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Old Mar 2, 2016, 12:16 pm
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No YQ airlines/routes/countries

NZ, CM, AV, O6, NH, SQ, ET

UA:

All flights except from U.S to: ICN

AC:

Within North America

TPAC flights originated from Canada to:
Japan(NRT,HND,KIX), Australia(SYD,BNE)

For TPAC arriving to Canada:
YQ-free countries/cities (see below)
ex-Australia flights (SYD, BNE)

All TATL flights

List of YQ-free cities/countries:

Hong Kong (depart only)
Brazil (depart only)
Philippines (depart only)
Thailand (depart only)
South Korea (depart only)

For Japan:
Departing flights base on J class direct fights from NRT
Example: NRT-ZRH on LX, NRT-FRA on LH

No YQ: UA, AC, AI, NZ, ET, LO, ZH

Less then 20 Euros YQ: LH, SK, CA, OZ, BR, SQ, LX, TK

Greater than 20 Euros YQ: TG (94 Euros)

NH has less than 20 Euros YQ for most of it's destination

Arriving flights base on J class direct fights to NRT
Example: ZRH- NRT on LX, FRA-NRT on LH

No YQ: UA, AC, TG, NZ, OZ

Less than 20 Euros YQ: BR (14 Euros)

20 - 100 Euros YQ: SQ (20 Euros SIN-NRT, 26 Euros LAX-NRT), ET(95 Euros), CA (41 Euros), ZH (40 Euros)

Greater than 100 Euros: LH (246 Euros), AI (185 Euros), LO (177 Euros), SK (135 Euros), LX(262 Euros), TK (130 Euros)

Again, NH has less than 20 Euros YQ for flights arriving to NRT.


YQ + Fee for award flights, feel free to add more on the list (at the end of it) if you have made a recent redemption.

