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Old Mar 2, 16, 12:16 pm
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No YQ airlines/routes/countries

NZ, CM, AV, O6, NH, SQ, ET

UA:

All flights except from U.S to: ICN

AC:

Within North America

TPAC flights originated from Canada to:
Japan(NRT,HND,KIX), Australia(SYD,BNE)

For TPAC arriving to Canada:
YQ-free countries/cities (see below)
ex-Australia flights (SYD, BNE)

All TATL flights

List of YQ-free cities/countries:

Hong Kong (depart only)
Brazil (depart only)
Philippines (depart only)
Thailand (depart only)
South Korea (depart only)

For Japan:
Departing flights base on J class direct fights from NRT
Example: NRT-ZRH on LX, NRT-FRA on LH

No YQ: UA, AC, AI, NZ, ET, LO, ZH

Less then 20 Euros YQ: LH, SK, CA, OZ, BR, SQ, LX, TK

Greater than 20 Euros YQ: TG (94 Euros)

NH has less than 20 Euros YQ for most of it's destination

Arriving flights base on J class direct fights to NRT
Example: ZRH- NRT on LX, FRA-NRT on LH

No YQ: UA, AC, TG, NZ, OZ

Less than 20 Euros YQ: BR (14 Euros)

20 - 100 Euros YQ: SQ (20 Euros SIN-NRT, 26 Euros LAX-NRT), ET(95 Euros), CA (41 Euros), ZH (40 Euros)

Greater than 100 Euros: LH (246 Euros), AI (185 Euros), LO (177 Euros), SK (135 Euros), LX(262 Euros), TK (130 Euros)

Again, NH has less than 20 Euros YQ for flights arriving to NRT.


YQ + Fee for award flights, feel free to add more on the list (at the end of it) if you have made a recent redemption.

