegean call center says two transits cannot be booked on a signle PNR under the T&C's of the miles and bonus programme. I read them, and I am not sure I see such clauses. They call it two "stop-overs".
So...
1. Is it correct that m&b does not allow issuance of a single-PNR reward ticket when two transits (=three flights) are involved?
2. Is it correct that if I try to book Scandinavia-USA with two transits (=three flights) then a one-way business class ticket is 66.000 miles (plus fees, but we'll those out of this discussion)?
Many thanks,
Scandi777
May 29, 2014, 1:30 pm
#306
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: ZRH/SFO
Programs: A3*G - AZ CFP- HH DIA
Posts: 3,666
1. Yes
2. Yes
You just need to read the remarks of the award chart...
* An award ticket on Star Alliance flights may include one stopover with duration up to 24 hours
2. Yes
You just need to read the remarks of the award chart...
* An award ticket on Star Alliance flights may include one stopover with duration up to 24 hours
Last edited by Air Rarotonga; May 29, 2014 at 1:36 pm
May 29, 2014, 1:39 pm
#307
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: ZRH/SFO
Programs: A3*G - AZ CFP- HH DIA
Posts: 3,666
May 31, 2014, 6:55 am
#308
Join Date: May 2004
Location: SIN (LEJ once a year)
Programs: SQ, LH, BA, IHG Diamond AMB, HH Gold, SLH Indulged, Accor Gold, Hyatt Discoverist
Posts: 7,726
If it is under 24hrs it is not a stopover so poor wording I guess as they should call it a transit instead. That's quite stingy and doesn't make a lot of sense. Even LH M&M allows 3 sectors and 2 transits under 24hrs on a one way. Oh well can't have it all.
Jun 2, 2014, 6:01 am
#309
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: ZRH
Programs: A3 Gold, AY Silver
Posts: 458
Does anyone have experience regarding changing *A award flights?
In the A3 T&Cs:
I have an award booking (one way, two flights with two different *A partners) that I need to change, but I am curious what I am allowed to do and what not. The origin and destination would be the same, so for sure I should be allowed to change to the same flights on different days.
But what about connecting somewhere else? What about different carriers? The award ticket is issued on A3 390 stock, so from that point of view it doesn't seem to be linked to any of the carriers.
In this particular case, the taxes and fees would be lower with another connection+carrier, so I am even considering outright cancelling the original ticket and making a new booking for 20+20e cancellation+booking fee, instead of the 20e change fee.
In the A3 T&Cs:
Members are able to change Ticket’s date and time, up to 30 minutes before flight’s departure time, upon a re-issue fee of 20 Euros per ticket.
But what about connecting somewhere else? What about different carriers? The award ticket is issued on A3 390 stock, so from that point of view it doesn't seem to be linked to any of the carriers.
In this particular case, the taxes and fees would be lower with another connection+carrier, so I am even considering outright cancelling the original ticket and making a new booking for 20+20e cancellation+booking fee, instead of the 20e change fee.
Jun 2, 2014, 6:05 am
#310
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: ZRH
Programs: A3 Gold, AY Silver
Posts: 458
And for money for taxes & fees to get credited back to credit card?
Jun 19, 2014, 4:31 pm
#311
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: YOW
Programs: O6*G, Delta Silver, Air Berlin Silver, Marriott Gold, A|Club Gold, SPG Gold, AMEX Platinum
Posts: 50
Is the 20 Euro booking fee charged per booking or if I book two separate one-way tickets at the same time would I only be charged once?
Jun 21, 2014, 4:39 am
#312
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Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: SE1, London
Posts: 23,418
LHR-ZRH overnight ZRH-CAI in C for 21,000 miles and Euro270 of tax. Not amazing value but as the cheapest Y revenue ticket was north of Euro800 I am pretty happy especially with the A340 from ZRH!
The agent was friendly, very efficient, spoke excellent English and when she popped me on hold to confirm payment also issued the ticket. By the time I had hung up the flight was showing on the Swiss website and Myflights with a ticket number.
Compared to the unlamented BD ICC this was blisteringly efficient!
The agent was friendly, very efficient, spoke excellent English and when she popped me on hold to confirm payment also issued the ticket. By the time I had hung up the flight was showing on the Swiss website and Myflights with a ticket number.
Compared to the unlamented BD ICC this was blisteringly efficient!
Jun 29, 2014, 4:41 pm
#313
Join Date: Jun 2014
Posts: 20
Hi everyone,
I joined A3 M&B last month, and will reach *G by October. I'm debating whether to continue crediting to A3 after October or to return to AP (native). I'd like to stay with A3 for two reasons: (i) I won't fly frequently enough (from next year) to reach *G with AP; and, (ii) I'd like to stay loyal to A3 as a way of thanking them for helping me reach *G easily. But, I'd also like to understand the ease with which I'd be able to redeem with A3. I've a few questions in this regard:
1) Per the A3 website, if I fly YYZ-YVR-YYZ in Y-class, am I correct in understanding that I'd need to shell out 25K miles + applicable YQ?
2) AP differentiates between "short" (15K to redeem) and "long" (25K) haul flights within Canada & Continental USA. Any such distinctions with A3?
2) Am I correct in understanding that I'd need 60K miles to redeem a Y-class RT flight from YYZ to ANY location in Europe? If so, doesn't that seem great, considering AP could require up to 75K miles for the same trip?
3) Why is there a table indicating redemption on US Airways flights? I thought they were leaving *A.
4) Besides the restriction on connections and the fact that YQ is extra, I don't understand the downsides of redeeming with A3 vs. AP. Am I missing something?
Thanks for advising!
I joined A3 M&B last month, and will reach *G by October. I'm debating whether to continue crediting to A3 after October or to return to AP (native). I'd like to stay with A3 for two reasons: (i) I won't fly frequently enough (from next year) to reach *G with AP; and, (ii) I'd like to stay loyal to A3 as a way of thanking them for helping me reach *G easily. But, I'd also like to understand the ease with which I'd be able to redeem with A3. I've a few questions in this regard:
1) Per the A3 website, if I fly YYZ-YVR-YYZ in Y-class, am I correct in understanding that I'd need to shell out 25K miles + applicable YQ?
2) AP differentiates between "short" (15K to redeem) and "long" (25K) haul flights within Canada & Continental USA. Any such distinctions with A3?
2) Am I correct in understanding that I'd need 60K miles to redeem a Y-class RT flight from YYZ to ANY location in Europe? If so, doesn't that seem great, considering AP could require up to 75K miles for the same trip?
3) Why is there a table indicating redemption on US Airways flights? I thought they were leaving *A.
4) Besides the restriction on connections and the fact that YQ is extra, I don't understand the downsides of redeeming with A3 vs. AP. Am I missing something?
Thanks for advising!
Last edited by hamdoc; Jun 29, 2014 at 5:06 pm