TK SFO-IST-TLV 237,90 Euro
LH SFO-FRA-TLV 376,76 Euro
UA&LH SFO-FRA(UA)-TLV(LH) 104,77 Euro
SIN-FRA (SQ) Y - 181,75 Euro
SIN-DEL(AI)-FRA(LH) J - 257,15 Euro
HKG-PEK-FRA (CA) J - 149,72 Euro
TPE-IST-FRA (TK) Y - 149,75 Euro
TPE-PEK-FRA (CA) J - 149,43 Euro
YYZ-SFO(AC)-TPE (UA) Y - 159,28 Euro
YYZ-PVG(AC)-TPE (BR) Y - 191,24 Euro
YYZ-PVG(AC)-TPE (BR) J - 227,41 Euro
FRA-YUL (AC) Y - 104,00 Euro
FRA-LHR(LH)-YUL (AC) Y - 182,00 Euro
FRA-YYZ-YUL (AC) Y - 142,99 Euro
FRA-LHR(LH)-YUL(AC) J - 187,00 Euro
BKK-HND (TG) Y - 111 Euros
CDG-PEK (CA) Y- 207,88 EUROS
CDG-PEK (CA) J - 298,44 EUROS
CDG-FRA-PEK (LH) Y - 209,13 EUROS
CDG-ICN-PEK (OZ) Y - 264,52 EUROS
CDG-ICN-PEK (OZ) J - 305,04 EUROS
CDG-TPE (BR) Y - 164,31 EUROS
CDG-TPE (BR) J - 204,90 EUROS
CDG-PVG-TPE (CA) Y - 189,99 EUROS
CDG-ICN(OZ)-TPE(TG) - 301,70 EUROS
FRA-MUC-YUL J (LH) - 355,90 Euros
FRA-CDG(LH)-YUL(AC) J - 170.00 Euros
AC Y: 188,37 Euro YYZ-PEK
AC J: 238,77 Euro YYZ-PEK
UA Y: 79,74 Euro YYZ-ORD-PEK
ATH-CAI-AUH (MS) Y - 148,07 EUROS
AKL-SIN (NZ) Y - 41,03 Euros
ORD-NRT (NH) Y,J,C - 44,17 Euros
ORD-NRT (UA) Y,J,C - 41,42 Euros
JFK - SIN- MEL (SQ) Y -789,00 Euros
ZRH - HKG (Y) LX - 260,06 EUR
ZRH-FRA-HKG (Y) LH - 281,33 EUR
NRT-ORD (Y) NH - 73,43 EUR
MNL-BKK-SIN (J) (TG) - 31,40 Euros
BKK-MNL (TG) (Y)- 84,76 Euros
MNL-SIN (SQ) (J) - 30,46 Euros
---2016----
HKG-FRA-BUD (LH) C - 114.24 Euros (all cost; one-way; as of 2016-Mar)
BKK-NRT (TG) J - 131.79 Euros
MIA-VIE-FRA (OS) C - 458.76 Euro*
* date change with same airline and route = 20 eur/pp
change route = 40 eur/pp (cancel and rebook)
same date but change to other airline = 40 eur/pp (cancel and rebook)
ARN-FRA-LAX (LH) C/F - 296.26 Euro (OW 276.26 YQ + 20 fee per person; booked in 2015)
YYC-DEN (UA) Y 101 euros with 20 booking fee
LIS-IST-GYD (TK) (J) 22k + 160€ taxes one way [of these YR=98€] [taxes were the same for LH+TP]
MNL-ADD-MXP (ET) (Y) - 11,47€
MUC-CDG(LH)-TPE(BR) (J) - 210,05 Euro
MUC-LHR(LH)-TPE(BR) (J) - 249,80 Euro
MUC-HKG(LH)-TPE(BR) (J) - 334,08 Euro
MUC-IST(TK)-TPE(BR) (J) - 162,26 Euro
KIX-SIN-DPS J (SQ) - 95,23 Euro
NRT-SIN-DPS J (NH,SQ) - 93,45 Euro
YYZ-FRA-JNB Y (AC, SA) - 208,85 Euro
YYZ-FRA-JNB J (LH, SA) - 583,31 Euro
YUL-LAX-AKL J (AC, NZ) - 105,27 Euro
ICN-SIN-DPS Y (SQ) - 175,89 Euro
ICN-SIN-DPS J (SQ) - 200,08 Euro
YYZ-NRT Y (AC) - 57,21 Euros
PEK-YVR Y (AC) - 164,84 Euros
PEK-NRT-YVR Y, J (NH) - 181,26 Euros
DEL-YYZ - Y (AC) - 386,76 Euros
BNE-YVR - Y (AC) - 75,61 Euros
LCA-VIE-BKK-VIE-LCA J (OS) €580
YYZ-PVG - Y (AC) 182,83 Euros
YYZ-ORD-PVG - Y (UA) - 76,54 Euros
YVR-SFO-ICN - Y (UA) - 139,96 Euros
YVR-ICN - Y (AC) - 120,09 Euros
PVG-YYZ - Y (AC) 175,49 Euros
PVG-ORD-YYZ - Y (UA) - 51,45 Euros
CDG-MUC-HND - J (LH,NH) - 116,62 Euros
CDG-HND - J (NH) - 115,43 Euros
CMN-FRA-CDG - J (LH) - 189,00 Euros
ATH-FRA-RAK - Y (LH) - 161,16 Euros
ATH-FRA-RAK - J (LH) - 167,16 Euros
CDG-TPE-HKG - Y (BR) - 133,09 Euros
TPE-ICN - Y (OZ) - 46,00 Euros
YUL-ZRH-GVA - Y (LX) - 269,34 Euros
CDG-FRA-HND - J (LH,NH) - 160,65 Euros
CDG-MUC-HND - J (LH,NH) - 157,90 Euros
YUL-MUC-BKK - Y (LH,TG) - 344,40 Euros
YUL-IST-BKK - Y, J (TK) - 280,30 Euros
ADD-LAX - Y (ET) - 248,87 Euros
ADD-LHR-LAX - Y (ET, UA) - 169,36 Euros
ADD-IST-LAX - J (TK) - 291,38 Euros
TPE-IST-CDG - J (TK) - 218,91 Euros
TPE-SIN-CDG - Y (SQ) - 273,08 Euros
ICN-TPE-VIE - J (OZ,BR) - 52,94 Euros(total cost,flights in April 2017)
FRA-CPH - Y (LH) - 97,09€
YYZ-LGA//JFK-JNB (Y) (AC,SA) - 288,62 Euros
YYZ-LGA//JFK-JNB (J) (AC,SA) - 332,00 Euros