TK SFO-IST-TLV 237,90 Euro
LH SFO-FRA-TLV 376,76 Euro
UA&LH SFO-FRA(UA)-TLV(LH) 104,77 Euro
SIN-FRA (SQ) Y - 181,75 Euro
SIN-DEL(AI)-FRA(LH) J - 257,15 Euro
HKG-PEK-FRA (CA) J - 149,72 Euro
TPE-IST-FRA (TK) Y - 149,75 Euro
TPE-PEK-FRA (CA) J - 149,43 Euro
YYZ-SFO(AC)-TPE (UA) Y - 159,28 Euro
YYZ-PVG(AC)-TPE (BR) Y - 191,24 Euro
YYZ-PVG(AC)-TPE (BR) J - 227,41 Euro
FRA-YUL (AC) Y - 104,00 Euro
FRA-LHR(LH)-YUL (AC) Y - 182,00 Euro
FRA-YYZ-YUL (AC) Y - 142,99 Euro
FRA-LHR(LH)-YUL(AC) J - 187,00 Euro
BKK-HND (TG) Y - 111 Euros
CDG-PEK (CA) Y- 207,88 EUROS
CDG-PEK (CA) J - 298,44 EUROS
CDG-FRA-PEK (LH) Y - 209,13 EUROS
CDG-ICN-PEK (OZ) Y - 264,52 EUROS
CDG-ICN-PEK (OZ) J - 305,04 EUROS
CDG-TPE (BR) Y - 164,31 EUROS
CDG-TPE (BR) J - 204,90 EUROS
CDG-PVG-TPE (CA) Y - 189,99 EUROS
CDG-ICN(OZ)-TPE(TG) - 301,70 EUROS
FRA-MUC-YUL J (LH) - 355,90 Euros
FRA-CDG(LH)-YUL(AC) J - 170.00 Euros
AC Y: 188,37 Euro YYZ-PEK
AC J: 238,77 Euro YYZ-PEK
UA Y: 79,74 Euro YYZ-ORD-PEK
ATH-CAI-AUH (MS) Y - 148,07 EUROS
AKL-SIN (NZ) Y - 41,03 Euros
ORD-NRT (NH) Y,J,C - 44,17 Euros
ORD-NRT (UA) Y,J,C - 41,42 Euros
JFK - SIN- MEL (SQ) Y -789,00 Euros
ZRH - HKG (Y) LX - 260,06 EUR
ZRH-FRA-HKG (Y) LH - 281,33 EUR
NRT-ORD (Y) NH - 73,43 EUR
MNL-BKK-SIN (J) (TG) - 31,40 Euros
BKK-MNL (TG) (Y)- 84,76 Euros
MNL-SIN (SQ) (J) - 30,46 Euros
---2016----
HKG-FRA-BUD (LH) C - 114.24 Euros (all cost; one-way; as of 2016-Mar)
BKK-NRT (TG) J - 131.79 Euros
MIA-VIE-FRA (OS) C - 458.76 Euro*
* date change with same airline and route = 20 eur/pp
change route = 40 eur/pp (cancel and rebook)
same date but change to other airline = 40 eur/pp (cancel and rebook)
ARN-FRA-LAX (LH) C/F - 296.26 Euro (OW 276.26 YQ + 20 fee per person; booked in 2015)
YYC-DEN (UA) Y 101 euros with 20 booking fee
LIS-IST-GYD (TK) (J) 22k + 160 taxes one way [of these YR=98] [taxes were the same for LH+TP]
MNL-ADD-MXP (ET) (Y) - 11,47
MUC-CDG(LH)-TPE(BR) (J) - 210,05 Euro
MUC-LHR(LH)-TPE(BR) (J) - 249,80 Euro
MUC-HKG(LH)-TPE(BR) (J) - 334,08 Euro
MUC-IST(TK)-TPE(BR) (J) - 162,26 Euro
KIX-SIN-DPS J (SQ) - 95,23 Euro
NRT-SIN-DPS J (NH,SQ) - 93,45 Euro
YYZ-FRA-JNB Y (AC, SA) - 208,85 Euro
YYZ-FRA-JNB J (LH, SA) - 583,31 Euro
YUL-LAX-AKL J (AC, NZ) - 105,27 Euro
ICN-SIN-DPS Y (SQ) - 175,89 Euro
ICN-SIN-DPS J (SQ) - 200,08 Euro
YYZ-NRT Y (AC) - 57,21 Euros
PEK-YVR Y (AC) - 164,84 Euros
PEK-NRT-YVR Y, J (NH) - 181,26 Euros
DEL-YYZ - Y (AC) - 386,76 Euros
BNE-YVR - Y (AC) - 75,61 Euros
LCA-VIE-BKK-VIE-LCA J (OS) 580
YYZ-PVG - Y (AC) 182,83 Euros
YYZ-ORD-PVG - Y (UA) - 76,54 Euros
YVR-SFO-ICN - Y (UA) - 139,96 Euros
YVR-ICN - Y (AC) - 120,09 Euros
PVG-YYZ - Y (AC) 175,49 Euros
PVG-ORD-YYZ - Y (UA) - 51,45 Euros
CDG-MUC-HND - J (LH,NH) - 116,62 Euros
CDG-HND - J (NH) - 115,43 Euros
CMN-FRA-CDG - J (LH) - 189,00 Euros
ATH-FRA-RAK - Y (LH) - 161,16 Euros
ATH-FRA-RAK - J (LH) - 167,16 Euros
CDG-TPE-HKG - Y (BR) - 133,09 Euros
TPE-ICN - Y (OZ) - 46,00 Euros
YUL-ZRH-GVA - Y (LX) - 269,34 Euros
CDG-FRA-HND - J (LH,NH) - 160,65 Euros
CDG-MUC-HND - J (LH,NH) - 157,90 Euros
YUL-MUC-BKK - Y (LH,TG) - 344,40 Euros
YUL-IST-BKK - Y, J (TK) - 280,30 Euros
ADD-LAX - Y (ET) - 248,87 Euros
ADD-LHR-LAX - Y (ET, UA) - 169,36 Euros
ADD-IST-LAX - J (TK) - 291,38 Euros
TPE-IST-CDG - J (TK) - 218,91 Euros
TPE-SIN-CDG - Y (SQ) - 273,08 Euros
ICN-TPE-VIE - J (OZ,BR) - 52,94 Euros(total cost,flights in April 2017)
FRA-CPH - Y (LH) - 97,09
YYZ-LGA//JFK-JNB (Y) (AC,SA) - 288,62 Euros
YYZ-LGA//JFK-JNB (J) (AC,SA) - 332,00 Euros
YYZ-ADD-JNB (Y) (ET) - 302,79 Euros
YYZ-LHR-JNB (Y) (AC,SA) - 200,36 Euros
YYZ-LHR-JNB (J) (AC,SA) - 273,58 Euros
NRT-PEK-ADD (Y,J) (NH,ET) - 156,96 Euros
NRT-PVG-ADD (Y) (NH, ET) - 156,96 Euros
YYZ-LIM (Y) (AC) - 141,99 Euros
YYZ-SAL-LIM , Y (AV) - 72,03 Euros
YYZ-TPE-HKG (Y,J) (BR) - 78,89 Euros
YYZ-ORD-HKG (Y) (UA) - 99,61 Euros
YYZ-EWR-HKG (Y) (UA)- 99,61 Euros
ORD-CDG (Y) (UA) - 25,27 Euros
ORD-FRA-CDG (LH) - 373,00 Euros
GVA-FRA-LAX and return JFK-GVA (LH, LX) - 487,96 Euros
----------------2017------------------
GRU-FRA-TLL (F,J) (LH) - 103,60 Euros
YYZ-SFO (J) (AC) - 64,55 Euros
YVR-HKG (Y) (AC) - 83,46 Euros
HKG-ICN-OKA (Y) (OZ) - 54,47 Euros
CPH-PVG-AKL (J) (SK/NZ) - ~200
TXL-FRA-BKK-FRA-TXL (J) (LH/TG/TG/LH) - 252 Euros
SIN-HND (J) (SQ) - 42,88 Euros
ZRH-BKK-MEL (J) (TG) - 49.22
GVA-ZRH-YUL (J,Y) (LX) - 256,44
HKG-ICN (Y) (OZ) - 25.54
SIN-CPH (Y) (SQ) - 103,31
SIN-LHR-CPH (Y) (SQ,SK) - 103,31
FRA-CAI-SSH (C) (MS) - 177 EUR
FRA-IST-SSH (C) (TK) - 197 EUR
YYZ-DUB (J) (AC) - EUR68.11 (EUR48.11+EUR20 fee)
HKG-IST-GOT (J) (TK) - EUR110.71 (EUR90.71 + EUR20 fee; ticketed in Aug 2017; one-way)
SFO-TUS (Y) (UA) - EUR32,11 (EUR12,11 + EUR20 fee. Ticketed in Sep 2017; one way)
TUS-SFO (Y) (UA) - EUR31,85 (EUR11,85 + EUR20 fee. Ticketed in Sep 2017; one way)
TXL-IST-SIN/ BKK-ZUR-TXL (J) (TK/SQ/TG/LX) 231.74 + 20 fee
EWR-PDX (Y) (UA) - EURO 31.87
SIN-BKK-CDG (J) TG - 77,08
SIN-CDG (Y) SQ - 41,45
SIN-FRA-CDG (Y) LH - 252,39
SIN-IST (J) SQ - 41,53
SIN-IST (J) TK - 176,89
YUL-ZRH (J) - 360,72
----------------2018------------------
BKK-ARN-TLL (J) TG,SK - 92 (flights in 2019) online booking
BLZ-ADD-GRU (J) ET - 29.54 online
GRU-ZHR-LCY (J) LX- 30 online
YUL-LYS-VIE / VIE-GVA-YUL (J); 197 online (AC/OS)
HKG-IST-HEL (Y one-way on TK; flights in 2019) - 40,000miles plus EUR81.33, online booking (post #1635)
SIN-SFO (J) SQ - 43.6 online booking
----------------2019------------------
CPH-LIS-GIG (J) TP (46.5) online
BKK-PVG (J) TG - 64.67 online
LAX-ARN-HEL (J) SK - 12.50 online
CPH-LIS (Y) TP - (36,70) online
LAX-HND-LHR (F) NH - (151) online (flight in Apr2020)
HKG-TPE (J) BR (53.28) online (redemption in Aug 2019)
EZE-GRU (J) ET 61.60 online
EZE-GRU (J) TK 61.60 online
VIE-BKK-TPE-SFO (J) BR - 240.00 (YQ) + 60.99 (Taxes etc.) online (flight in summer 2020)
LAX-HND-LHR (F) NH - 135.82 (YQ) + 15.97 (Taxes etc.) online (flight in fall 2020)
LHR-HND-LAX (F) NH Round-Trip + 569.23 online pre-devaluation
AC CDG-YYZ-YYJ Euro 98.85 (Eco, 35k miles, oneway, booked Oct 2021, inlcudes Euro 36.- YQ)
SQ+TK REP-SIN-IST-NCE Euro 98.46 (Eco, 60k miles, oneway, booked Feb 2022 - inlcudes Euro 61.31 YR)
SQ+TK REP-SIN-IST-NCE Euro 102.18 (Eco, 60k miles, oneway, booked March 2022 - includes Euro 63.36 YR plus another 0.44 YR)
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Please report your Star Alliance award redemption experiences