YYZ-ADD-JNB (Y) (ET) - 302,79 Euros
YYZ-LHR-JNB (Y) (AC,SA) - 200,36 Euros
YYZ-LHR-JNB (J) (AC,SA) - 273,58 Euros
NRT-PEK-ADD (Y,J) (NH,ET) - 156,96 Euros
NRT-PVG-ADD (Y) (NH, ET) - 156,96 Euros
YYZ-LIM (Y) (AC) - 141,99 Euros
YYZ-SAL-LIM , Y (AV) - 72,03 Euros
YYZ-TPE-HKG (Y,J) (BR) - 78,89 Euros
YYZ-ORD-HKG (Y) (UA) - 99,61 Euros
YYZ-EWR-HKG (Y) (UA)- 99,61 Euros
ORD-CDG (Y) (UA) - 25,27 Euros
ORD-FRA-CDG (LH) - 373,00 Euros
GVA-FRA-LAX and return JFK-GVA (LH, LX) - 487,96 Euros
----------------2017------------------
GRU-FRA-TLL (F,J) (LH) - 103,60 Euros
YYZ-SFO (J) (AC) - 64,55 Euros
YVR-HKG (Y) (AC) - 83,46 Euros
HKG-ICN-OKA (Y) (OZ) - 54,47 Euros
CPH-PVG-AKL (J) (SK/NZ) - ~200€
TXL-FRA-BKK-FRA-TXL (J) (LH/TG/TG/LH) - 252 Euros
SIN-HND (J) (SQ) - 42,88 Euros
ZRH-BKK-MEL (J) (TG) - €49.22
GVA-ZRH-YUL (J,Y) (LX) - 256,44€
HKG-ICN (Y) (OZ) - €25.54
SIN-CPH (Y) (SQ) - 103,31€
SIN-LHR-CPH (Y) (SQ,SK) - 103,31€
FRA-CAI-SSH (C) (MS) - 177 EUR
FRA-IST-SSH (C) (TK) - 197 EUR
YYZ-DUB (J) (AC) - EUR68.11 (EUR48.11+EUR20 fee)
HKG-IST-GOT (J) (TK) - EUR110.71 (EUR90.71 + EUR20 fee; ticketed in Aug 2017; one-way)
SFO-TUS (Y) (UA) - EUR32,11 (EUR12,11 + EUR20 fee. Ticketed in Sep 2017; one way)
TUS-SFO (Y) (UA) - EUR31,85 (EUR11,85 + EUR20 fee. Ticketed in Sep 2017; one way)
TXL-IST-SIN/ BKK-ZUR-TXL (J) (TK/SQ/TG/LX) €231.74 + €20 fee
EWR-PDX (Y) (UA) - EURO 31.87
SIN-BKK-CDG (J) TG - 77,08 €
SIN-CDG (Y) SQ - 41,45€
SIN-FRA-CDG (Y) LH - 252,39€
SIN-IST (J) SQ - 41,53€
SIN-IST (J) TK - 176,89€
YUL-ZRH (J) - 360,72€
----------------2018------------------
BKK-ARN-TLL (J) TG,SK - 92€ (flights in 2019) online booking
BLZ-ADD-GRU (J) ET - 29.54€ online
GRU-ZHR-LCY (J) LX- 30£ online
YUL-LYS-VIE / VIE-GVA-YUL (J); 197€ online (AC/OS)
HKG-IST-HEL (Y one-way on TK; flights in 2019) - 40,000miles plus EUR81.33, online booking (post #1635)
SIN-SFO (J) SQ - €43.6 online booking
----------------2019------------------
CPH-LIS-GIG (J) TP (€46.5) online
BKK-PVG (J) TG - 64.67€ online
LAX-ARN-HEL (J) SK - €12.50 online
CPH-LIS (Y) TP - (€36,70) online
LAX-HND-LHR (F) NH - (€151) online (flight in Apr2020)
HKG-TPE (J) BR (€53.28) online (redemption in Aug 2019)
EZE-GRU (J) ET 61.60€ online
EZE-GRU (J) TK 61.60€ online
VIE-BKK-TPE-SFO (J) BR - 240.00€ (YQ) + 60.99€ (Taxes etc.) online (flight in summer 2020)
LAX-HND-LHR (F) NH - 135.82€ (YQ) + 15.97€ (Taxes etc.) online (flight in fall 2020)
LHR-HND-LAX (F) NH Round-Trip + 569.23€ online pre-devaluation
AC CDG-YYZ-YYJ Euro 98.85 (Eco, 35k miles, oneway, booked Oct 2021, inlcudes Euro 36.- YQ)
SQ+TK REP-SIN-IST-NCE Euro 98.46 (Eco, 60k miles, oneway, booked Feb 2022 - inlcudes Euro 61.31 YR)
SQ+TK REP-SIN-IST-NCE Euro 102.18 (Eco, 60k miles, oneway, booked March 2022 - includes Euro 63.36 YR plus another 0.44 YR)
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Old May 21, 2023, 10:11 am
  #2731  
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Helsinki, Finland
Programs: BA Gold (OWE), Bonvoy Gold, HH Diamond, PriorityPass, AX Plat
Posts: 526
Seeing availability on TK to several destinations flying HEL-IST-XXX, but after choosing flights and adding the names of the travelers I get the message "We are unable to confirm the fare for the flights you have selected. Please choose a different fare or flights and resubmit your request. (15012 - 1009)". This happens to all the different destinations where Aegean website first shows availability – extremely frustrating.