Old Feb 27, 23, 4:33 am
  #2701  
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
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Originally Posted by MixalisK.
Has anyone ever book BC with SG? I never find seat available except on a flight from India with A380
I assume you mean Singapore Airlines (SQ).
Rewards aren't often available intercontinentally, but flights within Asia are often available, sometimes more readily than in economy class. And with no fuel charges either! I've just flown two flights booked with M&B awards KUL-SIN-CGK and DPS-SIN-BKK and the total taxes/fees were both less than 20 Euro.
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Old Feb 27, 23, 5:53 am
  #2702  
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Originally Posted by KLouis
Many years ago (b.C. and not BC), telegrams were often charged by the number of words. No such thing, nowadays, for email, whatsapp, viber and, needless to say, posting in FT. I always wonder why people use abbreviations when posting, such as BC, bus., Z and C for business class, just to list a few that all mean the exact same thing. Let's all try, on a voluntary basis, to restrict that, clearly for the sake of older people (like myself). It may take a fraction of a second to type a few more letters, it takes old people often minutes to figure out what the poster means...

PS1 Translation of FT for people of my kind: flyertalk!
PS2 I know this is in vain, but having nothing better to do today (age plus a public holiday) I'm trying my luck!
For the sake of the younger, perhaps 'Post Scriptum' should be spelled out too?

Well, I agree BC for 'Business Class' is slightly odd to me too, but when it comes to airline codes it is pretty established to use the IATA codes. They are also all in the glossary (https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/glossary.php )
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Old Feb 27, 23, 7:17 pm
  #2703  
 
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Originally Posted by intuition
For the sake of the younger, perhaps 'Post Scriptum' should be spelled out too? ...{skip}...
Yep, you're right, but this is sooo established: e.g. (exempli gratia) several songs, including Paul McCartney's!
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Old Apr 20, 23, 6:40 pm
  #2704  
 
Join Date: Nov 2016
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Does anyone else get an error when making certain searches? You enter the criteria in the award engine, but then the page goes blank and the URL says: https://e-ticket.aegeanair.com/[a bunch of gobbeldy-gook and unique session ID]/error

I only realized it was a "localized" error when I went back, changed the dates to many months later and the search resolved. I think it's possible this means there's no award space, but if so, that's a really inelegant way to handle that error. Fwiw, I was searching FRA-LAX for August.
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Old Apr 20, 23, 10:53 pm
  #2705  
 
Join Date: Mar 2019
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Originally Posted by futuramadramallama
Does anyone else get an error when making certain searches? You enter the criteria in the award engine, but then the page goes blank and the URL says: https://e-ticket.aegeanair.com/[[i]a bunch of gobbeldy-gook and unique session ID]/error

I only realized it was a "localized" error when I went back, changed the dates to many months later and the search resolved. I think it's possible this means there's no award space, but if so, that's a really inelegant way to handle that error. Fwiw, I was searching FRA-LAX for August.
It error out when there aren't any awards it can find on the date or any in the few days around it. In short is has nothing to display so it errors out. It is why I use United to get a rough search unless I am looking for one of the special A3 routings.
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Old Apr 21, 23, 12:20 am
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Originally Posted by NextWhiteDeath
It error out when there aren't any awards it can find on the date or any in the few days around it. In short is has nothing to display so it errors out. It is why I use United to get a rough search unless I am looking for one of the special A3 routings.
Ah and what if a person was looking for one of A3's special routings? Presumably still findable on UA, just segment-by-segment instead?
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Old Apr 25, 23, 12:46 pm
  #2707  
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
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Hello A3 forum,

I'd like a sanity check before phoning up A3.
I looked for award space on SQ through the A3 website and I couldn't find any. I looked on award nexus and I saw space available (through AC, thus I'd imagine it's I class). If I call A3 and feed the flight numbers to the agent will I be able to book?
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Old Apr 25, 23, 1:44 pm
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Originally Posted by malmostoso
I looked for award space on SQ through the A3 website and I couldn't find any. I looked on award nexus and I saw space available (through AC, thus I'd imagine it's I class). If I call A3 and feed the flight numbers to the agent will I be able to book?
Try calling, since the website has its quirks when it comes to award availability with partner airlines...
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Old Apr 25, 23, 1:52 pm
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Originally Posted by ariadgr_
Try calling, since the website has its quirks when it comes to award availability with partner airlines...
Tried calling, the agent couldn't see the complete routing but could see the individual segments, but then again couldn't see the inbound flights. So I gave up.

I'll look up some alternative dates and try again tomorrow.
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Old Apr 25, 23, 6:33 pm
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SQ premium long haul flights are only available to a few partners. a3 is NOT one of them
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Old Apr 25, 23, 11:40 pm
  #2711  
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Exactly, award seat availability is not the same across all star members, especially true when it comes to SQ.

If op succeeds in booking some SQ longhaul business class via agent that would be a very interesting thing to hear about.
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Old Apr 25, 23, 11:43 pm
  #2712  
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
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Originally Posted by freed0m
SQ premium long haul flights are only available to a few partners. a3 is NOT one of them
The agent offered AMS-SIN-MEL-AKL on SQ-SQ-NZ in business, so it seems to be possible.
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Old Apr 26, 23, 12:08 am
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Originally Posted by malmostoso
The agent offered AMS-SIN-MEL-AKL on SQ-SQ-NZ in business, so it seems to be possible.
Nice. How many miles did you end up using for this routing? Also it's interesting that you have more than one stop, I recall reading somewhere that this is not within the rules of redemptions through A3.
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Old Apr 26, 23, 12:21 am
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Originally Posted by nikolask
... I recall reading somewhere that this is not within the rules of redemptions through A3.
You have indeed read something like that, just not that ​​​​​​. Two stops are possible, but in that case you pay the miles for one of the segments (usually the last, sometimes the first) as if booked separately, so you effectively book two award tickets together. A single award ticket can include up to one stop, only then does it cost whatever is published on the award chart.

But I too find it interesting, that long-haul on Singapore was bookable by phone, I'd be very interested in reading more about when the flights are to take place, what the exact booking classes and cost in miles are (hope this isn't some misunderstanding, where he actually booked X, X, I, or X, I, I and just said on the phone "it's business class", which would be easy to verify, among other things according to the seat assignment the agent would have given, if actually booked) etc.
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Old Apr 26, 23, 1:31 am
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Originally Posted by nikolask
Nice. How many miles did you end up using for this routing?
I didn't book because the return flights I had found were not available. Searching the same flights on the A3 website didn't return any results in J. So it might very well be that the agent could see them, but ticketing them might have been a different story
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