Does anybody know if it's phantom availability or if I should call A3's call center?
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Old May 21, 2023, 11:16 am
  #2732  
 
Join Date: Apr 2019
Location: London
Posts: 192
Originally Posted by vulle
Seeing availability on TK to several destinations flying HEL-IST-XXX, but after choosing flights and adding the names of the travelers I get the message "We are unable to confirm the fare for the flights you have selected. Please choose a different fare or flights and resubmit your request. (15012 - 1009)". This happens to all the different destinations where Aegean website first shows availability – extremely frustrating.

Does anybody know if it's phantom availability or if I should call A3's call center?
Phantom availability but give them a call just in case.
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Old May 21, 2023, 12:56 pm
  #2733  
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 20
I'm trying to wrap my head round A3 availability. Searching for VIE-ATH-VIE in October. VIE-ATH has availability on 14 days, ATH-VIE only on a single day, how does this make sense?
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Old May 22, 2023, 6:05 am
  #2734  
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Helsinki, Finland
Programs: BA Gold (OWE), Bonvoy Gold, HH Diamond, PriorityPass, AX Plat
Posts: 526
Managed to book a Winter trip for three (two adults + one child), HEL-IST-MCT r/t in TK J. 180t miles + 940€. Lots of phantom availability all around, checked tons of dates to MCT, AUH and DXB, and finally found these dates.
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Old May 26, 2023, 11:04 am
  #2735  
 
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: ZRH
Programs: A3 Gold (*A), AF Gold (ST), HH Diamond, IHG Diamond, Marriott Gold
Posts: 33
After lurking through this thread for a while, getting a lot of information on usual suspects for award spaces, I finally managed to book a trip from EU to NZ and Polynesia for two in J. So first of all thanks for this thread and the info that guided me (like not bothering looking for SQ or LX/LH business award space which seems to be pretty rare), and I'll leave below the flights that were available that I did not end up booking, which may still be available for redemption!

What I booked, for two pax :

GVA-TPE (J - 65k A3 miles per pax + 166 EUR)
Feb 25, 2024 : OS GVA-VIE
Feb 25, 2024 : BR VIE-BKK-TPE

TPE-AKL (J - booked via Flying Blue, could not find award availability on *A - 75k FB miles + 93 EUR)
AKL-PPT (12.5k A3 miles + 46EUR) in Y (no award space in C)
PPT-LAX (AF, FB miles)

LAX - GVA (J - 55k A3 miles per pax + 113.5 EUR)
Apr 1, 2024 : LO LAX - WAW
Apr 2, 2024 : LO WAW - GVA

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Now during my search I stumbled upon some sweet redemptions, all in J, that I did not end up booking in case some are interested I'll leave them here, they may still be up for grabs (if it can help someone not look for award space for ages ):

CDG-VIE-TPE Mar 17th - 65k miles (OS and BR)
GVA-FRA-HND-TPE Feb 21st - 90k miles
GVA-VIE-BKK/TPE BR062 - Mar 20th - 65k miles

Last edited by ben434; May 26, 2023 at 11:15 am
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Old May 26, 2023, 12:16 pm
  #2736  
 
Join Date: Jul 2019
Posts: 1,320
Originally Posted by ben434
GVA-FRA-HND-TPE Feb 21st - 90k miles
I'm pretty sure you can also leave the GVA-FRA segment out and simply book the rest of the trip, save yourself 25k miles and a probably a few € in taxes and if you must, travel to Frankfurt by other means. 25k for such a short distance is too much.
But anyway, good call on LOT ex-USA, their "fuel surcharges" are among the lowest you can find and they actually do offer award tickets (as opposed to the extremely rare availability of United).
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Old May 26, 2023, 12:23 pm
  #2737  
 
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: ZRH
Programs: A3 Gold (*A), AF Gold (ST), HH Diamond, IHG Diamond, Marriott Gold
Posts: 33
Originally Posted by giorginho
I'm pretty sure you can also leave the GVA-FRA segment out and simply book the rest of the trip, save yourself 25k miles and a probably a few € in taxes and if you must, travel to Frankfurt by other means. 25k for such a short distance is too much.
Indeed, good point, but interestingly enough I could not find it without the FRA leg... same as I could not get the LAX-WAW from the trip I booked in J without including the leg to GVA. I would actually have preferred to get to ZRH instead of GVA, even if paying WAW-GVA separately... Not sure if this is common or if was just too tired after hours of looking this trip up and was not careful enough
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Old May 26, 2023, 2:08 pm
  #2738  
 
Join Date: Jul 2019
Posts: 1,320
Oh wow, you're right. Those married segments are killing the game, usually the other way around (both individual segments being available but the combined route isn't) but now there's availability for the 3-segment trip and not for the two of them? Wow!
Anyway, just 1 day later there's availability from FRA via AMS, it saves the 25k and over 200€ and if Zurich is indeed a good option for you, you can fly from there for even less taxes (again via AMS, which seems to be the best option, or even via MXP!)

Same with VIE on the 22nd.

Last edited by giorginho; May 26, 2023 at 2:17 pm
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Old Jun 3, 2023, 10:20 am
  #2739  
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Programs: BA Gold, A3 Gold
Posts: 163
United is bookable again online.

Just snagged IAD-FRA J for 55k + 5€ in February 24
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Old Jun 8, 2023, 4:44 am
  #2740  
 
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: HAM
Programs: BA Gold, A3*G, LH FTL, IHG Diamond
Posts: 298
Booked a BKK - SIN flight in J on SQ oneway for 32.5k and around 22 €.
Interestingly, A3 tool offered many more choices for that route (including some itineries with connection) compared to LH M&M (which only showed a few TG flights to be available).
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Old Jun 10, 2023, 10:58 am
  #2741  
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 24
I got 110 k miles in 2019 for RT award ticket between Far East and Europe , then the COVID came. It took 130 K for the same itinerary now.
However, the good thing for A3 mileage plan is that we can book award ticket 365 days before departure date......
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Old Jun 13, 2023, 8:51 am
  #2742  
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: PAS, Paros Greece
Programs: A3 *G
Posts: 1,372
[QUOTE=SirToby;35313774]Booked a BKK - SIN flight in J on SQ oneway for 32.5k and around 22 €.
Interestingly, A3 tool offered many more choices for that route (including some itineries with connection) compared to LH M&M (which only showed a few TG flights to be available).[/QUOTE
Yeah inter-SE Asia availability is still a sweet-spot. I did KUL-SIN-CGK, DPS-SIN-BKK and BKK-TPE earlier in the year, the first two with SQ and the third with BR. Lots of SQ availability in both Y anc C and LOW taxes (around 18 to 22 Euro for the two-leg flights I took in Y). Plenty of TG availability too but the taxes are higher. BR taxes were reasonable (50 to 100 depending on route). The most "interesting" flights I saw were BKK-HKG-TPE on ET and BR.
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Old Jun 28, 2023, 7:00 am
  #2743  
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Cyprus
Programs: LH SEN, A3*G, TK*G E+, ALL/Accor Plat
Posts: 644
Today, I tried to book LCA to BKK return in business class using M&B mileage. The online system showed BKK as an unavailable destination. When then checking with an Aegean agent, I was told that there was no availability whatsoever in I class during November through mid-December. In contrast, Miles and More offers their members business availability every single day throughout this period. Why is Aegean unable to access I class inventory for its M&B members?
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Old Jun 29, 2023, 1:17 am
  #2744  
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Moon
Programs: BAEC Gold, Hilton D
Posts: 30
Originally Posted by johnirvine
Today, I tried to book LCA to BKK return in business class using M&B mileage. The online system showed BKK as an unavailable destination. When then checking with an Aegean agent, I was told that there was no availability whatsoever in I class during November through mid-December. In contrast, Miles and More offers their members business availability every single day throughout this period. Why is Aegean unable to access I class inventory for its M&B members?
Most LH flights in I class can only booked using M&M miles and can not be seen by partners.
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Old Jun 29, 2023, 4:17 am
  #2745  
 
Join Date: Jul 2019
Posts: 1,320
Got a bit curious about BKK and decided to fool around with the award engine a bit. Got one interesting thing out of it. Didn't try to actually book it, but it did show me a mixed cabin ticket in I and O, with the long haul in O, where the price in miles is actually just the price of O and not the sum of both I for the short haul and O for the long haul legs, which is normally the case with M&B awards.

Anyway, for October and November switching departure to, for example, IST, there's "some" I availability with TK and TG via a couple of waypoints (with either airline serving the long haul segment).
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